Livernois Tuning released

[dvh]

i am on the hairy edge of jumping into this. I want to do it badly. I am only a bit put off by an earlier post regarding voiding my warranty. some of the purchase price of my Ranger, of course, went to paying for that warranty. are all of the folks on this thread casting aside this part of their value?

-dvh

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[CO2Ranger]

i am on the hairy edge of jumping into this. I want to do it badly. I am only a bit put off by an earlier post regarding voiding my warranty. some of the purchase price of my Ranger, of course, went to paying for that warranty. are all of the folks on this thread casting aside this part of their value?

-dvh

It doesn't VOID your warranty, but if your engine or tranny craps out and they find out you have the tune, none of that work will likely be covered because they can say the tune caused the failure.

Now if your windshield wipers or some other unrelated part has issues, they can't deny you warranty service based on your tune.

It's certainly a risk as your powertrain is the most expensive part of your vehicle, that's a decision you'll need to make individually.

 

[Chrisr24]

It doesn't VOID your warranty, but if your engine or tranny craps out and they find out you have the tune, none of that work will likely be covered because they can say the tune caused the failure.

Now if your windshield wipers or some other unrelated part has issues, they can't deny you warranty service based on your tune.

It's certainly a risk as your powertrain is the most expensive part of your vehicle, that's a decision you'll need to make individually.

Technically they would have to prove the tune caused the damage as well.

 

[Peter949]

i am on the hairy edge of jumping into this. I want to do it badly. I am only a bit put off by an earlier post regarding voiding my warranty. some of the purchase price of my Ranger, of course, went to paying for that warranty. are all of the folks on this thread casting aside this part of their value?

-dvh

I was in the same boat as you with the same reasons but I did some research on high mileage ecoboost engines for the F150 and Mustang and found out that they are very reliable engines. FP also released their own tune which makes me think the tune is not really stressing engine and is engineered well enough to last with it. Also, the gains were worth it and I not only drive my Ranger to commute but enjoy it while commuting. In the end, is the gains worth the risk for you?

 

[Loma]

i am on the hairy edge of jumping into this. I want to do it badly. I am only a bit put off by an earlier post regarding voiding my warranty. some of the purchase price of my Ranger, of course, went to paying for that warranty. are all of the folks on this thread casting aside this part of their value?

-dvh

Not throwing away that value, I just trust that Livernois wouldn't put something in the tune that would cause damage to the engine or drive train. In order for ford to not cover a failure, they would have to prove the tune caused the failure. The Magnuson Moss Warranty Act prohibits automobile manufacturers and dealers from voiding a vehicle’s warranty simply because an aftermarket part or a part not made by the original manufacturer was installed on said vehicle.

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

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For the gauges you can have on the tuner which one is boost pressure? wanna be able to see what the turbo is boosting at.

Sorry. New guy here...For boost pressure can you use a obd2 dongle and app on the phone?

The Mycal Gauges menu does have a MAP sensor reading which allows you to see how much boost the truck is making and is located in the Airflow category. Our gauges are displayed in Ford's native language / format which is InHg or basically double what PSI would be. So I personally just cut the MAP reading in half for boost PSI or divide by 2.036 to be precise.

 

[archangelkoch.308]

One Question, that I could not see on the website, will this be required to be connected to the truck at all times or can the truck be programmed and then unplugged. just not a fan of having to leave it plugged in.

 

[jleds]

One Question, that I could not see on the website, will this be required to be connected to the truck at all times or can the truck be programmed and then unplugged. just not a fan of having to leave it plugged in.

No you can unplug it after you flash your truck. I had the same question before I bought it and so far this tune has been nothing but impressive.

 

[aeroshots]

One Question, that I could not see on the website, will this be required to be connected to the truck at all times or can the truck be programmed and then unplugged. just not a fan of having to leave it plugged in.

Do not have to leave plugged in.
Edit: nevermind^^^

 

[CO2Ranger]

Update:
Flashed back to stock to take it to the dealer. No issues.

When I flashed back to the performance tune I got to try out this new feature where the MyCal only writes the blocks it's changing rather than all 95 possible. What a difference in time!

With a performance tune with soft shifts it only needs to write to 11 memory blocks instead of 95. It's so much faster to program now (maybe 45 secs). Really smart change.

Unfortunately the transmission learning starts over too. ?‍

 

[landiscarrier]

Technically they would have to prove the tune caused the damage as well.

Correct. By federal law the dealer must clearly prove that the damage was caused by the tune.

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

One Question, that I could not see on the website, will this be required to be connected to the truck at all times or can the truck be programmed and then unplugged. just not a fan of having to leave it plugged in.

The tuner only requires being connected to the truck while you are loading / switching tunes or pulling your stock cal read initially. Once it's finished reading / writing you can disconnect it any time you'd like. If you do leave it plugged into the truck there is a gauges menu that allows you to monitor or record data logs in real time. Not a requirement though so many clients tell us they disconnect it when not in use. For the customer that does prefer leaving it connected we do also offer an optional suction cup mount for the Mycal as well.
https://www.livernoismotorsports.com/product/LPP670000

 

[StezenW]

Update:
Flashed back to stock to take it to the dealer. No issues.

When I flashed back to the performance tune I got to try out this new feature where the MyCal only writes the blocks it's changing rather than all 95 possible. What a difference in time!

With a performance tune with soft shifts it only needs to write to 11 memory blocks instead of 95. It's so much faster to program now (maybe 45 secs). Really smart change.

Unfortunately the transmission learning starts over too. ?‍

What was it at the dealer for that required reflashing to stock?

 

[CO2Ranger]

What was it at the dealer for that required reflashing to stock?

They replaced a rear axle seal but wasn't sure if they'd flash a trans update for the clunk I feel on start and stop.

If the dealer tries to flash over the tune I've heard you can brick the module. Didn't want to risk it.

 

[Livernois Motorsports]

They replaced a rear axle seal but wasn't sure if they'd flash a trans update for the clunk I feel on start and stop.

If the dealer tries to flash over the tune I've heard you can brick the module. Didn't want to risk it.

Any time you take the vehicle into the dealer or a shop in general for service it's strongly suggested to revert back to the stock tune and to check your Module Info before / after before trying to re-install the tune. Often times Ford may have released a newer stock cal update that can change your ECU strategy and SW codes. If you get the vehicle back and the ECU / SW codes are no longer the same, you'd want to hold off on tuning the truck and send us a new tune request with those updated codes so we can set up the corresponding tunes to match.

Also if you forget to take it back to stock and they do end up applying a factory calibration update no worries. They just flash the truck back to stock and load the updated cal, but it won't cause any issues with the tune or ECU. Some of the competitors devices marry to the cal in the truck and then won't work after if someone overwrote their tune without getting the manufacturer / calibrator involved, but our programmer does not have that issue. Still always best to flash it back to stock before service though either way so you are not making it harder on your dealer tech to check for TSB updates and things of that nature.

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