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Yeah. Really unfortunate that they are doing this. While I do love having a truck, if my oil level rises after two weeks, depending on their solutions, I may be selling to carvana and looking for something different. Was thinking about an f150 but I think I’m done with Ford. No idea what I would get though, I enjoy having a truck but something small and can kinda tow would be great. Just gonna miss having a bed.
Yeah it is ashame their handling it like they are. I really liked my truck to but got tired of dealing with Ford's denial and got rid of mine, didn't want to but couldn't put up with their bulls""t any longer, GOOD LUCK with what ever you decide!!
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Yeah. Really unfortunate that they are doing this. While I do love having a truck, if my oil level rises after two weeks, depending on their solutions, I may be selling to carvana and looking for something different. Was thinking about an f150 but I think I’m done with Ford. No idea what I would get though, I enjoy having a truck but something small and can kinda tow would be great. Just gonna miss having a bed.
If you do move on then stay away from anything direct injected and turbocharged. Inherent issue with all manufacturers. That being said I’m still confident in the 2.3. And IF mine ends up with this issue I’ll figure out the best way to accommodate it.
 

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Got another call, they Expedited the process with Ford corporate and will be preforming a high pressure fuel pump leak test and injector leak test. Should have more news tomorrow. Fingers crossed they can figure it out and the fix they preform sticks.
Well, everything came back with no leaks or anything. Ford suggested to him that it could be if I take very short trips frequently. Only solution they gave is they would do an oil change (I pay for of course) then they scribe the dipstick and I bring it back in 1k miles. Ford believes there is no issue. Even after the tech said it was overfull by half a quart.
At least they ran the test for you. I could kind of agree it isn't leaky injectors or the hpfp in my case. My truck sits for a week or two sometimes and I've checked the oil level and it doesn't rise when the truck isn't being used. It only rises during road trips which could lend itself to the piston rings not being seating yet that another person mentioned.

This thread from the bronco6g forum was an interesting read. Their fuel in oil percentage results did go down when tested at 5k miles.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...oil-report-2-3l-engine-2500-5000-miles.24068/
 

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At least they ran the test for you. I could kind of agree it isn't leaky injectors or the hpfp in my case. My truck sits for a week or two sometimes and I've checked the oil level and it doesn't rise when the truck isn't being used. It only rises during road trips which could lend itself to the piston rings not being seating yet that another person mentioned.

This thread from the bronco6g forum was an interesting read. Their fuel in oil percentage results did go down when tested at 5k miles.

https://www.bronco6g.com/forum/thre...oil-report-2-3l-engine-2500-5000-miles.24068/
Mine has 12K miles and it was at 2.8 when tested. Definitely a little high
 

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Mine has 12K miles and it was at 2.8 when tested. Definitely a little high
Did you happen to test yours before the 12k mile mark?

I sent my sample off yesterday from the initial 1960 miles on the factory oil and am curious what it shows. I'll post it up when I get the results.
 
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Yeah. Really unfortunate that they are doing this. While I do love having a truck, if my oil level rises after two weeks, depending on their solutions, I may be selling to carvana and looking for something different. Was thinking about an f150 but I think I’m done with Ford. No idea what I would get though, I enjoy having a truck but something small and can kinda tow would be great. Just gonna miss having a bed.
What are your oil analysis results.
 
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Did you happen to test yours before the 12k mile mark?

I sent my sample off yesterday from the initial 1960 miles on the factory oil and am curious what it shows. I'll post it up when I get the results.
I should have specified mileage, it was right at the 10K mark. Didn't do one before. I will say my truck had it's first oil change at 500 miles, then 5000, then 10K. So I do take care of it. 90% highway miles too.
 
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Did you happen to test yours before the 12k mile mark?

I sent my sample off yesterday from the initial 1960 miles on the factory oil and am curious what it shows. I'll post it up when I get the results.
Here are my results in case you're curious
 

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Here are my results in case you're curious
I think the 2.8% is probably “normal “ for DI turbo engines. I had sampling done by two different companies for our Honda CRV. Both stated that the DI turbo’s will run higher than NA’s for which the spec is mostly written for. But 15% plus was off the charts.
 

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I think the 2.8% is probably “normal “ for DI turbo engines. I had sampling done by two different companies for our Honda CRV. Both stated that the DI turbo’s will run higher than NA’s for which the spec is mostly written for. But 15% plus was off the charts.
What concerns me is this: “The viscosity is a little bit low, and that's because the oil was thinned by fuel.” Which begs the question, what would that oil look like if I went by the computers suggestion of intervals, which is close to 10K. Most people will follow their oil change intervals by what the computer is telling them. I change mine at 5K and it was already thinned out.
 

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Not common at all. Like all issues the people who have it, or think they might, are the ones that post. The majority that don't, don't.

How do you know? Most people do not change their own oil either so they would have no idea.
what percentage of people that do not check or change their own oil may have this issue. When people take their car to a oil change place do they smell the oil or even look at it?

My point it no one knows how bad it is and may not find out till higher mileage trucks start having issues.
 

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How do you know? Most people do not change their own oil either so they would have no idea.
what percentage of people that do not check or change their own oil may have this issue. When people take their car to a oil change place do they smell the oil or even look at it?

My point it no one knows how bad it is and may not find out till higher mileage trucks start having issues.
You have people on this thread that don't have the issue so they think it doesn't exist, it does and it's serious for some and after spending as much money as these trucks cost you shouldn't have to try and find a solution on your own, and if you can't take short trips in a vehicle what the hell good is it!!!
 

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You have people on this thread that don't have the issue so they think it doesn't exist, it does and it's serious for some and after spending as much money as these trucks cost you shouldn't have to try and find a solution on your own, and if you can't take short trips in a vehicle what the hell good is it!!!

I went through the same thing with my Focus. No it is a small problem, very few have the issue. Ford Deny deny deny and look what ended up happening there so I feel for those with issues.
 

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You have people on this thread that don't have the issue so they think it doesn't exist, it does and it's serious for some and after spending as much money as these trucks cost you shouldn't have to try and find a solution on your own, and if you can't take short trips in a vehicle what the hell good is it!!!
Don't want to srart an argument. And I don’t think anyone believes the issue doesn't exist. Yes, fuel delusion is a known issue with all direct injection engines, maybe worse with turbos. Doesn't matter who makes them. What is NOT known is exactly how bad is bad. Does anyone have any hard data on how many engines have died because of it, and how much fuel delusion the had. I believe many of the worst cases on here were eventually tied to bad injectors or HPFP issues. It also seems the the problem, if it is one, gets better once the engine is broken in and the rings properly seated. Its also been proven that that short trips exasperate the problem, winter temps and idling don’t help either. Has anyone looked at how must fuel 2% delution is in 6.2 quarts? Approximately 1.6 onces or 3 tablespoons. Hardly enogh to raise the oil level. And we are worried about 2.8%? I know some peoples is much higher, and they do have an issue. Lets not lump everyone with 3% delution together with the people who have a real issue.

This has become a panic thread and has people checking their oil level daily and making lots of money for Blackstone. We need facts, not a lot of peoples assumptions based on anecdotal experience from history.

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