Oil Catch Can. Yes or No?

[Sashimi_Moto]

Porpoise Hork, everything you stated has been covered. Plenty of folks have looked at the valves (and had to clean them) on ecoboost engines. Others have looked at the CCV side as well. Just pulling off the quick connect line on my truck shows a totally oil coated hose feeding the turbo inlet.

What ford has in place on this engine does in fact reduce what makes it onto the back of the intake valves - however this is not a passenger car, driven lightly from place to place - this is a vehicle that has a high likelihood of being worked hard. When an engine is worked hard (high rpm/load/heat) it produces exponentially higher oil vapor and crankcase pressures and the OEM measures are not enough.

An additional oil/air separator is only an extra measure and a good thing. The crank case is still venting and that air is still being recycled. Here’s the thing - theres a OEM air/oil separator in place on the pcv side but not so much on the valve cover for the CCV tube that feeds the turbo/intercooler. Imho, cleaning intake valves is cheaper than cleaning intercoolers and replacing turbos. My qc connectors come in tomorrow and I’m looking forward to installing a 2nd catch can to keep the air that goes through my turbo and intercooler as clean as possible.

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[Porpoise Hork]

Porpoise Hork, everything you stated has been covered. Plenty of folks have looked at the valves (and had to clean them) on ecoboost engines. Others have looked at the CCV side as well. Just pulling off the quick connect line on my truck shows a totally oil coated hose feeding the turbo inlet.

What ford has in place on this engine does in fact reduce what makes it onto the back of the intake valves - however this is not a passenger car, driven lightly from place to place - this is a vehicle that has a high likelihood of being worked hard. When an engine is worked hard (high rpm/load/heat) it produces exponentially higher oil vapor and crankcase pressures and the OEM measures are not enough.

An additional oil/air separator is only an extra measure and a good thing. The crank case is still venting and that air is still being recycled. Here’s the thing - theres a OEM air/oil separator in place on the pcv side but not so much on the valve cover for the CCV tube that feeds the turbo/intercooler. Imho, cleaning intake valves is cheaper than cleaning intercoolers and replacing turbos. My qc connectors come in tomorrow and I’m looking forward to installing a 2nd catch can to keep the air that goes through my turbo and intercooler as clean as possible.

Thank you for the information on this topic. I'm still learning about this engine and what to lookout for and probably will inadvertently post up things that have already been covered. I agree that in the absence of dual port injection, keeping oil vapor out of the intake system especially the intercooler is important. When my GTI had about 120K miles on it I pulled the intercooler and drained about a 1.5 cups worth of oil out of it. That car never had a catch can on it so I am very interested in your adding a second catch can to the CCV side as well.

As for cleaning the valves I am looking at options to perform this in a similar way that I had done on the GTI using a garden sprayer and Seafoam that did a fairly decent job. There's a couple of promising sensor ports that might be perfect for this and very easy to access from topside. I just need to run the part numbers to see what they are and if the engine will idle with them removed/disconnected as well as any possible DTC's doing so would generate.

 

[Sashimi_Moto]

CCV side using the JLT can setup.

The lines provided with the JLT can are 1/2" bundy connectors because they're intended to be used for the PCV side fittings. The CCV side uses 5/8th Bundy connectors so I had to get 5/8th Bundy fittings (with 1/2" barb) at FIttings.space or Amazon:
Fittings.Space LINK

I used some effort to remove the existing fitting and installed the new.

Then I disconnect the OEM fittings:

Then Attached new hoses and start figuring out routing

All Done

I may swap out a fitting. The MALE bunding fitting that goes to the Female CCV line would serve me better if it was a 90degree elbow fitting instead. So if you're doing this: get the MALE fitting that's 1/2" barb to 5/8th" BUNDY.

 

[jrscobra]

Ordered by Mishimoto kit yesterday after reading this thread multiple times.

 

[Racket]

After reading through this thread a d some of the very detailed, well researched posts, it seems we Ranger owners have good choices for this amendment. The JLT as sold is the value proposition and easiest to install, the Mishimoto the mid-level product and the UPR dual-vacuum catch can top of the line. The prices follow those progressions, as does install difficulty.

 

[deton8r]

I installed the UPR catch can (original version) today. I got a great deal on it on eBay. I believe the seller gave up on removing the OEM pcv line or something. This one isn't tapped for the 2nd port so the upgrade kit isn't an option for me.

The install went better than expected and I only cut my hand once . People are not kidding about how cramped that area is and having to remove oem pcv line by feel. Getting the factory pcv line out is the only bad part, installing the mount, catch can, and hoses went smoothly.

The Mishimoto install video was extremely helpful. If all I had to go on was the UPR instructions I might have given up and listed it on eBay myself.

A couple weeks ago I also installed a CFM breather.

 

[HenryMac]

I may swap out a fitting. The MALE bunding fitting that goes to the Female CCV line would serve me better if it was a 90degree elbow fitting instead. So if you're doing this: get the MALE fitting that's 1/2" barb to 5/8th" BUNDY.

Wow... that location for the can looks horrible.

 

[Racket]

I installed the UPR catch can (original version) today. I got a great deal on it on eBay. I believe the seller gave up on removing the OEM pcv line or something. This one isn't tapped for the 2nd port so the upgrade kit isn't an option for me.

The install went better than expected and I only cut my hand once . People are not kidding about how cramped that area is and having to remove oem pcv line by feel. Getting the factory pcv line out is the only bad part, installing the mount, catch can, and hoses went smoothly.

The Mishimoto install video was extremely helpful. If all I had to go on was the UPR instructions I might have given up and listed it on eBay myself.

A couple weeks ago I also installed a CFM breather.

I have one of the first UPR catch cans (before the second vacuum line was developed) and there should be a cap on the opposite side of your existing one that looks like a square-top threaded plug. When I upgraded mine, they sold me the parts and called it the 'WOT accessory'. It is not as hard to put in as the basic kit.

The install was very, very tight and I still have scars to prove it.

 

[Sashimi_Moto]

Wow... that location for the can looks horrible.

Good thing I drive with the hood closed!

 

[mtsoxfan]

I know we're talking vapors here but it looks to be a mighty step incline for oil to travel. Even with vacuum...

 

[deton8r]

I have one of the first UPR catch cans (before the second vacuum line was developed) and there should be a cap on the opposite side of your existing one that looks like a square-top threaded plug. When I upgraded mine, they sold me the parts and called it the 'WOT accessory'. It is not as hard to put in as the basic kit.

The install was very, very tight and I still have scars to prove it.

Thanks, I know what you're referring to but the one I have doesn't have that 2nd plug. I think UPR would probably sell me the part or I could also drill and tap it. Maybe this one was a prototype or something.

I'm impressed that UPR gives customers an upgrade path.

 

[Willy Bee]

Anyone else thinking about installing an oil catch can once they're available? I see it's a pretty popular mod and haven't seen any discussion on it yet.

I would like to know too. I've never heard of such in my 57 years. Sounds like it separates corn oil out of sub par 87 gas that will ruin your lawnmower too?

 

[DavidR]

I would like to know too. I've never heard of such in my 57 years. Sounds like it separates corn oil out of sub par 87 gas that will ruin your lawnmower too?

LOL! but no, they separate oil aerosols and vapors from crankcase return gasses.

 

[db_tanker]

okay so got my mishimoto installed...and they need to tell you right up front dang it...if you don't have the hands of say...a 6 year old...it is a bit more difficult!

Second...the color coding? yellow and orange? yeah...no...not on mine...lol

but got it installed and hopefully it works...I am somewhat concerned about how some of those hoses route...they send you some cable ties so that helps.

not bad all in all I think.

 

[bivenspack]

Installed the Mishimoto catch can earlier in the summer. this is what I got in the can after 3K. I have a mix of driving. Some short trips, but some long ones as well (400+ miles in a single trip). I'm at 25K on my '19 Ranger Lariat 4x4. For the engine, this is the only mod I have so far. Plan on a CAI later as money/time allows.

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