Livernois Tuning Question

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I run the FP tune (which is Livernois resold by Ford Performance) in tow mode and traction control off all day every day. Creates the aggressive driving experience I was looking for when getting a tune in the first place. The truck feels “hungry”.

Engine braking downshifts are aggressive, I like it not skipping second gear, and tow mode turns off the auto start/stop too. I’ve observed WOT shifting between Tow and Sport to be very similar, with RPM at shift points in Tow mode to be maybe 500 rpm sooner than Sport, however when examining the dyno charts thread a majority of these motors don’t make peak power after 5700 rpm so I’m glad tow mode WOT shift points actually keep the motor in a stronger part of the power band too. Prob helps clarify for me why the truck WOT pulls feel stronger in tow vs sport mode.
You are both correct and incorrect sir. The tuner itself is by Livernois, but the tune is by Ford Performance.
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If anyone has figured out how to get this Procal tool to display boost pressure in PSI I’d appreciate the insight. Kinda sucks not being able to when other tools like the 5star Tuning tool can.
Unfortunately it won't. Already talked to Livernois and they wont do it. A pain in the ass but the unfortunate truth.
 

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I’m going to install a set of gauges. Boost, oil pressure and wideband Air/fuel ratio.
Going to mount them in the dash tray.
Haven’t decided on the brand or setup yet....still researching.
 

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I’m going to install a set of gauges. Boost, oil pressure and wideband Air/fuel ratio.
Going to mount them in the dash tray.
Haven’t decided on the brand or setup yet....still researching.
Boost and oil pressure I get but why a wideband Air/Fuel gauge? I figured that unless you are going stupid crazy with racing it isnt something to bother with.
 

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Frenchy, I thought you in particular might be interested in my craziness...lol
Actually I really want to keep close tabs on how rich or lean my fuel ratio is. I’m under extended warranty and when I drop in that hot tune from Livernois I want to make sure I give myself the best chance at seeing an issue before it’s an issue.
I want to focus more on performance than off-road capabilities. Having said that, I plan on going with a performance tire instead of big power/mpg eating tires. Heck, with the stock tires and setup I’ve yet to come across a off-road obstacle I couldn’t handle.
BTW....I was a C-130 instrument/autopilot avionics specialist in the USAF....gotta have a slick gauge setup right? ?
 


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Frenchy, I thought you in particular might be interested in my craziness...lol
Actually I really want to keep close tabs on how rich or lean my fuel ratio is. I’m under extended warranty and when I drop in that hot tune from Livernois I want to make sure I give myself the best chance at seeing an issue before it’s an issue.
I want to focus more on performance than off-road capabilities. Having said that, I plan on going with a performance tire instead of big power/mpg eating tires. Heck, with the stock tires and setup I’ve yet to come across a off-road obstacle I couldn’t handle.
BTW....I was a C-130 instrument/autopilot avionics specialist in the USAF....gotta have a slick gauge setup right? ?
Fair enough reasoning but if it helps you can get an Air/Fuel reading off the Livernois My Touch Calibrator. Just so you are aware at least. Unfortunately you will need to add for oil pressure.
 

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Fair enough reasoning but if it helps you can get an Air/Fuel reading off the Livernois My Touch Calibrator. Just so you are aware at least. Unfortunately you will need to add for oil pressure.
I’ll need to install a sensor in my exhaust for the wideband monitoring. I’m thinking the mytouch calibrator would monitor lowband ratios due to the lack of the sensor. Believe it or not, the wideband setup is almost identical to the system on turboprop engines.
 

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@Frenchy - Do you know of a guide from Livernois to all the gauge options on the Procal tool? I’ve tried the A/F gauge but some of the numbers I get on that gauge and others in the Procal make no sense. Feel like I need a “Procal for Idiots” guide. Right now I monitor IAT / Coolant / Tire Pressures.
 

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@Frenchy - Do you know of a guide from Livernois to all the gauge options on the Procal tool? I’ve tried the A/F gauge but some of the numbers I get on that gauge and others in the Procal make no sense. Feel like I need a “Procal for Idiots” guide. Right now I monitor IAT / Coolant / Tire Pressures.
Lol I don't have a guide but the reading you get on the My Touch Calibrator for Air/Fuel is a Lambda reading. It is different then wide band and a bit more precise for the PCM. I myself monitor the following: Map and BP(I use them for boost calculations) Transmission Temp, Cat Temp(calculated value but better than nothing) Coolant Temp and Cylinder Head Temp(I watch the correlation between this and Coolant so I know if a leak is present without opening the hood). What you watch is up to you. Tire pressure is also avalible in the intrument cluster. I cant speak for the XL but I know for sure the XLT and Lariat do.
 

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Lol I don't have a guide but the reading you get on the My Touch Calibrator for Air/Fuel is a Lambda reading. It is different then wide band and a bit more precise for the PCM. I myself monitor the following: Map and BP(I use them for boost calculations) Transmission Temp, Cat Temp(calculated value but better than nothing) Coolant Temp and Cylinder Head Temp(I watch the correlation between this and Coolant so I know if a leak is present without opening the hood). What you watch is up to you. Tire pressure is also avalible in the intrument cluster. I cant speak for the XL but I know for sure the XLT and Lariat do.
Hey that’s helpful info. Thank you!

What does BP represent (boost pressure?) and how are you calculating boost pressure between MAP and BP?

What are the names of the gauges to select for the trans temp and Cylinder head temp? I’ve looked for the trans temp under the trans set of gauges but couldn’t determine which gauge setting was the right one.

My XL does have tire pressure in the cluster but I used on the Procal to “take up room”

Sorry for the stupid questions,but appreciate the guidance!
 

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Hey that’s helpful info. Thank you!

What does BP represent (boost pressure?) and how are you calculating boost pressure between MAP and BP?

What are the names of the gauges to select for the trans temp and Cylinder head temp? I’ve looked for the trans temp under the trans set of gauges but couldn’t determine which gauge setting was the right one.

My XL does have tire pressure in the cluster but I used on the Procal to “take up room”

Sorry for the stupid questions,but appreciate the guidance!
BP stands for Barometric Pressure. That is the static air pressure in the general area you are in. For example a place with. High elevation with have lower Barometric Pressure. With that being said I take my Map pressure reading and subtract the BP and then divide that number by 2. Most of the time I will see a peak in the low to mid 20's in psi. That is how I calculate. As for transmission temp you need to scroll through the transmission screen to get that temperature reading. It is a pain to scroll but it is possible. Cylinder head temp is shown as CHT.

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BP stands for Barometric Pressure. That is the static air pressure in the general area you are in. For example a place with. High elevation with have lower Barometric Pressure. With that being said I take my Map pressure reading and subtract the BP and then divide that number by 2. Most of the time I will see a peak in the low to mid 20's in psi. That is how I calculate. As for transmission temp you need to scroll through the transmission screen to get that temperature reading. It is a pain to scroll but it is possible. Cylinder head temp is shown as CHT.

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Awesome info! I didn’t even know you could scroll on the trans gauges screen. Imma have me some fun in the AM. Many thanks, Frenchy!
 

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They have 5 tunes for the Ranger and you'll get all of them. I like the 91-93 performance tune and have been running that one since August. Like Steve mentioned you don't need to keep it plugged in but you can see data if you do. They sell a suction cup mount which if you're wanting to mount it you should get when you order your tune. Otherwise it cost more to ship it than the mount.


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The Ford Performance tune for Ranger is the same deal: you have the option of keeping the unit visible or of packing it up afterwards, which is the option I chose--my cabin is too cluttered as it is! Either way, we love the added HP & torque and the smoother, sharper shifting! (The FP only gives you one tune to choose from, however!)
The Ford Tune costs more as well correct?
Although I know it also maintains the original Ford warranty.
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The Ford Tune costs more as well correct?
Although I know it also maintains the original Ford warranty.
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Yes you're correct the Ford tune costs more and IIRC you have to have them (Ford dealer) instal it. With the Livernois tune you can instal it yourself and you get all of their tunes which is currently 5. This way you can try them all out and see which one you like best. t only takes 2-3 minutes to flash between tunes.

The FPT is designed by Livernois but on a scaled down version. I realize some like the idea of retaining your warrantee but honestly I wouldn't worry to much. These eco boost are capable of a lot more than even these tunes provide but yes, anything can happen when tuning. So for peace of mind some like the FPT and it still gives you a huge improvement over stock.
 

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Yes you're correct the Ford tune costs more and IIRC you have to have them (Ford dealer) instal it. With the Livernois tune you can instal it yourself and you get all of their tunes which is currently 5. This way you can try them all out and see which one you like best. t only takes 2-3 minutes to flash between tunes.

The FPT is designed by Livernois but on a scaled down version. I realize some like the idea of retaining your warrantee but honestly I wouldn't worry to much. These eco boost are capable of a lot more than even these tunes provide but yes, anything can happen when tuning. So for peace of mind some like the FPT and it still gives you a huge improvement over stock.
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The Ford Tune costs more as well correct?
Although I know it also maintains the original Ford warranty.
Brian
Hey, Brian and Dave, it looks like you can't go far wrong with either tune, and a lot of members are very happy with both brands. Either way, you get a huge improvement over stock. I personally like to keep it in the Ford family for warranty purposes, but that is just me being extra-careful. As to price, it depends on where you buy your parts. Levittown Ford usually has the best price (and by far) on Ford Accessories and Ford Performance parts. For instance, on their site, accessed today, the tune in question is advertised as follows,

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