Fuel in oil

[Trustable]

Mine will never have fuel in the oil.

Why? Because I'll never look for it.

I hope you dont, I love the truck but hate this issue, but if you change your own oil you don't have to look for it, you can smell it.

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[Trustable]

Not to be a smart@$$ and know it's a real problem for some ... But I wonder how many will read 100 pages of this and check their oil right after shut down. See the oil on one side of the dipstick looking three sorts of crazy/up to the twist and think they have a major problem.

I say that because I've never hand another engine as picky as this one on when to check it. Either dead cold (thanks to those that pointed that out for the modern 2.3) or per the manual and fully warm and wait 15 minutes. Doing it early/wrong shows some crazy stuff on one side of the stick.

I understand what you are saying. Yeah for sure I have noticed that, seems to be this vehicle likes to get oil all over the dip stick. Just to be sure I check it before, after, 15 mins after, and an hour after. If people have anything like mine, I noticed the smell long before I noticed it significantly rising.

 

[Trustable]

Well, I ended up talking to a Subaru dealer and going for a test drive today. I test drove a Subaru forester wilderness, and I must say it was very nice and I did enjoy it. (36.8k msrp, loaded with every option) As soon as I got back and was talking to the guy something in the back of my head just kept saying don't do it. We ran the numbers and with a 4k down payment for a 3 year lease was around 484 or something after I told him and the manager I'm not paying for this basically off brand ceramic. After really thinking about it I just cant justify paying more for a lease vehicle than my ranger, especially considering how nice the utility of having a truck is. Told the sales guy I have to think about it but I appreciate letting me take it for a test drive and sitting down and pricing it out for me. I took a step back and figured let me try calling the dealer I bought it from that I have had very good luck with their body shop and service department. (This dealer is currently 2 hours away from where I currently live). I ended up talking to the service guy for 10 minutes and he agreed that fuel in oil is not normal in the slightest and can lead to lots of problems down the road. He informed me they have a guy who only does engine work there (teardowns, installs, etc..) He said there was only 2 engines he could not figure out how to fix in the 15+ years he has been there. Issue is, he is backed up to end of March with 7 engines currently that are physically out of vehicles. I set up an appointment for then and continued to discuss it. He told me if its that far above the twist to try not to drive it but there's not much you can do if that's your only vehicle. He also thought it was strange that the other dealership made me pay for oil change even after they could see the problem and smell it.

After talking to him I went down to the local dealership and got my incomplete work order forms just incase. My headrest also happened to come in but apparently only a ford tech can replace them. I figured I could just hand them my old ones and they would give me the new ones. They said its a 30 minute job as well??? I've never taken the headrests out of the rear seats but that seems like a long time. My focus took like 2 seconds per headrest and that was with me struggling to push the release button.

Next, I called up the Ford customer care line and to the best of my ability told them what was going on. I told them the reason for calling was that I wanted everything to be noted so if I had to call again or start the process of lemon law or buyback they can see I am making attempts to get it fixed. The person I talked to was very helpful, nice, and apologetic; completely different than the 3 different roadside assistance ford reps I dealt with Wednesday.

The reason I am even posting all this is because I was a bit of a hot head about this situation. I am a pretty calm person (or like to think I am), and I'd like to own up to it. Looking at what's going on in Ukraine, or how an employee at work was sending out emails yesterday and at the office is now dead today, put it all into perspective. I was a bit irrational writing off Ford/the truck like I did. Life is to short to be that worried and angry about something so trivial in the grand scheme of things. Just thought I'd share, as getting stressed about trivial things is something I struggle with, and I'm sure its not just me.

 

[Langwilliams]

Well, I ended up talking to a Subaru dealer and going for a test drive today. I test drove a Subaru forester wilderness, and I must say it was very nice and I did enjoy it. (36.8k msrp, loaded with every option) As soon as I got back and was talking to the guy something in the back of my head just kept saying don't do it. We ran the numbers and with a 4k down payment for a 3 year lease was around 484 or something after I told him and the manager I'm not paying for this basically off brand ceramic. After really thinking about it I just cant justify paying more for a lease vehicle than my ranger, especially considering how nice the utility of having a truck is. Told the sales guy I have to think about it but I appreciate letting me take it for a test drive and sitting down and pricing it out for me. I took a step back and figured let me try calling the dealer I bought it from that I have had very good luck with their body shop and service department. (This dealer is currently 2 hours away from where I currently live). I ended up talking to the service guy for 10 minutes and he agreed that fuel in oil is not normal in the slightest and can lead to lots of problems down the road. He informed me they have a guy who only does engine work there (teardowns, installs, etc..) He said there was only 2 engines he could not figure out how to fix in the 15+ years he has been there. Issue is, he is backed up to end of March with 7 engines currently that are physically out of vehicles. I set up an appointment for then and continued to discuss it. He told me if its that far above the twist to try not to drive it but there's not much you can do if that's your only vehicle. He also thought it was strange that the other dealership made me pay for oil change even after they could see the problem and smell it.

After talking to him I went down to the local dealership and got my incomplete work order forms just incase. My headrest also happened to come in but apparently only a ford tech can replace them. I figured I could just hand them my old ones and they would give me the new ones. They said its a 30 minute job as well??? I've never taken the headrests out of the rear seats but that seems like a long time. My focus took like 2 seconds per headrest and that was with me struggling to push the release button.

Next, I called up the Ford customer care line and to the best of my ability told them what was going on. I told them the reason for calling was that I wanted everything to be noted so if I had to call again or start the process of lemon law or buyback they can see I am making attempts to get it fixed. The person I talked to was very helpful, nice, and apologetic; completely different than the 3 different roadside assistance ford reps I dealt with Wednesday.

The reason I am even posting all this is because I was a bit of a hot head about this situation. I am a pretty calm person (or like to think I am), and I'd like to own up to it. Looking at what's going on in Ukraine, or how an employee at work was sending out emails yesterday and at the office is now dead today, put it all into perspective. I was a bit irrational writing off Ford/the truck like I did. Life is to short to be that worried and angry about something so trivial in the grand scheme of things. Just thought I'd share, as getting stressed about trivial things is something I struggle with, and I'm sure its not just me.

I hope it works out for you. I have known two guys that were the "go to guy" to get stuff fixed. A friend of the family passed away a few years ago way too early that could fix anything. Ford wanted to hire him to look at cars the last step before going to lemon law land. He got sick before it happened. My cousin's kid is great with engines like his dad is. He works for the school district fixing all the busses an stuff. The local Heavy Duty truck center has him come in at least one evening a week to look at anything they can't figure out. Hopefully you found your guy.

 

[Trustable]

I hope it works out for you. I have known two guys that were the "go to guy" to get stuff fixed. A friend of the family passed away a few years ago way too early that could fix anything. Ford wanted to hire him to look at cars the last step before going to lemon law land. He got sick before it happened. My cousin's kid is great with engines like his dad is. He works for the school district fixing all the busses an stuff. The local Heavy Duty truck center has him come in at least one evening a week to look at anything they can't figure out. Hopefully you found your guy.

Thanks hope so too. If not I hope to at least have a good experience dealing with a buyback or something. Trying not to let it stress me out to much.

 

[WNCblueridge]

Mine will never have fuel in the oil.

Why? Because I'll never look for it.

So u never check the dipstick? Ever? Bet you will look for it when the oil level gets 3" over max fill hole

 

[WNCblueridge]

Well, I ended up talking to a Subaru dealer and going for a test drive today. I test drove a Subaru forester wilderness, and I must say it was very nice and I did enjoy it. (36.8k msrp, loaded with every option) As soon as I got back and was talking to the guy something in the back of my head just kept saying don't do it. We ran the numbers and with a 4k down payment for a 3 year lease was around 484 or something after I told him and the manager I'm not paying for this basically off brand ceramic. After really thinking about it I just cant justify paying more for a lease vehicle than my ranger, especially considering how nice the utility of having a truck is. Told the sales guy I have to think about it but I appreciate letting me take it for a test drive and sitting down and pricing it out for me. I took a step back and figured let me try calling the dealer I bought it from that I have had very good luck with their body shop and service department. (This dealer is currently 2 hours away from where I currently live). I ended up talking to the service guy for 10 minutes and he agreed that fuel in oil is not normal in the slightest and can lead to lots of problems down the road. He informed me they have a guy who only does engine work there (teardowns, installs, etc..) He said there was only 2 engines he could not figure out how to fix in the 15+ years he has been there. Issue is, he is backed up to end of March with 7 engines currently that are physically out of vehicles. I set up an appointment for then and continued to discuss it. He told me if its that far above the twist to try not to drive it but there's not much you can do if that's your only vehicle. He also thought it was strange that the other dealership made me pay for oil change even after they could see the problem and smell it.

After talking to him I went down to the local dealership and got my incomplete work order forms just incase. My headrest also happened to come in but apparently only a ford tech can replace them. I figured I could just hand them my old ones and they would give me the new ones. They said its a 30 minute job as well??? I've never taken the headrests out of the rear seats but that seems like a long time. My focus took like 2 seconds per headrest and that was with me struggling to push the release button.

Next, I called up the Ford customer care line and to the best of my ability told them what was going on. I told them the reason for calling was that I wanted everything to be noted so if I had to call again or start the process of lemon law or buyback they can see I am making attempts to get it fixed. The person I talked to was very helpful, nice, and apologetic; completely different than the 3 different roadside assistance ford reps I dealt with Wednesday.

The reason I am even posting all this is because I was a bit of a hot head about this situation. I am a pretty calm person (or like to think I am), and I'd like to own up to it. Looking at what's going on in Ukraine, or how an employee at work was sending out emails yesterday and at the office is now dead today, put it all into perspective. I was a bit irrational writing off Ford/the truck like I did. Life is to short to be that worried and angry about something so trivial in the grand scheme of things. Just thought I'd share, as getting stressed about trivial things is something I struggle with, and I'm sure its not just me.

Sorry to hear about your friend. The Ukrainian people don't deserve this. Reports of them fighting like hell despite being so overwhelmed. They got my respect and are fighting for a cause bigger than them for freedom against tyranny.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

Well, I ended up talking to a Subaru dealer and going for a test drive today. I test drove a Subaru forester wilderness, and I must say it was very nice and I did enjoy it. (36.8k msrp, loaded with every option) As soon as I got back and was talking to the guy something in the back of my head just kept saying don't do it. We ran the numbers and with a 4k down payment for a 3 year lease was around 484 or something after I told him and the manager I'm not paying for this basically off brand ceramic. After really thinking about it I just cant justify paying more for a lease vehicle than my ranger, especially considering how nice the utility of having a truck is. Told the sales guy I have to think about it but I appreciate letting me take it for a test drive and sitting down and pricing it out for me. I took a step back and figured let me try calling the dealer I bought it from that I have had very good luck with their body shop and service department. (This dealer is currently 2 hours away from where I currently live). I ended up talking to the service guy for 10 minutes and he agreed that fuel in oil is not normal in the slightest and can lead to lots of problems down the road. He informed me they have a guy who only does engine work there (teardowns, installs, etc..) He said there was only 2 engines he could not figure out how to fix in the 15+ years he has been there. Issue is, he is backed up to end of March with 7 engines currently that are physically out of vehicles. I set up an appointment for then and continued to discuss it. He told me if its that far above the twist to try not to drive it but there's not much you can do if that's your only vehicle. He also thought it was strange that the other dealership made me pay for oil change even after they could see the problem and smell it.

After talking to him I went down to the local dealership and got my incomplete work order forms just incase. My headrest also happened to come in but apparently only a ford tech can replace them. I figured I could just hand them my old ones and they would give me the new ones. They said its a 30 minute job as well??? I've never taken the headrests out of the rear seats but that seems like a long time. My focus took like 2 seconds per headrest and that was with me struggling to push the release button.

Next, I called up the Ford customer care line and to the best of my ability told them what was going on. I told them the reason for calling was that I wanted everything to be noted so if I had to call again or start the process of lemon law or buyback they can see I am making attempts to get it fixed. The person I talked to was very helpful, nice, and apologetic; completely different than the 3 different roadside assistance ford reps I dealt with Wednesday.

The reason I am even posting all this is because I was a bit of a hot head about this situation. I am a pretty calm person (or like to think I am), and I'd like to own up to it. Looking at what's going on in Ukraine, or how an employee at work was sending out emails yesterday and at the office is now dead today, put it all into perspective. I was a bit irrational writing off Ford/the truck like I did. Life is to short to be that worried and angry about something so trivial in the grand scheme of things. Just thought I'd share, as getting stressed about trivial things is something I struggle with, and I'm sure its not just me.

FYI, Subaru is having fuel dilution issues also. More so with their turbocharged engines but also their NA’s too. Direct injection syndrome across most manufacturers.

 

[landiscarrier]

Drive your truck. Change the oil every 5k and it will last!

 

[RangerRandy]

So u never check the dipstick? Ever? Bet you will look for it when the oil level gets 3" over max fill hole

I do occasionally but not very often. I generally don't worry about checking the dipstick on a new, low mile vehicle. Especially while its under warranty. I just change the oil every 5000 miles. Last time I looked, a couple months ago, No worries.

 

[RangerRandy]

Drive your truck. Change the oil every 5k and it will last!

Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[Deathrider]

FYI, Subaru is having fuel dilution issues also. More so with their turbocharged engines but also their NA’s too. Direct injection syndrome across most manufacturers.

Im gonna open my mouth and say that this is because its normal with turbo Di engines, i may be banned forever after saying this.

 

[Dgc333]

Im gonna open my mouth and say that this is because its normal with turbo Di engines, i may be banned forever after saying this.

I have had (4) turbo DI powered vehicles (3 with the 2.3 Ecoboost) and have put approximately 160,000 miles on them. None of them had enough fuel dilution to be able to smell it in the oil or cause it to rise on the dip stick.

My Ranger has 5k miles on it since the last oil change and the oil level is exactly in the same place as it was after the oil change.

All engines have some level of blow-by and DI engines some of that blow-by will be fuel but there is a big difference between a small amount of fuel in the oil and having enough that causes the oil level to climb up the dip stick. The folks with it causing the oil level to climb are a small minority and it is in no way a characteristic of the engine.

 

[MotoWojo]

Drive your truck. Change the oil every 5k and it will last!

So, are you saying don't bother checking the oil between 5k mile oil changes? If not, what would you do if you were 1000 miles into an oil change and the level is 3/8in over the twist? Just drive it the remaining 4k and change the oil?

 

[Joeiconic]

Well, I ended up talking to a Subaru dealer and going for a test drive today. I test drove a Subaru forester wilderness,

Subaru’s aren‘t as reliable as they used to be, so do your research. Some models/ years have a significant parasitic battery drain issue.

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