Sponsored

Fuel in oil

N. J. Jim

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jim
Joined
Apr 23, 2020
Threads
0
Messages
273
Reaction score
447
Location
Vineland,N. J.
Vehicle(s)
2019 Ford Ranger Lariat
Occupation
Retired
My truck only has 700 miles on it!!!
That's what's strange about this whole thing. Some it shows up from brand new and for some it takes 10 to 15 thousand miles to show up. Mine didn't start till between 8 and 9 thousand miles!
 

JTDay

Well-Known Member
First Name
Josh
Joined
Dec 7, 2020
Threads
3
Messages
331
Reaction score
761
Location
Georgia
Vehicle(s)
Mazdaspeed3, M3
Occupation
EHS
I changed the oil in my 2021 at just over 1000 miles this weekend. The oil smelled like pre-mix fuel for lawn eqpt. I'm going to change it again at 5000 and send a sample out. I'm not really alarmed at this time.

Side note, is everyone sure that the "priming" noise is actually the fuel pump? It did it when I was changing the oil and it sounded like it came from the EGR valve area.
 

Zaph

Well-Known Member
Joined
Nov 28, 2019
Threads
11
Messages
772
Reaction score
2,126
Location
Wisconsin
Vehicle(s)
2019 Ranger, A whole garage full of motorcycles
Occupation
Engineer
That's what's strange about this whole thing. Some it shows up from brand new and for some it takes 10 to 15 thousand miles to show up. Mine didn't start till between 8 and 9 thousand miles!
Mine went from .5% and stayed there until 15K miles when it went up to 2.8%. I updated my original poll results.
 
  • Like
Reactions: Doc


N. J. Jim

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jim
Joined
Apr 23, 2020
Threads
0
Messages
273
Reaction score
447
Location
Vineland,N. J.
Vehicle(s)
2019 Ford Ranger Lariat
Occupation
Retired
Mine went from .5% and stayed there until 15K miles when it went up to 2.8%. I updated my original poll results.
I sent a sample off to Blackstone 4/6/21. I've been running 5/40 for 3100 miles now. I'll let you guys know what the test results are when I get them!
 

JKocot

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jim
Joined
Aug 3, 2020
Threads
12
Messages
359
Reaction score
774
Location
Montpelier, VA
Vehicle(s)
2020 Ranger Lariat SCrew FX4, 2018 Explorer Sport
Occupation
Senior Systems Engineer/Former Marine
I have no idea what to think. Hopefully they are being honest and this fixes it. I will give it 500 miles and see where it is at.
So I put 200 miles on the truck since I got it back last week. Checked the oil this morning - reeks of gas and the level on the dipstick was at the top hole. Drove to work (28 miles), let it sit until lunch time - checked the oil again - level still at the top hole and very strong fuel smell. Called my service advisor and told her and she wants me to bring it back tomorrow.
 
Last edited:

JKocot

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jim
Joined
Aug 3, 2020
Threads
12
Messages
359
Reaction score
774
Location
Montpelier, VA
Vehicle(s)
2020 Ranger Lariat SCrew FX4, 2018 Explorer Sport
Occupation
Senior Systems Engineer/Former Marine
So I put 100 miles on the truck since I got it back last week. Checked the oil this morning - reeks of gas and the level on the dipstick was at the top hole. Drove to work (28 miles), let it sit until lunch time - checked the oil again - level still at the top hole and very strong fuel smell. Called my service advisor and told her and she wants me to bring it back tomorrow.
So here's a stupid question (I was in the Marines - where they always said there are no stupid questions - just stupid people) when you all check the oil level are you inserting the dipstick in all the way until it clicks into place? That is what I have always done. I work with someone who says you are supposed to push the dipstick in until just before it clicks to check the level. You push it in until it clicks to make sure it doesn't fallout and to seal the tube from dirt. I think he is a dipshit, but wanted to see what everyone here thinks.
 

N. J. Jim

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jim
Joined
Apr 23, 2020
Threads
0
Messages
273
Reaction score
447
Location
Vineland,N. J.
Vehicle(s)
2019 Ford Ranger Lariat
Occupation
Retired
So here's a stupid question (I was in the Marines - where they always said there are no stupid questions - just stupid people) when you all check the oil level are you inserting the dipstick in all the way until it clicks into place? That is what I have always done. I work with someone who says you are supposed to push the dipstick in until just before it clicks to check the level. You push it in until it clicks to make sure it doesn't fallout and to seal the tube from dirt. I think he is a dipshit, but wanted to see what everyone here thinks.
I push it in all the way till it clicks. Have done that with every vehicle I've owned, don't know why the Ranger would be any different!!
 

jblc

Well-Known Member
First Name
JB
Joined
Nov 15, 2020
Threads
75
Messages
749
Reaction score
644
Location
USA
Vehicle(s)
2021 XLT FX2 supercab
That goes back to a question I was wondering: what's the best way to check oil level?
There were a few methods on this thread;nthe manual doesn't specify whether the vehicle should have been running recently, just that it should have been shut off for >10 mins.

Has anyone checked oil after leaving the car sitting for days? If so, has the oil level increased or stayed the same from these top-hole readings?
 

WhyNot21

Well-Known Member
First Name
Mike
Joined
Apr 10, 2021
Threads
7
Messages
578
Reaction score
1,720
Location
IL
Vehicle(s)
2021 Ranger Lariat FX4 Screw 501A ...
Occupation
EE
Can someone please quickly summarize the severity of this issue for me?

Oil Dilution was a huge issue with the 5th gen CR-V, when it appeared with the 1.5l turbo in 2017. Honda was blowing it off as "normal" for direct injection engines. However, some people had it so bad that they were pulling out almost 6 qts of oil/gas when doing oil changes. It only takes 3.7 qts, so not a little problem. Honda finally came out with a TSB that addressed it, but originally only for colder areas. I believe they finally opened it up to everyone. The fix has pretty much mitigated the issue, or something was done behind the scenes during production of newer model years. The OD issue was the main reason we bought my wife a CX-5 Signature in 2019.

So, is what's happening here affect just a minority who are in cold climates with short commutes? Or, is it a larger issue that follows no apparent pattern? Also, from following the CR-V issue, I know Blackstone is not the best place to send your oil for monitoring it, due to the method they use.

Is there a thread on here specific to oil analysis results?

Thanks, sorry for being a Noob!
 

the5Gmartian

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jesse
Joined
May 29, 2020
Threads
20
Messages
413
Reaction score
1,151
Location
Washington, D.C.
Vehicle(s)
2020 Ford Ranger Lariat FX4
Occupation
U.S. Navy
I know this is going to stir up a hornet's nest, but I posted this in a catch can thread and it fits even better with this one. Doesn't Ford do super thorough and vigorous testing for 150,000+ miles? If this was as big of an issue (or an issue at all) wouldn't Ford have found that in their testing? It just seems like some people are freaking out about hypothetical scenarios. If Ford can't be trusted to test their powertrains then maybe we all bought the wrong truck? (I love my truck btw and I am not worried about its reliability)
 
  • Like
Reactions: Doc

N. J. Jim

Well-Known Member
First Name
Jim
Joined
Apr 23, 2020
Threads
0
Messages
273
Reaction score
447
Location
Vineland,N. J.
Vehicle(s)
2019 Ford Ranger Lariat
Occupation
Retired
I know this is going to stir up a hornet's nest, but I posted this in a catch can thread and it fits even better with this one. Doesn't Ford do super thorough and vigorous testing for 150,000+ miles? If this was as big of an issue (or an issue at all) wouldn't Ford have found that in their testing? It just seems like some people are freaking out about hypothetical scenarios. If Ford can't be trusted to test their powertrains then maybe we all bought the wrong truck? (I love my truck btw and I am not worried about its reliability)
Some have reason to worry, when your draining out an extra quart or more of oil at change time, not normal!
 

HenryMac

Well-Known Member
First Name
John
Joined
Sep 14, 2019
Threads
66
Messages
2,783
Reaction score
5,360
Location
Colorado
Vehicle(s)
2019 SuperCab XL - FX4 - Magnetic - Rocksliders
Occupation
Mech. Engineer - Retired
Can someone please quickly summarize the severity of this issue for me?

Oil Dilution was a huge issue with the 5th gen CR-V, when it appeared with the 1.5l turbo in 2017. Honda was blowing it off as "normal" for direct injection engines. However, some people had it so bad that they were pulling out almost 6 qts of oil/gas when doing oil changes. It only takes 3.7 qts, so not a little problem. Honda finally came out with a TSB that addressed it, but originally only for colder areas. I believe they finally opened it up to everyone. The fix has pretty much mitigated the issue, or something was done behind the scenes during production of newer model years. The OD issue was the main reason we bought my wife a CX-5 Signature in 2019.

So, is what's happening here affect just a minority who are in cold climates with short commutes? Or, is it a larger issue that follows no apparent pattern? Also, from following the CR-V issue, I know Blackstone is not the best place to send your oil for monitoring it, due to the method they use.

Is there a thread on here specific to oil analysis results?

Thanks, sorry for being a Noob!
You're in the largest thread on the topic.

To find others go to the search function and type in "Fuel_Oil" and click titles only..
Sponsored

 
 








Top