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Got it. So what makes the Livernois and Unleashed drastically different then? If you are sending both companies logs for them to add their tune onto?
1. Livernois doesn't do custom tunes. When you start doing mods like bigger turbos, more aggressive cams, etc. You will need to go to someone like Unleashed that will provide a custom tune for your build.
2. Livernois has a proprietary device for installing the tune to your vehicle which means it only works with their tunes on a specific vehicle. Unleashed works with the SCT platform. There are 100s if not 1000s of tuners that work with the SCT platform allowing you to change tuners without purchasing new hardware. Plus the SCT hand held devices will work with every Ford product since 1996. I originally purchased my SCT X4 from Steeda back in 2013 for my Focus ST. When I got my 15 Ecoboost Mustang I got a tune from Steeda, I latter tried the SCT canned tunes, then went to Unleashed for some custom tuning. I have now used the same device to tune the Ranger with the SCT canned tune and Unleashed for custom transmission tuning.
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1. Livernois doesn't do custom tunes. When you start doing mods like bigger turbos, more aggressive cams, etc. You will need to go to someone like Unleashed that will provide a custom tune for your build.

Good to know. Most I plan on doing is charge pipes, CAI and catback.
 
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1. Livernois doesn't do custom tunes. When you start doing mods like bigger turbos, more aggressive cams, etc. You will need to go to someone like Unleashed that will provide a custom tune for your build.
2. Livernois has a proprietary device for installing the tune to your vehicle which means it only works with their tunes on a specific vehicle. Unleashed works with the SCT platform. There are 100s if not 1000s of tuners that work with the SCT platform allowing you to change tuners without purchasing new hardware. Plus the SCT hand held devices will work with every Ford product since 1996. I originally purchased my SCT X4 from Steeda back in 2013 for my Focus ST. When I got my 15 Ecoboost Mustang I got a tune from Steeda, I latter tried the SCT canned tunes, then went to Unleashed for some custom tuning. I have now used the same device to tune the Ranger with the SCT canned tune and Unleashed for custom transmission tuning.
The SCT canned tune actually isn't that bad. Similar gains to the Ford Racing tune if you go by their specs. I tried it and it ran good.

Livernois does do custom tuning, but I am not sure they do for the Ranger nor am I sure they do so remotely. I don't know if their device can even datalog. Maybe someone could research that.
 
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Hang on a minute there brother.....I never said Livernois was more stable than anything or offered any data other than my opinion (not worth much). What I said was the tuning from Livernois has been VERY stable for ME! I have absolutely NO IDEA about anything with an Unleashed tune except all the chatter on here about tweaks to tunes and error codes and whatever else the folks that run those tunes experience. To be completely honest with you....I could give a rats arse what anybody thinks about Livernois tunes or Unleashed tunes or any other modification results on this forum. I know what I know about MY Ranger and it's all good.....

I completely disagree with what you said about canned tunes.....can't understand why the tune needs to be tweaked to "the vehicle"...do you have a different vehicle than I do? I could see if you have other modifications....but just a CAI and an exhaust shouldn't need any tweaking......
Can't see how continually "tweaking" the tune is good for anything....why not get it right and leave it alone.....so you keep tweaking till you break it???

ANYTIME any of the Denver Unleashed crowd wants to meet up and settle this tune disagreement......no problem. I've still got my Goodyear street tires on my stock wheels in the garage and I can change them out in 30 minutes, plus Bandimere is just a 20 minute ride.....:wink:
You didn't?

Really?

Pretty sure that's exactly what you said. Matter of fact here it is AGAIN.

Yes Brother Dave....1 revision, but not customer requested revisions. I'm not sure what was revised in the Livernois tune bundle. I did know of that because I too updated. My whole issue is stability with our trucks. You know how stable our Livernois tunes are.....I don't think the same about others. IMHO as always.
btw....I figured this would open up a can of worms......(not really intended)
You explicitly said that you BELIEVE the Unleashed Tune to be "less stable" than the Livernois tune.

Again, why?


Apparrently you know VERY little about tuning anything. A custom tune is ALWAYS preferable to a canned tune. What is your experience level? Did you simply buy a Livernois tune, like it, and decide it must be the end all be all? Or have you ever had any vehicle not tuned by Livernois?

Custom tunes are always going to give better results than a canned tune. They take your ambient conditions, mods, and driving into account using actual AFRs to adjust timing. Thus, they are not only safer than a canned tune done at basically sea level while you're a mile high, generally they provide better gains.

Anybody saying a canned tune is preferable to a custom tine frankly just doesn't know shit about tuning.

Tell us, how many tuned vehicles have you owned and how many of those have been custom tuned?

If the answer is one and none, frankly, your opinion doesn't mean shit. At that point you're just a Livernois fan boy with no knowledge outside off your experiences.

And if you didn't intend on "opening a can of worms," why post here with your shit? You enjoy the Livernois tune, fine, enjoy.

Also, if I end up going Unleashed, you're on. Not because there's an axe to grind, but because I'm curious. Although we'll need to account for traction. I don't get my kicks street racing colledge kids, all I have is AT tires, it's a truck, not a sports car.

I just went to both Livernois and Unleased websites. If I am reading correctly, Livernois is one price, $599 which I believe is for 6 tunes. Unleashed has options for 1, 2 or 3 tunes starting at $249., and you have to buy the device separately. It looks like the programmer is $499. Or am I looking at the wrong device?
Incorrect. BDS tuner with one tune is $500, additional tunes at the time of purchase, $50 a piece. Their website isn't the most clear. But check under programmers/chips. You'll see it.

The $249 price you see listed is for a tune only, for folks that already have an SCT device.
 
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Also, if I end up going Unleashed, you're on. Not because there's an axe to grind, but because I'm curious. Although we'll need to account for traction. I don't get my kicks street racing colledge kids, all I have is AT tires, it's a truck, not a sports car.
Was in the Fort last weekend , as you may know College Street is a busy road and the Fort being a college town there are usually pedestrians and bike riders around, I wouldn't condone anyone street racing be it against college kids, old codgers, rednecks, hippies, Texans or anyone. My .02
 


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Was in the Fort last weekend , as you may know College Street is a busy road and the Fort being a college town there are usually pedestrians and bike riders around, I wouldn't condone anyone street racing be it against college kids, old codgers, rednecks, hippies, Texans or anyone. My .02
Many of his posts are all about him "destroying" spoiled college kids street racing. Some of the vehicles he's said to have beaten are WAY above the performance level of a tuned Ranger.

Seems like somebody who's never had a relatively quick vehicle before who just can't control himself.

College Ave in Ft Colllins is the last place anybody with a modicum of sense would try to prove their quickness.
 
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Many of his posts are all about him "destroying" spoiled college kids street racing. Some of the vehicles he's said to have beaten are WAY above the performance level of a tuned Ranger.

Seems like somebody who's never had a relatively quick vehicle before who just can't control himself.

College Ave in Ft Colllins is the last place anybody with a modicum of sense would try to prove their quickness.
Put Torrie's E50 tune in that thing and crush. I run nothing else now. Much smoother than the non-ethanol tunes and the TORQUE is fantastic.
 

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Many of his posts are all about him "destroying" spoiled college kids street racing. Some of the vehicles he's said to have beaten are WAY above the performance level of a tuned Ranger.

Seems like somebody who's never had a relatively quick vehicle before who just can't control himself.

College Ave in Ft Colllins is the last place anybody with a modicum of sense would try to prove their quickness.
Best be careful as he's good buds with one of the mods but your criticism is completely appropriate and on target. And a prior comment something about I wish everybody could have the experience of driving a truck with a tune made me reflect how completely miserable and useless my life and others lacking a tune is and it comes so close to the holidays. :frown:
 
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looks like unleashed is offering an additional tune (2 total) when you purchase their sct bdx tuner. and a $45 dollar rebate from sct. more of my money going away
Thanks for the heads up.

Just ordered.
 

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As someone else put it, they are trucks, not sports cars. No matter how fun it is to dust a Tacoma or the like, its a silly idea.

I am going to say (and I could be totally wrong) most people getting tunes for following priority level:

Gear Pattern Cleanup (too much gear hunting/skipping with factory mapping)
E-Throttle Adjustment
Fuel Mapping Cleanup
Torque (Tow Bro's)
Horsepower

Or they get a tune with the priority of HP/TQ, but then realize the other things actually impact their QoL driving far more.

My SCT box from 5-Star also has the added benefit of having the ability to update tire size.
 

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You didn't?

Really?

Pretty sure that's exactly what you said. Matter of fact here it is AGAIN.


You explicitly said that you BELIEVE the Unleashed Tune to be "less stable" than the Livernois tune.

Again, why?


Apparrently you know VERY little about tuning anything. A custom tune is ALWAYS preferable to a canned tune. What is your experience level? Did you simply buy a Livernois tune, like it, and decide it must be the end all be all? Or have you ever had any vehicle not tuned by Livernois?

Custom tunes are always going to give better results than a canned tune. They take your ambient conditions, mods, and driving into account using actual AFRs to adjust timing. Thus, they are not only safer than a canned tune done at basically sea level while you're a mile high, generally they provide better gains.

Anybody saying a canned tune is preferable to a custom tine frankly just doesn't know shit about tuning.

Tell us, how many tuned vehicles have you owned and how many of those have been custom tuned?

If the answer is one and none, frankly, your opinion doesn't mean shit. At that point you're just a Livernois fan boy with no knowledge outside off your experiences.

And if you didn't intend on "opening a can of worms," why post here with your shit? You enjoy the Livernois tune, fine, enjoy.

Also, if I end up going Unleashed, you're on. Not because there's an axe to grind, but because I'm curious. Although we'll need to account for traction. I don't get my kicks street racing colledge kids, all I have is AT tires, it's a truck, not a sports car.


Incorrect. BDS tuner with one tune is $500, additional tunes at the time of purchase, $50 a piece. Their website isn't the most clear. But check under programmers/chips. You'll see it.

The $249 price you see listed is for a tune only, for folks that already have an SCT device.
Guess I have to pony up and admit I was wrong......crow feathers don't taste good but...oh well.
 

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Side question, I've been running 93 premium for 2 years, I never considered it, would I stand to gain anything not nominal by upgrading my plugs?
I would go with whatever your tuner recommends. On my Focus ST, Stratified strongly recommended I go with colder plugs, the downside with that was that I had to change them about once a year.
 

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Guess I have to pony up and admit I was wrong......crow feathers don't taste good but...oh well.
I've got a few recipes that make it more palatable.

I've picked them up over the years.

Still wouldn't mind seeing the two run side by side. E50 tune showdown or Premium Performance tune showdown, either way. It would be interesting to see how they compare.
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