The EPA Is Targeting Aftermarket Car Modifications

[DukeCanBuildit]

Our NY AG is now going after the beef industry. Apparently cow farts will accelerate global warming so they need to be taxed and farmers put out of business. It's all a targeted money grab at this point controlling the agenda.

FYI - it’s the burps, not the farts. I’ll raise them in my garage if it comes to that.

Love me a good steak dinner.

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[Jhbryaniv]

Our NY AG is now going after the beef industry. Apparently cow farts will accelerate global warming so they need to be taxed and farmers put out of business. It's all a targeted money grab at this point controlling the agenda.

Heck, I'd be more concerned in the near future about water use...

Just wait until the feds pass the rules and regulations for water companies with repeat to pfas and pfoas...

 

[TJC]

The entire industrial revolution occurred without government mandates of any kind. The cotton gin, the telephone, television, xrays, aircraft, trains, automobiles, the steam engine, all came about without government funding or mandates.

I am not arguing that government is not needed, but like everything else...too much of anything is bad for you. There needs to be a return to balance.

And FWIW, the sun has far more impact on the temperature variations on this planet than anything man has ever done - all added up! Solar radiation vs the background radiation from the entire galaxy plays a massive role in climate variations. But there is no money to be made in that, so we spend countless $$ on things that don't matter instead of improving the planet's quality of life -for all species/ life forms.

Mankind is like an arrogant monkey playing with a loaded gun. Whether it be the craziness of global environmental control, or nuclear power generating plants using breeder reactors built to make nukes, instead of the vastly safer thorium reactors that safely shut down when the power goes out, or dinking around dynamically changing the very essence of humanity via DNA/RNA modifications in medicine.

But not to worry, all these things will take care of themselves when we finally destroy ourselves.

If you take the time to review the science of the other 7 planets orbiting our sun, you will find that each of them warms up and cools at the same time frame the earth has. Science has measured these changes in realtime.

I'm off my soapbox. Humanity is gonna do what humanity is gonna do. Best to simply sit back and enjoy the ride.

 

[Fordup]

FYI - it’s the burps, not the farts. I’ll raise them in my garage if it comes to that.

Love me a good steak dinner.

Now I am hungry ?. Actually this goes even farther then the cow emissions. It's about false advertising of 2040 zero emissions goal of a major beef producer that she says will be impossible for them to actually meet.

 

[ControlNode]

Automotive emissions controls are absolutely required. I can't believe that none of the members here remember how bad some cities were in the mid 70s into the early 80s. And that was with way less cars on the road that now. Emission mandates from the earlies 70s took time to have an impact since there will still lots of cars on the road without those systems well into the 80s. Smog was bad back then, and it's not perfect now, but it's less of an impact than it was and if you consider how many more cars are on the road that should be a testament to the fact that emission systems work. I know that some areas, like California, got it worse than others due to geographic features and such but we are all on the same rock traveling through space.

As I've said before, the EPA would not have cracked down on those things like they did if it wasn't for the illegal use (on road without proper working emission systems). Likely they started looking at cars as they got totaled for mods and started building a list and tracking where those parts came from, who was making them and what, if any, attempt they made when selling them to people to insure they were not installed on street cars. Someone mentioned tunes being disallowed at some point, well, they've already started cracking down on them too, that is why most of the old defect features of the tuning software had to be disabled, otherwise the EPA would likely have already shut them down too.

When I swapped my B20Z into my 84 Civic, I kept nearly every part of the emission system from the `99 CR-V that was original to that engine, it still runs an unmodified PHK ECU.

 

[Rinn69]

Until India and China start doing their share (they won't), anything we (the rest of the world) do won't even register as a whole number.... I think it was a temperature change of 0.0004 degrees Celsius by 2040.

 

[MountainGoat]

Until India and China start doing their share (they won't), anything we (the rest of the world) do won't even register as a whole number.... I think it was a temperature change of 0.0004 degrees Celsius by 2040.

I thought it was underwater by the year 2000? I was actually looking forward to it. Had a sailboat and was a big fan of that movie Waterworld too. Never happened so now I'm just an old land lubber.

 

[TJC]

Automotive emissions controls are absolutely required. I can't believe that none of the members here remember how bad some cities were in the mid 70s into the early 80s. And that was with way less cars on the road that now. Emission mandates from the earlies 70s took time to have an impact since there will still lots of cars on the road without those systems well into the 80s. Smog was bad back then, and it's not perfect now, but it's less of an impact than it was and if you consider how many more cars are on the road that should be a testament to the fact that emission systems work. I know that some areas, like California, got it worse than others due to geographic features and such but we are all on the same rock traveling through space.

As I've said before, the EPA would not have cracked down on those things like they did if it wasn't for the illegal use (on road without proper working emission systems). Likely they started looking at cars as they got totaled for mods and started building a list and tracking where those parts came from, who was making them and what, if any, attempt they made when selling them to people to insure they were not installed on street cars. Someone mentioned tunes being disallowed at some point, well, they've already started cracking down on them too, that is why most of the old defect features of the tuning software had to be disabled, otherwise the EPA would likely have already shut them down too.

When I swapped my B20Z into my 84 Civic, I kept nearly every part of the emission system from the `99 CR-V that was original to that engine, it still runs an unmodified PHK ECU.

Of course emissions needed to be cleaned up. And they have been clean for the last 30 years. But classifying and targeting CO2 as a pollutant and green house gas is a giant step towards insanity. Simply ludicrous.

The decision is not backed by science. In fact science proves the opposite. This effort is nothing more than a money making scheme to enrich the few with a carbon trading system that systemically milks the system, skimming billions from every one in the country.

Do you really believe that people who grow their food in backyard gardens are a threat to global warming and society? Best stop breathing as they plan to tax the very air you exhale.

In the late 18th century 60 million bison roamed the entirety of the North American continent. literally from coast to coast, north and south, Alaska to Florida, Virginia to California. 60 million massive bison exhaling God only knows how much CO2. And we are worried about cow farts???

It is difficult to have an intelligent rational discussion with the irrational uninformed.

Galileo's championing of Copernican heliocentrism was directly challenged by the Roman Inquisition in 1615, which concluded that heliocentrism was foolish, absurd, and heretical. He was forced to recant and spent the remainder of his life under house arrest!

Everyone knows that the sun revolves around the earth! You can see it clearly. The sun comes up in the east and sets in the west. The sun indeed circles the earth. The proof is right before your very eyes! Shut this man up! We can't have people thinking the earth revolves around the sun!

Dan Rabil just published this simple list of questions concerning CO2. He gives us something to think about.

The climate in the northern hemisphere was much colder in the late 1700s than in the 20th century, with large American rivers like the Delaware routinely freezing over during the winter. If you lived back then, would you demand that the climate be “protected” at its then-current state? ​

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With reference to the above, how do you determine the optimal “global” temperature?​

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Greenland during the period of roughly 1100-1700 was warmer than it has been since, and it supported European settlements for hundreds of years. After subsequent centuries of colder temperatures and expanding glaciers, why should we now be anxious if Greenland is a bit warmer today than 60 years ago?​

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In the atmosphere, there are four parts carbon dioxide to every 9,996 other parts. Do you think minor variations in an inert gas molecule comprising 0.04% of anything can by itself have a meaningful effect on any physical or thermal barrier?​

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Thinking about the sun, ocean currents, water vapor, volcanic emissions, vegetation and other such natural variables, is CO2 a bigger climate influence?​

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If western industrialized societies are the “worst” emitters of CO2, and larger populations emit more CO2, shouldn’t we halt the massive immigration of consumers from low-carbon Third World countries to high-carbon developed countries?​

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Giant sheets of ice covered much of the earth’s land area during the last ice age, which ended about 10,000 years ago. During that time, the huge glaciers rapidly melted, without human help. Why do you feel that man, who generates only about 10% of all new carbon dioxide, has a major impact on a global climate that is subject to much more direct, massive natural forces?​

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Are Europe and North America more inhabitable now, or when they were covered in ice?​

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Global crop yields have soared in the past 60 years. Can you explain how “climate change” has harmed food production?​

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May I humbly suggest, that just as religion was politicized in 1615, perhaps science has become a victim of the same in the 21st century?

 

[Sojourner]

I thought it was a worthwhile article.

The problem as I see it is not the EPA doing its job. And yes, we do need emissions control (yes, I was a young adult in the 70s and lived near a major city and saw how bad the smog was).

THE problem is a government agency using its considerable (coercive) power for a political end. And however much the dudes in the article MAY have been properly fined, there is simply no debate that government (at both the National and state level) these days has been weaponized for political gain.

So for me, a good article.

 

[scarchild35]

Meanwhile, I really wish this fucktard that lives on our street would put a damn muffler or baffle on his motorcycle...

 

[LawnMM]

Meanwhile, I really wish this fucktard that lives on our street would put a damn muffler or baffle on his motorcycle...

 

[Jhbryaniv]

Meanwhile, I really wish this fucktard that lives on our street would put a damn muffler or baffle on his motorcycle...

The first warm day last week some guy was up and working on his bike in our neighborhood. For close to 3 hours every few minutes he would Rev it to full throttle and hold it for a few seconds and it would roar and die.

I want to pay him a visit, at night, with a device to put that thing out of its misery so we can enjoy our Saturday.

 

[Rinn69]

A little expanding foam with a long straw / applicator works on obnoxiously loud cars that like to rev at 0530........

 

[JesseS]

When I lived in Germany you could not modify a car in any way without taking it back thru the TUV, their inspection process, and every serial number in the license book had better match. No tuners, no tranny swaps, no engine swaps, no major changes at all. And their inspection makes our safety checks look like kids play, they check EVERYTHING!

 

[JesseS]

The first warm day last week some guy was up and working on his bike in our neighborhood. For close to 3 hours every few minutes he would Rev it to full throttle and hold it for a few seconds and it would roar and die.

I want to pay him a visit, at night, with a device to put that thing out of its misery so we can enjoy our Saturday.

We have some Vagos living down the street, when I was still a LEO we came to an understanding, idle in/out or I start with the decibel meter.

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