I'm Alive But Still Got A Long Way To Go ...Poll

[JACKSMYDOG]

99.98 survival rate

90% of the people that died were above the average life expectancy.

1.5 years into the most dangerous contagious thing ever and we are well below 3% infection rate, no where near the 30% they said would happen in two weeks.

Of the infected ~ 2% of those are fatal.

Each year:

+140 million births
-60 million deaths (Covid 3 million deaths in 2020)
=
+80 million population growth every year

Covid as with most virus, will likely continue to become more contagious and less dangerous with each new wave.

I do not wish it on anyone, and sympathize with those who lost someone, but for most people the worst case scenario is as Dave just suffered.

Yes the sickness can be bad, but not the threat to humanity they are propagating. It's certainly not bad enough to continue the Martial Law they have imposed, and plan to make worse.

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[MountainGoat]

I had Fordpass points to spend and saw the damper at the right price...

I went with a tailgate lock instead. I think it was a good call.

 

[Jmarler]

I got vaccinated and I still vote for the damper. Just because it makes my ranger 10x better.

I don't think getting the shot isn't a such big deal. When I joined the military I got dosed with multiple vaccines that I had no idea what they were for. Didn't have a choice. Plus the anthrax vaccine with over a dozen boosters. Pretty soon they are mandating service members to get covid vaccine. I

My mom died from covid at the beginning. She was in a nursing home and I was visiting for that week. The nursing home was about to go in lockdown and I had to explain to her what happening and that I might not be able to get back in. She got covid about a month later because a nurse was asymptomatic. They didn't put her in a hospital, they quarantined her and gave her the trial treatment meds. She died within 2 weeks. No one was able to go see her and it was difficult to get her on the phone.

6 to 7 months later, my other relatives got covid because somebody was asymptomatic in the household and my father-in-law had it pretty bad and was in icu. He had to continue on oxygen for about 2 to 3 months after he got out. It has also made him anemic and they put him in a study for it. I think he's the same age as Dave.

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

can't wait until i am above life expectancy and they just push my wheelchair out back and let me die because we dont matter anymore.

You're this crusty at sub-80??? Sweet Jebus


ha ha ha ha

 

[Cabose-1]

1. I was in the military and grade school. I have been vaccinated for everything. To include anthrax.
2. The government tracks me through my dna ( military), credit cards, phone, ranger5g forum, my alexas....more than 1 in the house, and my ford ranger apps installed on my truck.
3. Get the vaccine
4. Get the damper. Or don't
5. Will get my shingles vaccine at the va clinic next week.
6. Have a beer.
7. Get black rifle coffee
8. Get my hemroid meds
9. Where was i going with this list
10. Watch a new series on tv
11. I forgot. Any way. Ignore me
Carry on

 

[maxbottomtime]

I dropped the shit out of a family member's f150 tailgate this weekend. It's just as bad as when I visit family that don't have soft close kitchen cabinets. Not sure this means I regret the damper but I laughed at my stupidity.


On topic, claiming vaccines are causing the variant is sort of hilarious. Do you think the unvaccinated that get sick also don't develop antibodies and gain some natural immunity to a strain?

In some ways I get the no mask sentiment after being vaccinated. If enough were jabbed, we'd be in much better shape. Wearing a mask when going into a store is also not a huge inconvenience to me.



Side rant, can we keep 6' distance as the new normal? Vaccinated or mask mandate lifted i still don't need you breathing down my neck. I promise you the physical proximity of being 3' closer to the checkout will not actually let you leave any sooner.

 

[FunInTheSun]

can you back that statement up with some facts?

let me preempt your argumentative links with a rebuttal link of my own.
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https://publichealth.jhu.edu/2021/new-data-on-covid-19-transmission-by-vaccinated-individuals

I agree that facts are difficult to tease out of the horrifying mountain of misinformation and disinformation.
Have a listen to Dr. Richard Fleming in the following interview. He is a medical doctor (M.D.), with a Ph.D. In particle physics, as well as a law degree. He seems well informed and knowledgeable. This is a good interview, and please note, it is from February of 2021.

 

[JesseS]

i had a bigger reaction to my shingles vaccine than i did the covid vax. ugh.

Same here, no reaction at all to Covid shots, shingles shot kicked my ass! go figure. Also military lifer, so have been vaccinated for everything and then some, they got some nasty bugs in them jungles. My kids and 4 grandkids live in IA, refused to get covid vaccination, everyone got it, (at church) all six. Only one of the kids got it bad, both parents were in ICU, almost lost my Daughter. Now they are no longer anti-Vax..... funny how that works.

 

[Tom_C]

i had a bigger reaction to my shingles vaccine than i did the covid vax. ugh.

Me too. 2nd shingles dose was brutal.

 

[Tom_C]

Same here, no reaction at all to Covid shots, shingles shot kicked my ass! go figure. Also military lifer, so have been vaccinated for everything and then some, they got some nasty bugs in them jungles. My kids and 4 grandkids live in IA, refused to get covid vaccination, everyone got it, (at church) all six. Only one of the kids got it bad, both parents were in ICU, almost lost my Daughter. Now they are no longer anti-Vax..... funny how that works.

Just got word that my cousins husband died of covid last night after being in the ICU 3 weeks.

 

[CJBax]

Same here, no reaction at all to Covid shots, shingles shot kicked my ass! go figure. Also military lifer, so have been vaccinated for everything and then some, they got some nasty bugs in them jungles. My kids and 4 grandkids live in IA, refused to get covid vaccination, everyone got it, (at church) all six. Only one of the kids got it bad, both parents were in ICU, almost lost my Daughter. Now they are no longer anti-Vax..... funny how that works.

Military, anthrax vaccine and the what felt like an endless series of boosters are probably the worst side effects from a vaccine I've ever experienced.

Most of my extended family got covid from church, during the lockdown... my uncle nearly died and is now permanently on oxygen/very poor health. Several of my younger relatives also were hospitalized, some very serious. Unfortunately the first one of them to get covid became symptomatic days after his first vaccine dose... I'm sure you can guess what happened next. Yup, several of them started telling everyone that the vaccine gave him covid and not to get vaccinated. Then his entire family and extended family got covid which was eventually linked back to an outbreak at thier church. Most of them have since gotten the vaccine after seeing first hand what it does to folks.

 

[TechnicallyReal]

99.98 survival rate

90% of the people that died were above the average life expectancy.

1.5 years into the most dangerous contagious thing ever and we are well below 3% infection rate, no where near the 30% they said would happen in two weeks.

Of the infected ~ 2% of those are fatal.

Each year:

+140 million births
-60 million deaths (Covid 3 million deaths in 2020)
=
+80 million population growth every year

Covid as with most virus, will likely continue to become more contagious and less dangerous with each new wave.

I do not wish it on anyone, and sympathize with those who lost someone, but for most people the worst case scenario is as Dave just suffered.

Yes the sickness can be bad, but not the threat to humanity they are propagating. It's certainly not bad enough to continue the Martial Law they have imposed, and plan to make worse.

I hear arguments like this one a lot and on the surface it seems effective, but it misses many aspects of this thing that aren't obvious to most people.

While there isn't a crazy mortality rate, those who do get sick and survive still put major pressure on the healthcare system, which effects everyone. When there's no room in the intensive care units are your hospital because of COVID patients, where do you go if you suffer a heart attack, break your neck, get stabbed, or are giving birth? At the height of things, doctors and nurses are run into the ground and people without COVID are failing to get emergent care. It all sounds very dramatic but it's real. Even up here in Canada, our ambulances were being denied entry to hospitals and were shuffling patients around trying to find somewhere they could take them. Tents were being setup in parking lots to help make room. Elective surgeries were cancelled and many doctors stopped offering appointments because they're being called into hospitals to help.

Also worth mentioning is viruses don't always get more contagious and less dangerous. Delta variant is both much more contagious and more dangerous.

 

[D Fresh]

I hear arguments like this one a lot and on the surface it seems effective, but it misses many aspects of this thing that aren't obvious to most people.

While there isn't a crazy mortality rate, those who do get sick and survive still put major pressure on the healthcare system, which effects everyone. When there's no room in the intensive care units are your hospital because of COVID patients, where do you go if you suffer a heart attack, break your neck, get stabbed, or are giving birth? At the height of things, doctors and nurses are run into the ground and people without COVID are failing to get emergent care. It all sounds very dramatic but it's real. Even up here in Canada, our ambulances were being denied entry to hospitals and were shuffling patients around trying to find somewhere they could take them. Tents were being setup in parking lots to help make room. Elective surgeries were cancelled and many doctors stopped offering appointments because they're being called into hospitals to help.

Also worth mentioning is viruses don't always get more contagious and less dangerous. Delta variant is both much more contagious and more dangerous.

Throughout the last year I kept hearing about hospital occupancy numbers.

Funny thing is that they'd always report current levels, without citing normal levels.

"So and so hospital is operating at 105% capacity!"

Sounds scary if you don't know they normally operate at 98% capacity.

Here in the states our for profit medical system makes empty hospital beds a liability.

The problem with this whole mess has been information from the get go. To the powers that be we're ignorant fools to be toyed with. They drop little nuggets of information disguised as "facts" and then completely disregard those "old facts" the next day.

For many of us it's easier to just refuse to play the game.

If you haven't been given, or found, enough information to make a choice, the only logical choice is to wait it out.

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

I hear arguments like this one a lot and on the surface it seems effective, but it misses many aspects of this thing that aren't obvious to most people.

While there isn't a crazy mortality rate, those who do get sick and survive still put major pressure on the healthcare system, which effects everyone. When there's no room in the intensive care units are your hospital because of COVID patients, where do you go if you suffer a heart attack, break your neck, get stabbed, or are giving birth? At the height of things, doctors and nurses are run into the ground and people without COVID are failing to get emergent care. It all sounds very dramatic but it's real. Even up here in Canada, our ambulances were being denied entry to hospitals and were shuffling patients around trying to find somewhere they could take them. Tents were being setup in parking lots to help make room. Elective surgeries were cancelled and many doctors stopped offering appointments because they're being called into hospitals to help.

Also worth mentioning is viruses don't always get more contagious and less dangerous. Delta variant is both much more contagious and more dangerous.

Canadian hospitals have been over-run for decades with diabetics, alcoholics, smokers, and druggies. Ironically all these vices have been made essential services to continue the addictions, while otherwise healthy people are not allowed to go to the gym.

Even with no masks and no lock-downs, Covid wouldn't come close to killing as many as alcohol and fat each year, never mind that after Covid is gone the hospitals will still be as over-run with these problems, and the alcohol killing spree will still be ignored.

Booking months or years in advance for actual needed surgeries, but a whole wing on liver and kidney treatments for alcohol abuse.

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

I hear arguments like this one a lot and on the surface it seems effective, but it misses many aspects of this thing that aren't obvious to most people.

While there isn't a crazy mortality rate, those who do get sick and survive still put major pressure on the healthcare system, which effects everyone. When there's no room in the intensive care units are your hospital because of COVID patients, where do you go if you suffer a heart attack, break your neck, get stabbed, or are giving birth? At the height of things, doctors and nurses are run into the ground and people without COVID are failing to get emergent care. It all sounds very dramatic but it's real. Even up here in Canada, our ambulances were being denied entry to hospitals and were shuffling patients around trying to find somewhere they could take them. Tents were being setup in parking lots to help make room. Elective surgeries were cancelled and many doctors stopped offering appointments because they're being called into hospitals to help.

Also worth mentioning is viruses don't always get more contagious and less dangerous. Delta variant is both much more contagious and more dangerous.

"And more dangerous" source?

Everything I read says 4th wave/Delta is lower hospitalization and lower fatality.

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