So, with no empirical evidence you believe the Livernois tune is more stable than the Unleashed tune just because that's the one you bought and you've had no problems with it?
How do you provide data logs? I hope this isn't a stupid question. I have never can tuned or custom tuned a vehicle before. If providing the data logs is a difficult or expensive process, that would make a impact on my decision.
For the Livernois tune I connected the MyCal tuner to the OBD port. Then on the touch screen you touch upload and that'll load all your logs, usually in about 20 minutes. Once done you just go to your computer and send them to the tuner. With Livernois there's a program you download and it uploads to that. You'll receive your tune (s) the same way and just reverse the process which is very easy.
Got it. So what makes the Livernois and Unleashed drastically different then? If you are sending both companies logs for them to add their tune onto?
Just the way they tweak (shift points, etc...) their tunes. They're both great companies and you can't go wrong with either one. With Livernois you have to have a PC (not Mac compatible) which I had to use a friends and Unleashed IIRC is cloud based so you can use any computer.
Livernois asks for logs if there's a problem or if you add significant mods that warrant a change. Otherwise, you'd never need to send logs to them. Livernois gives you up to 5 (now 6) tunes from the start and you just test each and see what suits your style.
Empirical Evidence....lolSo, with no empirical evidence you believe the Livernois tune is more stable than the Unleashed tune just because that's the one you bought and you've had no problems with it?
That seems logical.
Aren't you a scientist?
I've owned multiple tuned vehicles in the past. The fact that Torrie will tweak his tunes for the vehicle/owner is definitely a plus. Not sure why you THINK of it as a negative. A "canned" tune will NEVER be as safe as one customized to the vehicle.
That sounds right. You need a device to upload/download and store the tunes on. They both use different devices. If you have one from a previous tune and it's compatible with Unleashed you can use it there.
Cost yes but don't rule out Unleashed. Torrie is a great tuner and from everything I've read on here he really takes care if you if/when you want changes done. Doc @Doc was the test Ranger to initially design the tune for the new Ranger.
The tweaks are to make sure things are safe, that you get the most power for your application and mods, and to respond to any changes you want or have made to the truck (shifting is just one of the many things). Recently I got revisions for my new intercooler. Most folks say that the IC is just there to reduce heat soak and there is not much to gain. Maybe with a canned or stock tune, but with proper datalogs more can be had and I saw noticeable gains.
Heck the man will get back to you at midnight on a weekend! I don't think he ever sleeps. Although tweaks are included in his package, I often send him money just because he goes out of his way to helps so darned much. Its pretty impressive.
I already had an SCT BDX that I used when I had the 5-Star tunes, so I was able to go to Unleashed and not have to buy a new device as he supports the BDX.
