Honest Unleashed Tuning review

[CO2Ranger]

Not sure if any of you guys care or not, but I found out recently that a Ford tech can use IDF to turn off the adaptive learning strategy on the transmission. I asked Torrie if you could do that in a tune and he said he would get back to me. He just got back to me and asked me what to follow us using. So I'm guessing he's going to send me a file with that turned off to try. I'll report back if that's the case and let you know how it shifts with no adaptive learning.

I'm extremely curious how this turns out. Can't wait to get your report back.

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[landiscarrier]

Not sure if any of you guys care or not, but I found out recently that a Ford tech can use IDF to turn off the adaptive learning strategy on the transmission. I asked Torrie if you could do that in a tune and he said he would get back to me. He just got back to me and asked me what to follow us using. So I'm guessing he's going to send me a file with that turned off to try. I'll report back if that's the case and let you know how it shifts with no adaptive learning.

WOW that would be great if he can! Still loving the latest Torquerules tune from Torrie!

 

[Colo_Ranger]

Your A Total Asshole aren't you? No need to answer your posts on this forum prove it!

*you're

and you seem to be the one who is trying to have an argument here. This isn't an airport, you don't need to announce your departure. Yeah, I'm being a jackass. You seem to have a point to prove. People mention warranty because I don't have a team of lawyers on retainer and its important to manage expectations. Is the tune at fault for a failure? Probably not. Is Ford going to bury me through their legal team if they don't want to cover the repair? Most likely.

 

[TORQUERULES]

 

[TORQUERULES]

Got the updated files. I am going to try it someday soon. Load it after the transmission is up to temperature and try it. I will report back.

I really did not want to be on here anymore, but I thought that if this worked it might benefit some. There are Mustang guys, F-150 guys, and one Ranger guy I found on an F-150 site doing it and the reports are it works well. Could be a cluster, but it is worth trying. If it was going to hurt anything, I doubt Ford would give techs the option to disable it. I am sure the option is there for diagnosis so they can eliminate the possibility of adaptive learning being the cause of any issues since it can cause the transmission to act wonky.

 

[Colo_Ranger]

Got the updated files. I am going to try it someday soon. Load it after the transmission is up to temperature and try it. I will report back.

I really did not want to be on here anymore, but I thought that if this worked it might benefit some. There are Mustang guys, F-150 guys, and one Ranger guy I found on an F-150 site doing it and the reports are it works well. Could be a cluster, but it is worth trying. If it was going to hurt anything, I doubt Ford would give techs the option to disable it. I am sure the option is there for diagnosis so they can eliminate the possibility of adaptive learning being the cause of any issues since it can cause the transmission to act wonky.

I appreciate you coming back to fill us in. I've watched this thread closely. I will probably getting this when my warranty runs out, to replace the FP Tune.

 

[landiscarrier]

Got the updated files. I am going to try it someday soon. Load it after the transmission is up to temperature and try it. I will report back.

I really did not want to be on here anymore, but I thought that if this worked it might benefit some. There are Mustang guys, F-150 guys, and one Ranger guy I found on an F-150 site doing it and the reports are it works well. Could be a cluster, but it is worth trying. If it was going to hurt anything, I doubt Ford would give techs the option to disable it. I am sure the option is there for diagnosis so they can eliminate the possibility of adaptive learning being the cause of any issues since it can cause the transmission to act wonky.

Glad you're still here! My trucks runs and shifts the best it ever has and it wouldn't be that way without the time you and Torrie put into it. I for one appreciate it!

 

[Racket]

Not sure if any of you guys care or not, but I found out recently that a Ford tech can use IDF to turn off the adaptive learning strategy on the transmission. I asked Torrie if you could do that in a tune and he said he would get back to me. He just got back to me and asked me what to follow us using. So I'm guessing he's going to send me a file with that turned off to try. I'll report back if that's the case and let you know how it shifts with no adaptive learning.

I'm curious the pros and cons of this?

 

[D Fresh]

Thanks for coming back and letting us know.

Also curious on how this works out.

 

[TORQUERULES]

I had a chance to load this and drive a little and I have to say that eliminating the adaptive learning has made a very positive difference. Gear engagements are quick and on time and there is not any hunting. It is shifting as it is supposed to. Gonna drive it a few more days and report back. Not sure if the shifting from 2-3, 3-4, and 4-5 needs cleaned up where we worked on trying to overcome weird shifting in those gears (which is common with the 10R80), but for now it looks like it might be fine. It would be nice if the adaptive silliness was the issue all along. I will try to report back sometime next week.

 

[DranC]

I had my dealer install the Ford Performance tune a month or so ago. I've not experienced any other tune so I cannot compare. My Ranger though is a different truck after the tune was applied. The shifting is way better! When I stomp the gas she'll shit and git, lol

 

[TORQUERULES]

I have put about 100 or so miles on it so far and just got a chance to try this with a cold transmission and I do believe the weird slippy/laggy cold shifts on the first run thought the gears is programmed into the adaptive learning and/or the torque management is disabled/lessened when adaptive learning is turned off because with it off the cold first shifts in those gears are very aggressive. More so than most people would like. Would be fine for racing, etc. where this is not a concern.

Warm, all the shifts are aggressive without the adaptive learning and again probably more than most would like, fine by me though.

Not sure if the cold shifts can now be programed to engage differently on that first run-through, but I may work on that. Back to the drawing board, but not giving up.

You can try it if you like, but just be ready to switch back if you do not like it.

 

[TORQUERULES]

Even Torrie admits he is not sure the changes he made turned adaptive off, but I can tell that it did. Unlike when you load a tune and the transmission has to relearn all over and it wildly inconsistent with shifts for a while, this was consistent right from the get-go and did not vary. Tuning those first few gears is maybe worth a try to see if the harshness could be fixed. I am not sure what parameters to even suggest working on to be honest. Maybe timing and pressure? I do know that the transmission programing is set up from Ford to use pump pressure to determine shifts so that the trans fluid is flowing correctly. Maybe without adaptive slowing these shifts when cold, the shifts are now getting increased pressure from the transmission pump trying to move colder fluid. Who knows.

I am just tired of messing with this transmission trying to get it to behave the way it should Ford should be ashamed of the programming on this. Not to mention the mechanical issues such as the CDF clutch drum, etc. Frustrating.

 

[TORQUERULES]

No matter what, we now know that tuning can turn adaptive off. At the very least this would be good for a racer.

 

[TORQUERULES]

I have another tune file to try with those first few shifts back in line with the others (we had tweaked them to try to fix the common laggy cold shift issue with 10R80s), so we will see how that goes with the adaptive turned off. I won't get around to loading it until late this weekend or Monday.

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