Never Run Extended Oil Change Intervals: Ecoboost Engines

[5thranger]

just take shorter strokes......

Yes, I know that, but the psychological damage has lasting effects. But thank you for the advice.?
By the way do you have a damper?

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[JimJa]

To those here that use their dealer or a "quick lube" place. You want synthetic, but before you tell them that, ask what kind of oil they use or recommend. The reply is usually synthetic. Then I ask a follow up of whether they use pure synthetic or blend. When asked directly, many will say blend. even though they initially replied synthetic. Be sure you ask as you may not be getting the pure synthetic you've asked for.

Some questions for those here using oil analysis which will add some data points everyone's knowledge of when to change their oil.
- How many miles were on your oil when the sample was taken?
- How much oil life is remaining? Usually that has to do with the additive package.
- What brand/weigh of oil do you use?
- How do you drive? Spirited/light/average, stop/go, short/long distance, fully warm your engine., etc.

In the video 200K miles is a lot of miles. More than 99% of us will ever put on our vehicles. We have no idea how those miles were driven but obviously the owner did not make oil changes priority because oil consumption in the manner shown doesn't just happen, it takes time, thousands of miles. Two quarts remaining tells something about the owner and his situation awareness.

 

[SigOris]

Yes, I know that, but the psychological damage has lasting effects. But thank you for the advice.?
By the way do you have a damper?

I happened to have four dampers: two on the tailgate and two on the hood :^)

my LARIAT now IDENTIFIES as a TREMOR right @AzScorpion ? :^)

 

[5thranger]

I happened to have four dampers: two on the tailgate and two on the hood :^)

my LARIAT now IDENTIFIES as a TREMOR right @AzScorpion ? :^)

awesome

 

[scarchild35]

I think 5,000 service intervals is definitely on the safe side. If you are running full synthetic, even more so. Things are definitely different than they were 30 years ago and beyond. I really see no reason why you couldn't go to 7,500 comfortably. I use full synthetic in all of our vehicles and we go between 5,000 and 7,500 miles between services. Last truck made it to 280,000 on the original engine (it still ran great when I sold the old girl) and I credit that to using full synthetic and all premium maintenance products. And I will say that I ran the living piss out of that thing, it was a construction combat machine vehicle for the first 15 years of its life too. I am not hard on the new one, at all. I will open her up on the highway every now and again, I think it's good to do that every so often. But I'll stick with 5,000 to 7,500 mile intervals. I didn't pay too much attention to the "Intelligent?? Oil Life Monitor". When I had my first service the monitor indicated quite a bit of oil life left but I didn't care what that thing says. Oddly, after the first service the monitor is trending to a sooner service than last time and it lines up nicely somewhere between 5k and 7500 miles. But yeah, nothing wrong with a 5k interval. More frequently than that is probably excessive but it definitely won't hurt anything. We all want our neat little engines purring along for a long time now don't we? I sure do. I think these engines are awesome and they need to be loved.

 

[kieefer]

Read a few comments of anyone doing an actual oil analysis test and no one mentioned removing their turbo filters to check for buildup.

I’m skeptical but no doubt 5K oil changes help make an engine last. I’ve personally seen that on my former 97 3.0v6 Ranger that I did 5K synthetic oil changes but, advances in engine design, fuels and oil formulations….well I’m in the crew that waits till 10-20%.

Maybe an oil analysis and turbo filter check would change my mind?

 

[scarchild35]

Read a few comments of anyone doing an actual oil analysis test and no one mentioned removing their turbo filters to check for buildup.

I’m skeptical but no doubt 5K oil changes help make an engine last. I’ve personally seen that on my former 97 3.0v6 Ranger that I did 5K synthetic oil changes but, advances in engine design, fuels and oil formulations….well I’m in the crew that waits till 10-20%.

Maybe an oil analysis and turbo filter check would change my mind?

I didn't know turbos have a filter.

 

[kieefer]

I didn't know turbos have a filter.

Did you watch the video?

 

[Jason B]

I didn't know turbos have a filter.

He is talking about the screens on the oil lines feeding the turbo. In the video, the engine failed due to poor lube and oil cooling to the turbos. Same happen on my brothers 3.5 Eco after almost 275K, and he had oil changes every 5K. So, may not be entirely due to 'extended oil service'.

 

[got3fords]

Sorry about the typo, as for making the effort, I am retired, I like to wrench, I drink beer when I wrench, and my wife leaves me alone when I wrench, so there are a lot of pluses.

I like maniacal better! I always complain when I have to mow the yard. But I have a feeling when I retire it won't be a big deal any more.

 

[Zvedza]

man i love this dude, provin all the people wrong who touted that were wasting money changing the oil earlier than what ford recommends wrong, newer motors dont need it/oil so much better etc etc.

I change everything way before its said to be changed and its nice to have a vid to show others why we do so.

I did my diff fluid change at 10K. I need to do transfer case though. How often should T-case be done?

I do my diffs at 50k, but i first changed them around 30k.
Tcase i change with the trans every 20k. It was pitch black when i changed it the first time, both diffs were pretty clear minus some crud on the bottom i cleaned out.

 

[Zvedza]

He is talking about the screens on the oil lines feeding the turbo. In the video, the engine failed due to poor lube and oil cooling to the turbos. Same happen on my brothers 3.5 Eco after almost 275K, and he had oil changes every 5K. So, may not be entirely due to 'extended oil service'.

makes me wanna check mine too, too bad on the 3.5 its super tight to get to.
Superchargers are way easier to check, can unbolt it in 15minutes to check the rotors and the oil can be sucked up with a little vacuum and replaced super quick.

I think 5,000 service intervals is definitely on the safe side. If you are running full synthetic, even more so. Things are definitely different than they were 30 years ago and beyond. I really see no reason why you couldn't go to 7,500 comfortably. I use full synthetic in all of our vehicles and we go between 5,000 and 7,500 miles between services. Last truck made it to 280,000 on the original engine (it still ran great when I sold the old girl) and I credit that to using full synthetic and all premium maintenance products. And I will say that I ran the living piss out of that thing, it was a construction combat machine vehicle for the first 15 years of its life too. I am not hard on the new one, at all. I will open her up on the highway every now and again, I think it's good to do that every so often. But I'll stick with 5,000 to 7,500 mile intervals. I didn't pay too much attention to the "Intelligent?? Oil Life Monitor". When I had my first service the monitor indicated quite a bit of oil life left but I didn't care what that thing says. Oddly, after the first service the monitor is trending to a sooner service than last time and it lines up nicely somewhere between 5k and 7500 miles. But yeah, nothing wrong with a 5k interval. More frequently than that is probably excessive but it definitely won't hurt anything. We all want our neat little engines purring along for a long time now don't we? I sure do. I think these engines are awesome and they need to be loved.

im in the excessive category, i change oil and filter every 2500miles. My raptor has 50k miles on it and a decent bit has been offroading in high rpms.
My lightning has 207k miles on it pushing 700hp most of its life, of course its not stock built anymore, but still.
Only thing i change earlier is my bike every 1000 miles, but i think thats close to kawasakis recommendation anyway.

 

[AzScorpion]

What oil life monitor? 5k.

According to the Owner's Manual:

Scheduled Maintenance
When the oil change message appears in the information display, it is time for an oil change. Make sure you perform the oil change within two weeks or 500 mi (800 km) of the message appearing (page 412). Make sure you reset the Intelligent Oil-Life Monitor after each oil change.

OIL CHANGE INDICATOR RESET Use the information display controls on the steering wheel to reset the oil change indicator (page 264).

You can also check it on the Ford app under Vehicle.

 

[got3fords]

According to the Owner's Manual:

Scheduled Maintenance
When the oil change message appears in the information display, it is time for an oil change. Make sure you perform the oil change within two weeks or 500 mi (800 km) of the message appearing (page 412). Make sure you reset the Intelligent Oil-Life Monitor after each oil change.

OIL CHANGE INDICATOR RESET Use the information display controls on the steering wheel to reset the oil change indicator (page 264).

I was trying to be funny. I know what it is. I just don't pay any attention to it.

 

[OrangeStreak]

You can also check it on the Ford app under Vehicle.

Right,
My oil life remaining as of today on the app is 43%.

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