Theory on fuel in oil.

[WNCblueridge]

Sorry but I ain't spending $100 on fuel (money) just to drive extra unneeded miles (time) in hopes to resolve the issue regarding Ford design flaws. At least I know the old 4 banger Frontier can handle the short trips and luckily have that option

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[WNCblueridge]

This is the way I drive my truck. I mostly drive it on weekends. I drive an hour and a half to my cabin on Friday and back on Sunday, with short trips in between. I have abut 11,000 on the truck and 3000 on my current oil change. The first pic was taken at 2000 on this oil change and the second was taken today (3000). Same level as when it was first changed and it just smells like oil

This is the way I drive my truck. I mostly drive it on weekends. I drive an hour and a half to my cabin on Friday and back on Sunday, with short trips in between. I have abut 11,000 on the truck and 3000 on my current oil change. The first pic was taken at 2000 on this oil change and the second was taken today (3000). Same level as when it was first changed and it just smells like oil.

Wish mine looked like that. Are those warm or cold readings?

 

[GitRDone]

They are making cars w/o a dipstick these days? Who is doing that?

BMW, Mercedes, and Audi have for years. On my 2006 Z4 you press a button to check oil level with the engine running. I know, makes a lot of sense.

 

[Joeiconic]

Wish mine looked like that. Are those warm or cold readings?

Cold.

 

[JustSteve]

Sorry but I ain't spending $100 on fuel (money) just to drive extra unneeded miles (time) in hopes to resolve the issue regarding Ford design flaws. At least I know the old 4 banger Frontier can handle the short trips and luckily have that option

I drive 33 miles to work. Still fuel in oil.

 

[txquailguy]

So, I drive like a grandpa, cuz, I am a grandpa. I try to hypermile it but fail miserably
as this truck I own, seems to suck gas. But, I don't have an oil maker.
So, for those who say you need to WOT all the time otherwise you'll have the gas in
oil issue, your full of it.

I'm a grandpa too....doesn't mean I'm driving like I'm dead there grampy.....I have made many comments on the "fuel in oil" issue and it seemed for a time that folks who were babying there Ranger's might be contributing to the problem. I think we are past that now, but I drive mine WOT everyday cuz I LOVE IT!!!
Live a little bro and put the hammer down on that thing....lol

 

[THLONE]

I drive like an old codger, cause I are one, unless there is some azzhole trying to get in my way, then I show the Horsepower. I dont have any problems with the dipstick reading. I suspect the testing with your nose. How accurate is your nose? Has it been verified that your nose can smell the difference between gas and oil? Me thinks that it is much ado about nothing.

 

[puckdodger]

They are making cars w/o a dipstick these days? Who is doing that?

BMW, a dozen years ago at least...I don't think that model had turn signals either, typical BMW LOL

 

[Dgc333]

Has it been verified that your nose can smell the difference between gas and oil? Me thinks that it is much ado about nothing.

Gas and oil have very different and distinctive oders. Unless your nose isn't working it is very easy to tell the difference between the two.

 

[THLONE]

Gas and oil have very different and distinctive orders. Unless your nose isn't working it is very easy to tell the difference between the two.

My point exactually. Most people smell odors and others smell orders. And people do not smell the same.

 

[Grady]

Updated the findings at the start of the thread. With taking too long to do the miles and unable to control variables this test is a bust. My conclusion is fuel in oil happens on all engines. This one probably more than most. Higher temperatures are your friend in evaporating out the impurities in oil. I am not going to worry about it anymore.

 

[9zero1790]

Updated the findings at the start of the thread. With taking too long to do the miles and unable to control variables this test is a bust. My conclusion is fuel in oil happens on all engines. This one probably more than most. Higher temperatures are your friend in evaporating out the impurities in oil. I am not going to worry about it anymore.

dont tell that to the guys in the "data only" thread lol.

 

[Tra1969]

Anyone ever thought about the size of the oil cooler might play a part in it. I have had the issue on a 19 and now on my 22 and I have never towed anything with either. Just a thought.

 

[ccasanova22]

Since we don’t have an oil temp gauge, hard to tell when it’s up to 212 (boiling temp) which takes approximately 35 miles of sustained highway driving in most vehicles I’ve owned, some even more (like the GMC 6.2L V8, which even half an hour at 55mph on country roads is still too short).

All vehicles will raise oil level when subject to short trip driving, this one’s no different, if your oil doesn’t get up to 212 the contaminants and blow-by will not be boiled out until the oil gets there (and usually, you have to stay above 212 to really get rid of the acids in the sump).

I think this is much ado about nothing, my oil never smells like gas and my truck is probably the only one that uses some oil when towing/working hard.

 

[Dgc333]

Since we don’t have an oil temp gauge, hard to tell when it’s up to 212 (boiling temp) which takes approximately 35 miles of sustained highway driving in most vehicles I’ve owned, some even more (like the GMC 6.2L V8, which even half an hour at 55mph on country roads is still too short).

The Ranger has an oil cooler that is part of the oil filter adapter. It uses coolant to warm up the oil to the operating temp of the engine and cools the oil if the oil goes above the thermostat temp.

My Focus ST had the same setup and also had an oil temperature gauge. The oil temp tracked the coolant temperature very closely unless you were running it very hard when it would go over the thermostat rating. I do have an oil pressure gauge on my Ranger and when the engine is cold the oil pressure is in the 80 to 90 psi range and it comes down to the 30 to 40 psi range at about the same rate the coolant temperature comes up to normal operating temperature indicating that it is warming up at approximately the same rate as the coolant.

Even on the coldest days the coolant in the Ranger is up to it's normal operating temp within 5 miles. Since my experience is the oil temp tracks the coolant when there is a heat exchanger that uses coolant the oil temp will be up to approximately 190F or so within five miles too.

You do not need to get the oil up to 212F to drive off moisture, anything above 140F will cause it to evaporate and gasoline also vaporizes at 140F. So any more than five miles of driving has your oil hot enough to drive off the condensation and gasoline blow by from the crank case.

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