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Yikes, $280. I got mine replaced at Sam's Club for half that.

Of course over the course of four years it isn't a huge financial hit but I try to allocate expenses best I can.
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Yep I noticed ASS went away in early winter and replaced my 03/2019 battery with an Interstate 850cca from Costco. ASS immediately came back. I'm not complaining whatsoever about a vehicle that gives dead battery warning signs, and lasted 5 solid years, this is actually impressive in my opinion! Especially with the ASS abuse.
 

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The recent ice/cold in North Alabama finally took its toll on my battery and I ended up replacing it tonight at the dealership.

Monday morning when I sat in my truck I noticed my nav screen displaying a "System Off to Save Battery, Please turn ignition off or start engine" message. I have never experienced this message before so I figured a battery replacement might be due soon. I continued to receive this message every time I sat in the truck and leaving work this afternoon the automatic lock on my passenger door did not unlock when I tried to open the door...

Took it right to the dealership and the techs and I tested my battery/alternator. Instantly their battery tester lit up red and displayed the battery bad message. The OEM lariat battery is rated for 800CCA and the tester registered close to 500CCA so that confirmed my suspicion. Testing the alternator we registered a 14.98 - 15.00 V on the terminals and we concluded this was rather high. The technician mentioned maybe I have a bad alternator, but I had another hypothesis. My hypothesis is that our battery management system was overcompensating for the bad battery and that was the likely cause of the high voltage reading. For now my hypothesis looks to be correct; after replacement it registered a nominal 14.30V reading.

My Ranger is a 06/19 build date so I think almost 5 years out of the OEM AGM battery is nothing to scoff at...We replaced it with a Motorcraft BAGM94RH7800 AGM battery with a 36mo warranty.

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Lessons Learned:
  1. Ensure the technician actually plugs up the front connector (grey) back to the positive terminal box or else you will get a power steering dash light ?
  2. Ensure the technician remembers to reset your automatic windows or else you will be stuck back in the dark ages where you have to hold the button for it to roll up or down all the way (Going back to the dealership tomorrow to get them to reset that free of charge)
  3. Pay attention to any weird warning messages, it prevented me from being dead in the water this go around. ?
Thanks for posting this material. I am coming up on five years on the battery for my 2019 Lariat, with no battery issues to date, but it is getting up there. Maybe I will wait until the truck is fully paid for, which will free up c. 700.00 USD per month for batteries and mods...
 

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As I am hearing a new term…. “the parts cannon”. That’s great if you are the dealership but I am not as fortunate as they are.
I like that. I am partial to "Parts-Swapping Monkey" as the moniker for inept technicians...
 

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Testing the alternator we registered a 14.98 - 15.00 V on the terminals and we concluded this was rather high. The technician mentioned maybe I have a bad alternator
I often see my charging voltage at 14.8-14.9 at the 12v outlet. Sometimes it down to 13.5. It varies a lot, don't know why. Maybe outside temps?
 


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I often see my charging voltage at 14.8-14.9 at the 12v outlet. Sometimes it down to 13.5. It varies a lot, don't know why. Maybe outside temps?
That is what I see also, 14.7-14.8 at the 12v outlet while driving. It is usually 12.7 when not running.
 

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That is what I see also, 14.7-14.8 at the 12v outlet while driving. It is usually 12.7 when not running.
Interesting. Do you have BMS enabled?
 

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I have a 2019 and am having the same issues as the OP had. "System Off to Save Battery, Please turn ignition off or start engine" message" and the the automatic unlock on my passenger doors did not unlock when I tried to open the door also the touch lock button didn't work, but sometimes they work flawlessly, at least the Drivers door still functions but is starting to need more than one touch sometimes....The dealer also told me I don't drive it enough. Guess that's a standard answer they use when there are weird things happening. Guess It's time for an new battery.
 
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I have a 2019 and am having the same issues as the OP had. "System Off to Save Battery, Please turn ignition off or start engine" message" and the the automatic unlock on my passenger doors did not unlock when I tried to open the door also the touch lock button didn't work, but sometimes they work flawlessly, at least the Drivers door still functions but is starting to need more than one touch sometimes....The dealer also told me I don't drive it enough. Guess that's a standard answer they use when there are weird things happening. Guess It's time for an new battery.
Yep, at least let them test it to see if the CCAs is abnormal. All of those issues have went away this week with the new battery.
 

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My 2020 XLT started showing signs of a bad battery 6+ months ago or so. Build date is 03/2020, currently 46k miles, not driven as much in the last year. I got the battery saving message a few times, then realized auto stop start wasn't working (disabled it with the eliminator), shortly after I bought it, then had to reselect Sirius XM on startup. Finally got tired of it, priced a new battery at Ford dealer and Advance Auto, $270.00 or so there. Upgraded to the H7 battery from Weize for $140.00 and a new battery blanket. Installed the battery and Auto stop start worked but still had to reselect Sirius. Also performed the BMS Reset successfully. My plug-in volt meter was showing anywhere from 12.7 to 14.6 while driving. On Thursday, I disconnected the negative cable and charged it overnight. This morning I removed the charger(AGM style charger), reconnected the negative cable, did the reset again. Plug-in voltmeter reads 14.6 while driving, issues with AS/S, Sirius XM and add phone still exists. Advance Auto checked battery, found good, but did not check the alternator. What have I done wrong and/or where do I go from here? Thanks for any help/ideas...
 

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My 2020 XLT started showing signs of a bad battery 6+ months ago or so. Build date is 03/2020, currently 46k miles, not driven as much in the last year. I got the battery saving message a few times, then realized auto stop start wasn't working (disabled it with the eliminator), shortly after I bought it, then had to reselect Sirius XM on startup. Finally got tired of it, priced a new battery at Ford dealer and Advance Auto, $270.00 or so there. Upgraded to the H7 battery from Weize for $140.00 and a new battery blanket. Installed the battery and Auto stop start worked but still had to reselect Sirius. Also performed the BMS Reset successfully. My plug-in volt meter was showing anywhere from 12.7 to 14.6 while driving. On Thursday, I disconnected the negative cable and charged it overnight. This morning I removed the charger(AGM style charger), reconnected the negative cable, did the reset again. Plug-in voltmeter reads 14.6 while driving, issues with AS/S, Sirius XM and add phone still exists. Advance Auto checked battery, found good, but did not check the alternator. What have I done wrong and/or where do I go from here? Thanks for any help/ideas...
Your Sirius and phone issues sound like you have an old Sync3 build known to develop those issues over time. If you have a build less than 23188, then update. Do not rely on using a wifi connection to check for an available update. Instead, download from the Ford website and do the USB update process.
 

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My 2020 XLT started showing signs of a bad battery 6+ months ago or so. Build date is 03/2020, currently 46k miles, not driven as much in the last year. I got the battery saving message a few times, then realized auto stop start wasn't working (disabled it with the eliminator), shortly after I bought it, then had to reselect Sirius XM on startup. Finally got tired of it, priced a new battery at Ford dealer and Advance Auto, $270.00 or so there. Upgraded to the H7 battery from Weize for $140.00 and a new battery blanket. Installed the battery and Auto stop start worked but still had to reselect Sirius. Also performed the BMS Reset successfully. My plug-in volt meter was showing anywhere from 12.7 to 14.6 while driving. On Thursday, I disconnected the negative cable and charged it overnight. This morning I removed the charger(AGM style charger), reconnected the negative cable, did the reset again. Plug-in voltmeter reads 14.6 while driving, issues with AS/S, Sirius XM and add phone still exists. Advance Auto checked battery, found good, but did not check the alternator. What have I done wrong and/or where do I go from here? Thanks for any help/ideas...
When charging the battery with the negative lead disconnected, the BMS does not know that the battery was being charged. You should leave the battery connected, hook the negative charger clamp to a ground connection on the body, not the negative battery terminal. This will allow the BMS to see the battery being charged.
 

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As mentioned above - leave the (Neg) terminal connected and charger connected to:
Either the (Body Ground) Bolt Head or to the (Neg) Cable connection on the (BMS-Sensor) itself.
This way the BMS sensor can see the current flow into the battery (Charge)

Also mentioned above - If your Sync Verson is anything less than 23188, has numerous known issues with anything on the Sync (APIM) circuit and varying power issues for it.

You stated you did a successful BMS Reset, was it with a Scan Tool or the Alternate Method and how did you confirm it actually was Successful?
You may try to just drive it for a day or so, a good long drive to see if ASS etc, returns

Have you scanned for any codes?
 
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Thanks for all of the replies, I had forgotten about the Sync updates since all of my problems developed near to the same time the battery issue got worse. I will look into the sync update ASAP and go from there. The battery reset was completed successfully by using the flashing high beam and brake pedal method and also doing the drivers side window calibration.
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