Transmission Issues

[SFB]

Yes, the part number for the new transmission on a 4x4 Ranger is
KB3Z-7000-B. The reman is part number KB3Z-7000-BRM. All of the people posting copies of their warranty paperwork are showing the KB3Z-7000-B including my truck. Both part numbers are legit Ford numbers. Attaching pics of my repair order and tag on my new transmission for reference. Note there are core charges for both new and reman.

If there is a core change then what do they do to the old unit?

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[Stevedbvik1]

If there is a core change then what do they do to the old unit?

Tear down for failure analysis to build up a data base then send it to Motorcraft for reman, bank them to keep them off the street or maybe build up their core bank incase there’s a recall or class action settlement down the pipe. Or all of the above. The last thing that Ford would want is to have the old ones floating around and not getting repaired/updated properly by a non Ford facility adding to their woes. Getting cores back on new units is pretty common practice for many manufacturers.

 

[SFB]

Tear down for failure analysis to build up a data base then send it to Motorcraft for reman, bank them to keep them off the street or maybe build up their core bank incase there’s a recall or class action settlement down the pipe. Or all of the above. The last thing that Ford would want is to have the old ones floating around and not getting repaired/updated properly by a non Ford facility adding to their woes. Getting cores back on new units is pretty common practice for many manufacturers.

Storing it all makes no sense! Cost money to just store. Usually a core is returned and it’s remanufactured, which based off what I’ve been told is what you get in a replacement. Those are remanufactured to the latest revision! If they are then wouldn’t they be just as good as a new one? I was an FAA repair tech, use to remanufacture all the time. As long as it is built to latest specs. It’s also common for a manufacturer to outsource and contract with a shop that does this, these are inspected and audited, doesn’t mean they’re good and doesn’t mean they’re bad. I just don’t think you are getting a brand new off the shelf unit.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

Storing it all makes no sense! Cost money to just store. Usually a core is returned and it’s remanufactured, which based off what I’ve been told is what you get in a replacement. Those are remanufactured to the latest revision! If they are then wouldn’t they be just as good as a new one? I was an FAA repair tech, use to remanufacture all the time. As long as it is built to latest specs. It’s also common for a manufacturer to outsource and contract with a shop that does this, these are inspected and audited, doesn’t mean they’re good and doesn’t mean they’re bad. I just don’t think you are getting a brand new off the shelf unit.

I just had a brand new transmission installed in my 2022 with 17800 miles on it this week. I was told it was new and questioned it and was reassured it wasn’t a reman. If it was a reman you would think it would be tagged as so. Others on here have purchased the new transmission out of warranty with the same part number. Maybe @LevittownFordParts.com can confirm for us?

 

[airline tech]

I just had a brand new transmission installed in my 2022 with 17800 miles on it this week. I was told it was new and questioned it and was reassured it wasn’t a reman. If it was a reman you would think it would be tagged as so. Others on here have purchased the new transmission out of warranty with the same part number. Maybe @LevittownFordParts.com can confirm for us?

Well, the Tag on the Transmission is the only way to tell for sure and that is the (Engineering Part #)

The Repair Order P/N = The Service Part # - (-B) indicates 4WD and (-A) indicates 2WD

If the Engineering Breakdown follows the Service Part # (protocol)
This is the breakdown
KB3P:
K=2019
B3 =Ranger
P = Transmission / Axle (Engineering Division-Who is responsible)

7000 = Base P/N

-UD Last 2 (Letters) = Revision Level of that part number

This is the point where we need Ford Parts Help in deciphering as here is my Aug 16, 2022, build date:
Transmission Part Number:

Note: This is day 1 of the TSB - Cutoff date for the CDF Drum replacement (Vehicles built after Aug 15, 2022)
So (N) = 2022
with a revision level of (FA)

So, I am assuming I have the revised CDF Drum installed, not verified though as I can only base my assumption on the TSB cutoff data and the parts data tag of (N) vs (K)
I can at least verify that the transmission was originally produced in 2022 vs 2019.
I think the details of the Revision Level (what's included in that revision is the most important information)

Now normally the revision levels start at B (this would equal revision #2)
When they reach Z they extend to a 2-Letter revision - so AA - would equal revision #27 and AB would equal revision #28 etc.,.
But for some reason, I do not think they are following that type of revision code reasoning.
As Rev FA or UD would be way too many revision levels.

So, we are missing a vital piece of part breakdown (revision level) data (explanation)

Phil - Are you Free? to explain

 

[Trustable]

2022 LARIAT/TREMOR 501A Package, so basically the top possible build, well except for the many “deleted” things that SHOULD have come with the truck. Things I bought and installed myself. But of course that’s another story. I just turned 7k miles and things like this post scare me to death and have me shaking my head.

No noticeable issues with mine, so far, but this post and others with issues and stories of replacements on VERY low mileage vehicles is frankly sickening. And….. yes I’ve seen it pointed out here that the percentage of trucks with actual problems (tranny and otherwise) is really small. That said, one transmission needing to be replaced on any vehicle with such low mileage is just wrong.

Well I guess I’ll just keep crossing my fingers every time I start mine.

all I’m doing is looking and/or waiting till warranty is about up and selling it to Carvana. I do not want to give ford more money for the extended warranty with all the issues I’ve had at only 26k miles. I recommend you do the same if you are nervous. It will just eat at you and stress you out when the warranty is up.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

Well, the Tag on the Transmission is the only way to tell for sure and that is the (Engineering Part #)

The Repair Order P/N = The Service Part # - (-B) indicates 4WD and (-A) indicates 2WD

If the Engineering Breakdown follows the Service Part # (protocol)
This is the breakdown
KB3P:
K=2019
B3 =Ranger
P = Transmission / Axle (Engineering Division-Who is responsible)

7000 = Base P/N

-UD Last 2 (Letters) = Revision Level of that part number

This is the point where we need Ford Parts Help in deciphering as here is my Aug 16, 2022, build date:
Transmission Part Number:

Note: This is day 1 of the TSB - Cutoff date for the CDF Drum replacement (Vehicles built after Aug 15, 2022)
So (N) = 2022
with a revision level of (FA)

So, I am assuming I have the revised CDF Drum installed, not verified though as I can only base my assumption on the TSB cutoff data and the parts data tag of (N) vs (K)
I can at least verify that the transmission was originally produced in 2022 vs 2019.
I think the details of the Revision Level (what's included in that revision is the most important information)

Now normally the revision levels start at B (this would equal revision #2)
When they reach Z they extend to a 2-Letter revision - so AA - would equal revision #27 and AB would equal revision #28 etc.,.
But for some reason, I do not think they are following that type of revision code reasoning.
As Rev FA or UD would be way too many revision levels.

So, we are missing a vital piece of part breakdown (revision level) data (explanation)

Phil - Are you Free? to explain

I’m also curious about the 22206 number and wondering if that is the transmission production date ( June 20 2022)? On my new transmission it’s 24156 ( June 15 2024?). The six digit number could be a serial number? Also on my tag there is the extra “ss” next to the “awp” . The 24156 and 132315 also show up on the sol strategy/sol body id tag which is on the opposite side of the transmission. It would be nice to have an explanation of all the data on the tags.

 

[airline tech]

I will be going to dealer soon (awaiting parts) for a Driver's Seat Warranty issue, Seat Base / Spring & Cushion (replacement) - So I will have some time to speak with the parts counter and see if I can gain some part number knowledge from them.

 

[Ranger6g]

Another one here. On 3rd tranny now at 91,000 km. Similar issue, was like it was in neutral on a cold start for about 10-15 seconds and rolled back uncontrollably. First one just blew apparently under another owner .

 

[Strapper]

I’ve been having transmission issues with the Ranger for a while. Cold start and the truck feels like it goes into neutral for a few seconds then hard shifts. Feels like a sledgehammer hitting the transmission. Even when the transmission is at temp, it hard shifts with start and stop traffic.

I had the truck at the dealership for the past week and the tested it and did a reset of the adaptive learning tables. I just drove it and it’s hard shifting less than a mile from the dealership.

The good news is the service manager and the warranty manager are pushing Ford to speed up the process and get a new transmission. They said from their experience with the 10R80, Ford likes to replace the transmission when it’s under 30k miles. I hope that’s the case but I haven’t read anything about that.

Also they are replacing the hvac blower. It’s very loud at max output and the blower is shaking and rattling.

Just started having the same blower issue. Knock it down a peg and it stops. The first time it happened I figured something had burrowed in through the cabin filter but it was pristine. White the shudder on high!

 

[SFB]

I just had a brand new transmission installed in my 2022 with 17800 miles on it this week. I was told it was new and questioned it and was reassured it wasn’t a reman. If it was a reman you would think it would be tagged as so. Others on here have purchased the new transmission out of warranty with the same part number. Maybe @LevittownFordParts.com can confirm for us?

I am going by what I’ve been told from a Ford service rep, also working in my own field, which is a little more controlled. Also said rep told me only so many new unit are built and mated to an engine for new vehicles. I’m not saying I’m right, only what makes sense. I could be absolutely wrong! Not trying to start anything, I would like to know too! I do remember reading, and I looked and unfortunately couldn’t find it, in the fine print with a warranty repair it is Ford’s decision on what goes in! <~That is not a verbatim quote.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

Another one here. On 3rd tranny now at 91,000 km. Similar issue, was like it was in neutral on a cold start for about 10-15 seconds and rolled back uncontrollably. First one just blew apparently under another owner .

What model transmission is in the Austrailan Ranger?

 

[Stevedbvik1]

I will be going to dealer soon (awaiting parts) for a Driver's Seat Warranty issue, Seat Base / Spring & Cushion (replacement) - So I will have some time to speak with the parts counter and see if I can gain some part number knowledge from them.

Here’s some more data off my transmission. This area is just towards the rear of the transmission on the passenger side next to the id tag . Image is kind of hard to read but here is what I got when I scanned the bar code
G938A24128565108RFJR3P 7006 NA

 

[Stevedbvik1]

I am going by what I’ve been told from a Ford service rep, also working in my own field, which is a little more controlled. Also said rep told me only so many new unit are built and mated to an engine for new vehicles. I’m not saying I’m right, only what makes sense. I could be absolutely wrong! Not trying to start anything, I would like to know too! I do remember reading, and I looked and unfortunately couldn’t find it, in the fine print with a warranty repair it is Ford’s decision on what goes in! <~That is not a verbatim quote.

No worries. I just want to know for sure myself.

 

[Rocketeer61]

2022 LARIAT/TREMOR 501A Package, so basically the top possible build, well except for the many “deleted” things that SHOULD have come with the truck. Things I bought and installed myself. But of course that’s another story. I just turned 7k miles and things like this post scare me to death and have me shaking my head.

No noticeable issues with mine, so far, but this post and others with issues and stories of replacements on VERY low mileage vehicles is frankly sickening. And….. yes I’ve seen it pointed out here that the percentage of trucks with actual problems (tranny and otherwise) is really small. That said, one transmission needing to be replaced on any vehicle with such low mileage is just wrong.

Well I guess I’ll just keep crossing my fingers every time I start mine.

Exactly. Quality either is or it isn't. To my way of thinking, whether it's one failure, or 10 or 10,000, a bad design is a bad design. When you give buyers a choice of one transmission that component needs to be anything but. That Ford can look at the numbers and still shine owners on is unconscionable. I was one of the Saturn owners who was bent over the table by their VTI transmission catastrophe and I thought that buying a Ford would be different. Doesn't look like it so far.

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