The Big Oil Brand Judgement!!

[pbethel]

You can bet that when OEM's specify 10K miles before an oil change, they are being conservative as pushing the envelope only increases their risk. I remember when 5K miles was considered normal, now 10K miles is more standard these days with synthetics and additives.

5,000 miles? I've seen members of this forum pushing the ancient "3,000 miles or 3 months" that was the mantra when I started driving over a half century ago.

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[lariat]

5,000 miles? I've seen members of this forum pushing the ancient "3,000 miles or 3 months" that was the mantra when I started driving over a half century ago.

Have you seen the Ford app which adjusts miles before oil service due based on driving conditions? It's their Intelligent Oil monitoring algorithm. This is becoming more widely accepted in all sorts of vehicles, rather than the OG time based method. Imagine when the world is all EV, this all goes away.

 

[Cabose-1]

Backing? Show me the money and I'll show you backing. That's how backing works, not because the tires on my truck are the best ones for it when I bought, it, but because contracts and exchange of money happened.
Not because Goodyear is the best tire for nascar.

 

[Amsoil guy]

Let's see here.......

#1 none of their oil actually meets any API or ACEA(European standard) specification.

#2 no vehicle manufacturer in the world backs them

#3 the price you pay for the junk they sell is ridiculous...... Average price per quart from Amsoil is $15 and sometimes more. Everyone else is lower than that(with the exception of Royal Purple and Lucas) with their Synthetic alone.

#4 those that try to claim that other oils are not superior tend to forget that other manufacturers are backing them.

As a side note, a dealership buying it simply means the dealership is buying it. Not the manufacturer. It would be the same idea if I tried to say the local Ford and Nissan dealer is buying it by the pallet........

Let's see here.......

#1 none of their oil actually meets any API or ACEA(European standard) specification.

#2 no vehicle manufacturer in the world backs them

#3 the price you pay for the junk they sell is ridiculous...... Average price per quart from Amsoil is $15 and sometimes more. Everyone else is lower than that(with the exception of Royal Purple and Lucas) with their Synthetic alone.

#4 those that try to claim that other oils are not superior tend to forget that other manufacturers are backing them.

As a side note, a dealership buying it simply means the dealership is buying it. Not the manufacturer. It would be the same idea if I tried to say the local Ford and Nissan dealer is buying it by the pallet........

You might want to check your facts again. Amsoil does meet the ACEA specs.
Amsoil is API approved which is a pay us and we’ll stamp it money grab.
You can pick Amsoil up for under $10 a quart.
Mercedes will not use a product that doesn’t meet the specs or be warranty approved or even allow it in the shop. The reason they cleared out Torontos warehouse because the other brand they were using did not meet the new specs for Mercedes at the time.

 

[5thranger]

Wow that was some intense conversation just use what you like.

 

[AzScorpion]

Wow that was some intense conversation just use what you like.

This!

Plus it doesn't really matter what engine oil you use because your trannies gonna blow up first. ?

 

[Frenchy]

This!

Plus it doesn't really matter what engine oil you use because your trannies gonna blow up first. ?

Not unless someone decides to blow it first ?

 

[TheSleepyWeasel]

Ford and many other manufacturers do a lot of testing that go way beyond the warranty period to see what's going to be best for the engine. It's not about what the oil can take, but what the engine can take.

So by the same reasoning, Ford is best suited to tell you how long any given tire, wiper blade, or air filter should last.

 

[Frenchy]

So by the same reasoning, Ford is best suited to tell you how long any given tire, wiper blade, or air filter should last.

I take it you've never done any searching through your own owners manual in the maintenance section have you?

 

[Frenchy]

Funny thing here is almost 3000 views and we only have 125 votes. That ratio isn't making sense

 

[Chris M]

Funny thing here is almost 3000 views and we only have 125 votes. That ratio isn't making sense

Sure it does.
Probably most people don't really care about brands, specifically. They look but don't vote, wondering what all the fuss is about.

 

[Swede726]

Prior to my Ranger I drove turbocharged Saabs for the last like 25+ years. The viscosity on every turbo vehicle I have owned has been shredded by 5k and confirmed through blackstone oil analysis.

Compared to my 2.3 Saab Turbo the oil analysis on the 2.3 eco boost has consistently shown the viscosity is shot at less than 5k. Ive tested mobil 1, Motorcraft and Penzoil so far and the viscosity has tested really low on all of them at 5k intervals.

 

[Amsoil guy]

Prior to my Ranger I drove turbocharged Saabs for the last like 25+ years. The viscosity on every turbo vehicle I have owned has been shredded by 5k and confirmed through blackstone oil analysis.

Compared to my 2.3 Saab Turbo the oil analysis on the 2.3 eco boost has consistently shown the viscosity is shot at less than 5k. Ive tested mobil 1, Motorcraft and Penzoil so far and the viscosity has tested really low on all of them at 5k intervals.

Weird. My first oil analysis I did was at 10,000km and no change in viscosity, dirt and wear was normal. Second one I did was at 15,280km. Dirt and wear was still normal, but I did have a little fuel dilution which was the cause of a slight viscosity change . If no fuel dilution the viscosity would have still been fine. I gonna say it’s probably the additive packages and film strength of the lubricants aren’t contaminated with other things. IMO of course. Lol

 

[RedlandRanger]

Prior to my Ranger I drove turbocharged Saabs for the last like 25+ years. The viscosity on every turbo vehicle I have owned has been shredded by 5k and confirmed through blackstone oil analysis.

Compared to my 2.3 Saab Turbo the oil analysis on the 2.3 eco boost has consistently shown the viscosity is shot at less than 5k. Ive tested mobil 1, Motorcraft and Penzoil so far and the viscosity has tested really low on all of them at 5k intervals.

Do you take lots of short trips? That would lead to fuel dilution in the oil since the engine never gets up to temp for long enough to boil off the fuel (or water) in the oil.

That is the only thing I could think of to explain the differences in people's experience.

 

[Swede726]

Here was my last oil report.

Mobil 1 was shredded in viscosity at 4900 miles...

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