What are you guys towing?

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I think you may be confusing towing capacity and GVWR.
I have been told GVWR means that is now much you can tow not the GCVWR I have a 7000 lb trailer and it is rated GVWR is 5000lb is that not correct to assume 5000 is all it will haul
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I have been told GVWR means that is now much you can tow not the GCVWR I have a 7000 lb trailer and it is rated GVWR is 5000lb is that not correct to assume 5000 is all it will haul
The GVRW is the gross vehicle weight. The vehicle actually weighs less and this number is the vehicle weight + the allowable payload. The towing capacity is how much weight you can tow. I believe the GCVWR is the combined weight of the truck trailer and any payload.
 

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I have been told GVWR means that is now much you can tow not the GCVWR I have a 7000 lb trailer and it is rated GVWR is 5000lb is that not correct to assume 5000 is all it will haul
you were told wrong--only the tongue weight (and passengers/in-truck payload) is part of the GVWR, the trailer itself is not
 

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oops that layout pic is the wrong one

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The Ranger will tow it, just take enough time that you don't have to try and speed. Keep an eye on big trucks and that pressure wave.
I am still going to add a set of air bags to take up a little bounce, cause that worries me no matter what truck I'm driving.
That's a nice trailer, very similar to mine. I have towed mine a few times now to get used to it's handling and Friday me and the wife are taking it to North Alabama for it's maiden camping trip. I will let everyone know how it goes.
It's only 2.5 hrs. to the site, but a good amount of large inclines and curves, some back roads and some interstate. I'm hoping everything goes well.
 


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OK I have misstated my goal. Here it is xl, xlt lariat, 2wd, 4wd. Fx4, s-cab, c-cab ford says all can tow the same amount 7500lb this is not logically possible. As all of these trks have a different GVW. Therefore a xl 2wd s-cab can theoretically tow 9000lb because it doesn't have 4wd and skid plates and 4 doors so maybe even more. I am trying to get an honest real tow rating not a bunch of BS. If you don't mind the fact that you may kill yourself or others don't interject your opinions here. If you want to help please, please do. Almost done with the rant, any engineers, MIT grad's, trailer manufacturers please step on up and help. OK went to a cat scale gassed up did the TFL gas thing ( s-cab, lariat, fx4) and me. Steer axle 2800, drive axle 1900, gross weight 4700. My GVWR on the door is 6050 so that means I can haul 1350lb we aren't talking about towing yet that's for another day.
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OK I have misstated my goal. Here it is xl, xlt lariat, 2wd, 4wd. Fx4, s-cab, c-cab ford says all can tow the same amount 7500lb this is not logically possible. As all of these trks have a different GVW. Therefore a xl 2wd s-cab can theoretically tow 9000lb because it doesn't have 4wd and skid plates and 4 doors so maybe even more. I am trying to get an honest real tow rating not a bunch of BS. If you don't mind the fact that you may kill yourself or others don't interject your opinions here. If you want to help please, please do. Almost done with the rant, any engineers, MIT grad's, trailer manufacturers please step on up and help. OK went to a cat scale gassed up did the TFL gas thing ( s-cab, lariat, fx4) and me. Steer axle 2800, drive axle 1900, gross weight 4700. My GVWR on the door is 6050 so that means I can haul 1350lb we aren't talking about towing yet that's for another day.
I have no idea what you're asking. You started by asking about towing and ended by saying you don't want to know about towing.
 

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I have no idea what you're asking. You started by asking about towing and ended by saying you don't want to know about towing.
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I have no idea what you're asking. You started by asking about towing and ended by saying you don't want to know about towing.
OK I am saying that towing is the next subject as I don't believe any of the these trucks can really tow 7500lb. And you should work on your English comprehension.
 

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I'll be towing my Casita after a suitable break in period.

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I bought a new on in 2001 and sold it 2 years later for a house build...so regretted doing that:facepalm:

I will now tow my baby on a trailer to the twisties:like:

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Eat into payload subtracts from towing. No different than any other truck.

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OK I am saying that towing is the next subject as I don't believe any of the these trucks can really tow 7500lb. And you should work on your English comprehension.
Ditto. You should probably read the manual very carefully before trying to tow anything. Good luck.
 
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OK I have misstated my goal. Here it is xl, xlt lariat, 2wd, 4wd. Fx4, s-cab, c-cab ford says all can tow the same amount 7500lb this is not logically possible. As all of these trks have a different GVW. Therefore a xl 2wd s-cab can theoretically tow 9000lb because it doesn't have 4wd and skid plates and 4 doors so maybe even more. I am trying to get an honest real tow rating not a bunch of BS. If you don't mind the fact that you may kill yourself or others don't interject your opinions here. If you want to help please, please do. Almost done with the rant, any engineers, MIT grad's, trailer manufacturers please step on up and help. OK went to a cat scale gassed up did the TFL gas thing ( s-cab, lariat, fx4) and me. Steer axle 2800, drive axle 1900, gross weight 4700. My GVWR on the door is 6050 so that means I can haul 1350lb we aren't talking about towing yet that's for another day.
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It has been explained very clearly here. Not sure what else you are looking for. I would suggest if you don't know how it works then you probably shouldn't tow.
 

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Eat into payload subtracts from towing. No different than any other truck.

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Actually, the take away from that circled portion is that trailer tongue weight is part of payload.

10% is generally too little tongue weight ...so if you choose to tow a 7500 pound trailer with 900 pounds tongue weight and four hundred pounds of passengers in your Lariat SuperCrew, be prepared for only about 250 pounds of cargo. Even if you agree with the 10% per J2807 your cargo will be only 400 pounds.
To me this means that a realistic trailer for the new Ranger would be about 5000 pounds, which would leave a thousand pounds for people and stuff to max out.

I bought mine for maximum payload (STX SuperCab) and overkill for a trailer under 2500 pounds. Subtracting tongue weight I am then left with 1500 pounds for people and stuff to maximum payload.
Leaves me with a good margin of a thousand pounds of space for toys and gear, of which I would prefer not to use 100%.
 
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With the stunted bed, I struggle to understand what you would could possibly put in it that would tip the scales at 1000#. Are you hauling a concrete slab to your campsite? My trailer is 4200# wet, and I have a weight distributing hitch, so I will make the tongue weight as high as possible then remove some of that with the torsion bars. With my full family, plus all our stuff, I couldn't hope to have 1000# of gear in the truck. Especially since most bulky stuff goes in the trailer.

Please note that this is not a sarcastic asshat reply, I'm genuinely curious what I could put in the bed :)
 

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With the stunted bed, I struggle to understand what you would could possibly put in it that would tip the scales at 1000#. Are you hauling a concrete slab to your campsite? My trailer is 4200# wet, and I have a weight distributing hitch, so I will make the tongue weight as high as possible then remove some of that with the torsion bars. With my full family, plus all our stuff, I couldn't hope to have 1000# of gear in the truck. Especially since most bulky stuff goes in the trailer.

Please note that this is not a sarcastic asshat reply, I'm genuinely curious what I could put in the bed :)
If you filled the bed with gravel it would be well over 2500lb (right before the popping sound).
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