California to ban small gas engines by 2024

[outdoorphotog]

This state has weirder woke priorities by the day

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[KNI]

This reminds me.. When I was a kid we build these by ourself. I remember that I made a 5 foot wide plane, carved all the struts, leading edge slats and support beams and coated it with silk paper. Had a three feet rubber band and it flew nicely for few hundred yards. And this was normal stuff back then.

Nowdays people just buy crap like this from store for their kids. It's used once and trashed afterwards.

 

[THLONE]

Good idea. Komifornia air will be sooo nice that more people will move there.

 

[Doc]

Good idea. Komifornia air will be sooo nice that more people will move there.

Californication …

 

[Iowa Guy]

I hope no other states get Californicated .

soo, they can't supply their current power needs, and have rolling black outs, now they want to lead the nation in electric cars, and get rid of all small engines? good luck powering that.

 

[THLONE]

Landscape will be gone when KA runs out of water and elc.

 

[Trigganometry]

With all these catalytic converters they’re stealing I see a new business endeavor starting. Make your weed wacker green with a simple mod! ?

 

[Spiritfish]

I agree change can be great BUT I feel they are pushing it too hard too fast. My son loves his electric lawnmower. He has a suburb lot. My daughter has 4.5 acres an an electric mower for that is more than an entry level car. People are going to go broke replacing everything at once, an in most cases replacing something that's working well.

I don't know if the order bans their use or their sale. If it just bans their sale that's a little better since every piece of lawn equipment will need to be replaced at some point (except for 60's cub garden tractors, those run forever) so it won't be a killer all at once on a family budget.

This current push to green energy is too much too fast IMO. There's already summer power shortages without half the country plugging their car in every night. The technology isn't good enough yet or affordable.

I watched a special on Smithsonian an they showed the "Nevada 1" solar power plant. That channel loves green energy an pushes the green agenda. Nevada 1 is the size of a conventional power plant but only produces one seventh of the power of one. It had to be hard for Smithsonian to admit that. That's in the southwest desert, the best location in the US. Image that plant in Maine or North Dakota, people would freeze. I live near Cleveland an in December it's only sunny for about 5 days an the sun set's at 5.

I'm not against green energy but I want them to pump the brakes on this massive shift we're not remotely ready for.

It may seem like a "push" and "too fast" to some, but the fact is we're way behind the curve at this point. We should have been actively pursuing a more environmentally kind lifestyle 50 years ago. We have wasted quite a bit of time fighting inevitability...so a few quick steps in the right direction are a small price to pay. While you and I might not see or feel a benefit I assure you, our grandchildren will...and they need a world to live in too.
I am anxiously awaiting an EV Ranger 4X4.

 

[Blmpkn]

Doesn't make fuxk all of a difference banning small engines If people can produce unlimited filthy offspring.

 

[Trigganometry]

It may seem like a "push" and "too fast" to some, but the fact is we're way behind the curve at this point. We should have been actively pursuing a more environmentally kind lifestyle 50 years ago. We have wasted quite a bit of time fighting inevitability...so a few quick steps in the right direction are a small price to pay. While you and I might not see or feel a benefit I assure you, our grandchildren will...and they need a world to live in too.
I am anxiously awaiting an EV Ranger 4X4.

Sometimes the “solutions” cause more damage than what we’re currently doing. Do a search on EV battery production for instance.
It takes 500,000 gallons of water to mine one metric ton of lithium for car batteries. That is a LOT of water. That gives you almost exactly 2 electric cars.



That says nothing about what’s involved to recycle once lifecycle is done…. Something to think about. That’s only one example, there’s so many more. Rare earth metals is another. Mind boggling destruction to the environment

 

[NOVA_Ranger]

The land of fruits and nuts. Just keep the BS there… haha

 

[Big Blue]

Just in...
Picture of a California CARB compliant lawn mower.....

Wait! What about the methane gas it gives off?

 

[2020FX4]

I saw this today at ACE hardware........

 

[mtsoxfan]

Ive seen statements about how many gallons it takes to produce XXX. But is that water lost? Just saw a news clips on Vegas, and how they recycle water to 0% lost. Recycle all water. Maybe it was only one casino/hotel, but IIRC, it was all of Vegas.
But Holy Sh**, the water police are serious about water waste. If you water your lawn and it dribbles onto sidewalk, you are fined for wasting...

 

[Langwilliams]

We have wasted quite a bit of time fighting inevitability...so a few quick steps in the right direction are a small price to pay.

What's going to charge all those batteries? We've made steps for a long time. When I first started driving cars were getting single digit MPG an smog was pouring out the tailpipe.

. But is that water lost? Just saw a news clips on Vegas, and how they recycle water to 0% lost. Recycle all water. Maybe it was only one casino/hotel, but IIRC, it was all of Vegas.

No one ever looks at the carbon footprint of all that mining, transporting the raw materials an the industrial process of making the batteries. Look at the size of those grinding machines an dump trucks used in the mining process.

Here's a quote from "energy solution providers":

Unfortunately, manufacturing your solar panels requires melting silica rock at extremely high temperatures to produce silicon using coal-fired electricity plants, which does have an environmental impact.

However, there is an upside—as solar panel manufacturing has progressed, studies have shown that the environmental impact has shrunk: “For every doubling of installed photovoltaic capacity, energy use decreases by 12% and greenhouse gas footprints by 17 to 24%.” The more efficient solar panels become, the less impact their manufacturing has on overall greenhouse gas contributions.


IMO if you're really serious about non polluting energy you have to re-vist nuclear power. The plants running today were built 50 years ago so I'm sure the technology is better now. Just don't build one in an earthquake or tsunami zone.

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