Ford Officially Releases Sync 3 v3.4 Build 20282

[txquailguy]

It may not make a difference, but instructions specify exFAT formatting.

You have to format the usb drive with the exFAT file system or it probably won't work....

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[ryyck]

Ex-fat was designed to provide more space on a USB drive. Apparently the Ranger uses the same concept. The file systems should be the same for integration. If you have problems...make everything the same.

 

[Racket]

Sorry, relied upon my decades and degrees of IT work. Haven't used EXFAT since way back - and my install went fine.

I also gave up using Windows XP a long time ago, and I liked it back then too.

 

[VAMike]

Sorry, relied upon my decades and degrees of IT work. Haven't used EXFAT since way back - and my install went fine.

I also gave up using Windows XP a long time ago, and I liked it back then too.

You probably didn't use exfat way back, since it was only released in 2006 and didn't start seeing widespread use until it was made the default filesystem for SDXC and devices using those started appearing in 2010. It generally makes more sense than NTFS for a removable filesystem.

 

[Racket]

You probably didn't use exfat way back, since it was only released in 2006 and didn't start seeing widespread use until it was made the default filesystem for SDXC and devices using those started appearing in 2010. It generally makes more sense than NTFS for a removable filesystem.

Lol, I've been dealing with computers since learning COBOL and Fortran on TRS-80's in community college in the 80's and selling enterprise storage and backup.

Gotta move with the times.

 

[VAMike]

Lol, I've been dealing with computers since learning COBOL and Fortran on TRS-80's in community college in the 80's and selling enterprise storage and backup.

Gotta move with the times.

I don't even understand what you're trying to say. I think it's that it is important to use NTFS, a filesystem introduced in 1993, rather than exFAT, a filesystem introduced in 2006, in order to keep up with the times?

 

[Racket]

I don't even understand what you're trying to say. I think it's that it is important to use NTFS, a filesystem introduced in 1993, rather than exFAT, a filesystem introduced in 2006, in order to keep up with the times?

I didn't realize you agreeing with me. Others were saying EXFAT was the 'correct' format. My response was that my experience proved it wasn't.

 

[VAMike]

I didn't realize you agreeing with me. Others were saying EXFAT was the 'correct' format. My response was that my experience proved it wasn't.

exfat is the correct format; you happened to get lucky and ntfs worked anyway, but there's no guarantee that ford will keep that working since they specifically say to use exfat.

I think fat actually worked fine also, but I'd still recommend just following the directions.

 

[Racket]

exfat is the correct format; you happened to get lucky and ntfs worked anyway, but there's no guarantee that ford will keep that working since they specifically say to use exfat.

I think fat actually worked fine also, but I'd still recommend just following the directions.

SYNC is built on Microsoft's Windows Automotive, which in turn is based on Windows CE, so NTFS works fine, especially since the thumb drive was much larger than 8 gig.

 

[VAMike]

SYNC is built on Microsoft's Windows Automotive, which in turn is based on Windows CE, so NTFS works fine.

your information is obsolete. sync 1 & 2 (generally considered horrible) were based on Windows. sync 3 (what we have in the ranger) & 4 are based on qnx.

 

[Racket]

your information is obsolete. sync 1 & 2 (generally considered horrible) were based on Windows. sync 3 (what we have in the ranger) & 4 are based on qnx.

The reason I posted times (not that it seemed make a difference this time) is the speed.
https://www.flexense.com/fat32_exfat_ntfs_usb3_performance_comparison.html

 

[VAMike]

The reason I posted times (not that it seemed make a difference this time) is the speed.
https://www.flexense.com/fat32_exfat_ntfs_usb3_performance_comparison.html

So, sometimes ntfs is faster, sometimes exfat is faster? Got it.

 

[Racket]

So, sometimes ntfs is faster, sometimes exfat is faster? Got it.

Apparently. I don't have familiarity with QNX since my experience is with networks and data. It isn't an issue.

https://www.tuxera.com/blog/tuxera-extends-exfat-and-ntfs-support-to-qnx-neutrino-rtos/

 

[VAMike]

Apparently. I don't have familiarity with QNX since my experience is with networks and data. It isn't an issue.

Man, you can do whatever you want, just don't get butthurt when other people point out that the directions say to do something else. I really don't understand what you're still arguing about. Most especially, if you don't know software and OS's, don't keep insisting that it isn't an issue--there are a lot of tears in the vast gulf between "happens to work" and "tested and supported".

Everyone can google "qnx ntfs support" themselves, no need to paste the top link. There isn't any question about whether an ntfs drive can be read, the question is whether it's reliable for the purpose of the firmware update. Given how generally flaky and unreliable that entire process is, I personally want to introduce as few additional variables to it as possible. Ford could have easily said nothing about what filesystem to use for the update, but they didn't do that. Maybe it's because they lack imagination, maybe it's because they didn't bother to test more than one configuration, maybe it's a copy & paste from some australian version with different requirements, or maybe it's because in some cases doing something else blows up. Maybe it depends on what version of windows writes the ntfs, maybe it depends on what features are active in the ntfs volume, maybe it doesn't matter at all. If someone wants to experiment with different configurations out of sheer cussedness that's certainly their right, but most people probably just want to know the most direct route with the highest probability of success.

 

[JoeC]

I truly mean no offense guys, but folks here are just trying to get their damn trucks updated with the rather basic means Ford has given them.
I, also of computer engineering, agree with what you're saying....
But, does it really matter how it can be done, if the factory procedure doesn't seem to work for some folks, and they're just looking for help?
Just sayin', give them a hand if you can.

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