New 10R80 TSB - 25-2134

[Blueshift]

Looks like it's dated at April 16th, 2025. I haven't looked through it yet to see what the changes are but they listed the reason for the update was to "update the Part List and Service Procedure". Still looks like the CDF drum issue is limited to Rangers built before August 16th, 2022.

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[IdahoRanger]

Thanks, last one I saw was 25-2024

 

[airline tech]

Nothing really changed but they added some guidance videos (click on the blue box-Lower RH corner is a link to the videos)
I did a quick (compare)

They also added a (Automated - Guided Test) to FDRS

5. Select and run the FDRS Transmission Clutch Circuit Leak Test, follow FDRS screen prompts and directions to proceed.

So, they updated the TSB to add some extra guidance (technician help) and also added an easier option to pick up and read the results via the FDRS software programming.
I will have to check my scan tools recent updates to see if this was added externally or is this a FDRS only (Test) for now and updates will come later.

It's more of a curiosity thing for me as I would like to do the actual test on my own, just to see the results, it should not be hard to piece together the test adaptor and hose.

It would be nice if the Ford TSBs would have a (I) bar to the left of the paragraph to indicate (highlight) this line has been revised from the prior publication of revision.
This is how the aircraft maintenance documents are published.
It makes it easier to (quickly) see what was revised in the document.

 

[fjwlobo]

I'm not sure if I should consider myself lucky ? that my build is 10/20 and I'm within the period covered in the TSB ?.

OR

Pray ? that it will hold together (until I retire ? at the end of 2026) and can take it to the dealership to get it replaced without needing to get a rental. It has some of the issues in the TSB ? (moreso when its cold ?) and it's been getting worse even though I have less than 20K on the odometer.

I did purchase a 10 year / 100K ESP though ?, which will more than likely save me a lot of money ?.

 

[jflogerzi]

I'm not sure if I should consider myself lucky ? that my build is 10/20 and I'm within the period covered in the TSB ?.

OR

Pray ? that it will hold together (until I retire ? at the end of 2026) and can take it to the dealership to get it replaced without needing to get a rental. It has some of the issues in the TSB ? (moreso when its cold ?) and it's been getting worse even though I have less than 20K on the odometer.

I did purchase a 10 year / 100K ESP though ?, which will more than likely save me a lot of money ?.

I got mine done within 2 days after they ordered which got to the dealer in 10 days.

 

[Stein2424]

I'm not sure if I should consider myself lucky ? that my build is 10/20 and I'm within the period covered in the TSB ?.

OR

Pray ? that it will hold together (until I retire ? at the end of 2026) and can take it to the dealership to get it replaced without needing to get a rental. It has some of the issues in the TSB ? (moreso when its cold ?) and it's been getting worse even though I have less than 20K on the odometer.

I did purchase a 10 year / 100K ESP though ?, which will more than likely save me a lot of money ?.

How do you know that it needs any work done on the trans? I feel like the first few bullets in the TSB can describe every ranger ever built.

Mine has a little under 30k miles and if I don't let it warm up on a cold day it will hold gear then do a hard shift. Outside of that, sometimes it will give you a hard shift from changing speeds abruptly, but nothing like when its cold. More so just that you notice it. To my understanding, everyings crappy 10r80 performs this way to some extent.

 

[VAMike]

How do you know that it needs any work done on the trans? I feel like the first few bullets in the TSB can describe every ranger ever built.

Mine has a little under 30k miles and if I don't let it warm up on a cold day it will hold gear then do a hard shift. Outside of that, sometimes it will give you a hard shift from changing speeds abruptly, but nothing like when its cold. More so just that you notice it. To my understanding, everyings crappy 10r80 performs this way to some extent.

Pretty much. That's why for 6 years they've been jerking us around with arbitrary "test drive" analysis leading to random fixes (I've had new software loaded and the valve body rebuilt, some people get rebuilds, some people get told it's normal, it's been all over). Now the TSB has a test procedure (although it hilariously calls for a tool that Ford no longer sells, they've now updated it to use 3rd party test gear). In theory this means there's a way to determine whether a specific transmission is actually failing, and as you suggest pretty much anyone with a ranger should probably get that test done. Scuttlebutt says some dealers won't even do the test unless they can "test drive" to verify an issue (because a 5 minute drive will certainly replicate an issue you tell them is intermittant), but hopefully you don't get one of those dealers. The TSB has a repair process but it seems like a lot of dealers are just replacing the transmission.

Full disclosure: my ranger is currently sitting at the dealer waiting for a transmission to be delivered this week. I can only assume it failed the test procedure and Ford isn't just handing out transmissions like Oprah handing out her favorite things. If I didn't have an extended warranty I'd be screwed, even though ford tried multiple times to fix the thing while it was still under the 5/60 warranty. If I were you, I'd tell the dealership it shifts harshly during cold starts in colder weather and try to get the test procedure done while you're still in your 5/60k powertrain warranty. Don't just rely on the assometer to decide if it's "normal" since it seems by the time you can be sure it's broken (warning lights, etc) it's a total loss.

And no, we still don't know what the actual failure rate is. Maybe the vast majority of trucks are fine, maybe most of them need a major repair, no way to know.

 

[Wmiller203]

How do you know that it needs any work done on the trans? I feel like the first few bullets in the TSB can describe every ranger ever built.

Mine has a little under 30k miles and if I don't let it warm up on a cold day it will hold gear then do a hard shift. Outside of that, sometimes it will give you a hard shift from changing speeds abruptly, but nothing like when its cold. More so just that you notice it. To my understanding, everyings crappy 10r80 performs this way to some extent.

Hard shifts in the cold is the beginning sign of CDF issues. If you are under warranty, I would take it in since they have a new testing procedure.

 

[Stein2424]

Good to know. My factory warranty just expired, but luckily I have an extended pier train warrant. Truck doesn’t even have 30k miles on it yet.

 

[RedlandRanger]

Hard shifts in the cold is the beginning sign of CDF issues. If you are under warranty, I would take it in since they have a new testing procedure.

My truck has had one or two rough shifts when cold since it was brand new. Currently at 53k with no issues. I always let it warm up a bit and am easy on the throttle until it warms up.

 

[WolfgangVTS]

Just a few questions out or curiosity…how many of you, that have taken your Ranger in for a transmission diagnostic, had to pay for the diagnostic? And if so, how much? I literally just took mine in this morning to have it looked at due to some rough shifts and an intermittent delay going from reverse into drive, and they hit me with a $200+ diagnostic fee. They led me to believe, when I spoke to the service manager on the phone, that since mine is still under the power train warranty and there is a TSB for the issues I’m having, that everything would be covered. Apparently not. Should I look for a different dealer to check it or should I just bite the bullet and pay it?

 

[Stevedbvik1]

Just a few questions out or curiosity…how many of you, that have taken your Ranger in for a transmission diagnostic, had to pay for the diagnostic? And if so, how much? I literally just took mine in this morning to have it looked at due to some rough shifts and an intermittent delay going from reverse into drive, and they hit me with a $200+ diagnostic fee. They led me to believe, when I spoke to the service manager on the phone, that since mine is still under the power train warranty and there is a TSB for the issues I’m having, that everything would be covered. Apparently not. Should I look for a different dealer to check it or should I just bite the bullet and pay it?

I never had to pay for the multiple TSB visits that I had before having the transmission replaced under warranty. Ask them if they confirm an issue using the TSB guidance if you will be refunded for the diagnostic fee

 

[WolfgangVTS]

I never had to pay for the multiple TSB visits that I had before having the transmission replaced under warranty. Ask them if they confirm an issue using the TSB guidance if you will be refunded for the diagnostic fee

They will not. Apparently it is separate from the warranty. I even had a copy of the TSB in my hand and gave it to them when I got there. Now I will say this, my local dealership has gone through an owner change and things there are no longer as customer friendly as they used to be. I have a few other local Ford dealers that I’m going to call to see what they say.

I thank you for your reply.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

They will not. Apparently it is separate from the warranty. I even had a copy of the TSB in my hand and gave it to them when I got there. Now I will say this, my local dealership has gone through an owner change and things there are no longer as customer friendly as they used to be. I have a few other local Ford dealers that I’m going to call to see what they say.

I thank you for your reply.

I would call Ford about this and report them. Sounds like BS to me.

 

[WolfgangVTS]

I would call Ford about this and report them. Sounds like BS to me.

I have an appointment scheduled next Wednesday with a different dealership about 35 minutes from where I’m at. They also have a transmission specialist onsite. The guy I spoke with told me that since my Ranger is still under powertrain warranty, and if there is no external damage to the transmission, then the diagnostic fee will be covered under the warranty.
And I might take your advice and report my local dealership…but one thing is for certain, I’ll never do business with them ever again.

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