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With the stock oil filter being where it is, and the amount of mileage I drive, will relocating it from the wheel well with an extension kit or custom fab’d part void warranty?

Am I asking for trouble if I bring this thing in for tires or an alignment and they see the oil filter relocated?

Trying to stay within warranty but don’t want to create a headache if something fails unrelated to the filter.
Curious... have you, yourself, changed the oil on your truck yet? I thought it sounded like a pain in the ass when we bought our 2019 SuperCab 4 years ago. I've since changed the oil 9 times. Every time, I'm impressed with how easy it is.
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Curious... have you, yourself, changed the oil on your truck yet? I thought it sounded like a pain in the ass when we bought our 2019 SuperCab 4 years ago. I've since changed the oil 9 times. Every time, I'm impressed with how easy it is.
Yes…I have a lift and tires (Tremor). I had to remove a skid plate and there’s a bunch of things to remove to pull back the rubber covering over by the oil filter area. Plus, with larger tires, I don’t think I could easily get to the filter without removing the driver side wheel.
 

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Yes…I have a lift and tires (Tremor). I had to remove a skid plate and there’s a bunch of things to remove to pull back the rubber covering over by the oil filter area. Plus, with larger tires, I don’t think I could easily get to the filter without removing the driver side wheel.
I'm curious of what skid plate you removed? Also on my 2019 I had the Old Man EMU lift with 33's and was still able to change the oil and filter without removing the tires
 

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Yes…I have a lift and tires (Tremor). I had to remove a skid plate and there’s a bunch of things to remove to pull back the rubber covering over by the oil filter area. Plus, with larger tires, I don’t think I could easily get to the filter without removing the driver side wheel.
I have a Tremor and I don't even have to turn the wheel to access the filter. It is a straight shot to the filter over the tire with a long extension and filter socket.
 

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This tells me you have owned vehicles with shitty oil filter locations. I have seen way better designs for the oil filter location. That said Ford did makeup and add the nice drip tray
Yep, I have had some vehicles with shitty filter locations. The worst being my first truck a 73 Dodge pickup with a slant 6. Filter was easy to get to but it was mounted vertically upside down. As soon as you cracked it loose oil poured down the side of the block and onto the cross member. The best was my Ecoboost Mustang. The filter is mounted vertically at the back of the block and is totally unencumbered. No spillage on removal and can be fully prefilled and installed without spillage. Every other vehicle is somewhere between those extremes. The Ranger is closer to the easy side than most of my other vehicles.
 


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I pay the dealership to do it. Shame on me.
 
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I'm curious of what skid plate you removed? Also on my 2019 I had the Old Man EMU lift with 33's and was still able to change the oil and filter without removing the tires
Whatever this piece is called, I’m assuming it’s a skid plate but it prevents the oil from draining out easily (it gets all over this plate if you just drain it normally). Maybe my driveway is too slanted?

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Whatever this piece is called, I’m assuming it’s a skid plate but it prevents the oil from draining out easily (it gets all over this plate if you just drain it normally). Maybe my driveway is too slanted?

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Ah yes, the plate for the steer axle of I recall. Yeah you are just going to have to deal with that. Also it's much easier than the lovely aftermarket skid plates that are much bigger and don't have an access hole.
 
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I have a Tremor and I don't even have to turn the wheel to access the filter. It is a straight shot to the filter over the tire with a long extension and filter socket.
Interesting. Most other vehicles I’ve had the oil filter is just a can sitting there by the oil pan. Unscrew and replace. I may invest in an extension and filter socket for this vehicle. The others I can do with a rubber grip wrench or just gloves.
 

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In the USA, the mfg would have to prove your mod was the cause of a problem that requires warranty repairs. They cannot just blanket void a warranty. The burden of proof is on them as well.
 

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In the USA, the mfg would have to prove your mod was the cause of a problem that requires warranty repairs. They cannot just blanket void a warranty. The burden of proof is on them as well.
Per the law that is true but it is a whole lot easier for them to claim a mod caused a failure than for you to refute that claim. Even if you were to win in court it very likely will cost you more than what the actual repair would cost.

If you were to spend some time on the Ecoboost Mustang forum there have been a lot of blown engines. Folks tend to push them harder than here resulting in broken blocks, broken cranks and cracked heads. Many folks with a lot of obvious mods have had the repairs covered under warranty and a lot have had the warranty claim denied. There have been some totally stock engines that have blown and I don't recall ever hearing of a warranty claim being denied on a stock engine.

A remote oil filter should not impact the warranty. BUT, if it is poorly designed or installed improperly it could restrict oil flow resulting in catastrophic engine failure. Under those situations a warranty claim could be denied.

It's all about how risk adverse you are. Is the perceived convenience of a remote filter worth the risk of paying out of pocket if you have a failure?

That all being said I have a remote oil filter on my 68 Barracuda. I got tired of oil running all over the headers every time I did an oil change. It was a no brainer for me since warranty wasn't in the picture.
 

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Per the law that is true but it is a whole lot easier for them to claim a mod caused a failure than for you to refute that claim. Even if you were to win in court it very likely will cost you more than what the actual repair would cost.

If you were to spend some time on the Ecoboost Mustang forum there have been a lot of blown engines. Folks tend to push them harder than here resulting in broken blocks, broken cranks and cracked heads. Many folks with a lot of obvious mods have had the repairs covered under warranty and a lot have had the warranty claim denied. There have been some totally stock engines that have blown and I don't recall ever hearing of a warranty claim being denied on a stock engine.

A remote oil filter should not impact the warranty. BUT, if it is poorly designed or installed improperly it could restrict oil flow resulting in catastrophic engine failure. Under those situations a warranty claim could be denied.

It's all about how risk adverse you are. Is the perceived convenience of a remote filter worth the risk of paying out of pocket if you have a failure?

That all being said I have a remote oil filter on my 68 Barracuda. I got tired of oil running all over the headers every time I did an oil change. It was a no brainer for me since warranty wasn't in the picture.
I've only had to deal with it once and they initially balked, but when I pointed out the law and what they are required to do, they did the repair. My mods on that vehicle were not involved in the problem. The obviously dont have to repair your mods, or any damage caused by the mods.
 

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I've only had to deal with it once and they initially balked, but when I pointed out the law and what they are required to do, they did the repair. My mods on that vehicle were not involved in the problem. The obviously dont have to repair your mods, or any damage caused by the mods.
It is not unheard of for a dealer to see a vehicle that is modified and just not want to work on it for liability reasons. This is not denying warranty it's just not wanting to get involved.
 
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Guess I’m not doing this then. My oil change (with Amsoil 5W-30 and a WIX Premium filter) cost about the same as doing it at the dealer and I was hoping for a quicker experience.

They don’t make things as easily serviceable as the older models.
 

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Guess I’m not doing this then. My oil change (with Amsoil 5W-30 and a WIX Premium filter) cost about the same as doing it at the dealer and I was hoping for a quicker experience.

They don’t make things as easily serviceable as the older models.
My experience as well, and I enjoy(ed) working on my vehicles. Not getting used oil all over then not fussing with disposing it at nearly - or barely over the cost of DIY was the clincher.
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