Long range fuel tank

[t4thfavor]

10.5 mpg with my camper, if I end up with a ranger after my buyback, I’ll be in for sure.

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[RoadBoss]

DEFINITELY interested in this, if the price isn't outrageous... I'm sure it won't be cheap, but needs to feel like a worthwhile upgrade.

Also, as long as it doesn't negatively effect off road performance, like sit below the frame or not offer any kind of skid/rock protection.

looking forward to seeing this progress! I'd love to help in any way too if you need any more data or anything.

 

[Ranger8729]

I'm in also.
Had a Genright tank on my XJ that held an additional 10gal and even though it only got 18mpg going downhill with a tailwind it makes a difference in towing and offroad. Would greatly increase the capability of the Ranger.

 

[Texasota]

Hauling all that extra gas weight around hurts gas mileage and is just that much more wear and tear on the vehicle. Liquids are heavy, as anybody that carries a 5 gallon gas can can attest to.

I can see the "tanker" option for an off road rig, but for a daily driver it makes no sense at all.

My bladder gives out way before the fuel tank does....

Agreed. For my twice/year long hauls towing my boat it would be nice. But, I average ~4000 miles/year on my trucks and with a tank as large as being proposed I would likely need to put Stabil in each time I filled the tank. I would rather fill up more often and keep the gas fresh.

 

[Frenchy]

DEFINITELY interested in this, if the price isn't outrageous... I'm sure it won't be cheap, but needs to feel like a worthwhile upgrade.

Also, as long as it doesn't negatively effect off road performance, like sit below the frame or not offer any kind of skid/rock protection.

looking forward to seeing this progress! I'd love to help in any way too if you need any more data or anything.

Thankfully the Australian companies have done well about clearance. The main focus out there is offroad since A LOT of people like to go out back for a fair bit of time. Also if you arent purposely trying to climb over a tall sharp jagged rock you should be fine.

 

[t4thfavor]

Agreed. For my twice/year long hauls towing my boat it would be nice. But, I average ~4000 miles/year on my trucks and with a tank as large as being proposed I would likely need to put Stabil in each time I filled the tank. I would rather fill up more often and keep the gas fresh.

I have 31k miles on now, sooo I’d be filling my tank once a week with the huge tank to each their own...

The skid plate on the current tank is plastic, so it’s more like a suggestion than actual protection.

 

[Frenchy]

"Also if you arent purposely trying to climb over a tall sharp jagged rock you should be fine. "

a skid plate is there precisely for those oopsies when you do.
to not provide one on a 4X4 truck would simply be negligent.

I understand what you are saying but be aware, I have been offroad in my truck before and after putting the Old Man EMU lift on my truck. Have I hit a rock somewhere underneath? Yes I have and it was once while stock and that was on the front bash plate(or skid plate as we call it). My fuel tank skid plate hasnt seen anything and I'm pretty confident that it won't. Now there are some trails near me that would say different but then again those trails are ment for a serious rock crawler so I will keep my truck out of there.

 

[Nellieg]

I am not sure i understand the risk to modifying the safety and warranty issues involved with using an alternate larger fuel tank. If the issue is need for the mileage because fueling is limited where you are then wouldnt it be precautionary to carry an extra 5gallon can which would be alot less expensive and less to have to defend should there be a fuel system issue later. At 19gallon roughly 25mpg your range is north of 400 per tank 5gallons would get you easily 500mi. When towing i can understand the desire for more fuel but then you are reducing your tow capabilities by the weight of the extra fuel. Also changing the volume of fuel stored places more weight in different locations on substructure. Many folks carry an extra can when 4wheeling.

 

[t4thfavor]

I am not sure i understand the risk to modifying the safety and warranty issues involved with using an alternate larger fuel tank. If the issue is need for the mileage because fueling is limited where you are then wouldnt it be precautionary to carry an extra 5gallon can which would be alot less expensive and less to have to defend should there be a fuel system issue later. At 19gallon roughly 25mpg your range is north of 400 per tank 5gallons would get you easily 500mi. When towing i can understand the desire for more fuel but then you are reducing your tow capabilities by the weight of the extra fuel. Also changing the volume of fuel stored places more weight in different locations on substructure. Many folks carry an extra can when 4wheeling.

My towing capacity is static (my camper is under max weight by a lot), even with an extra 100# of fuel onboard, I wouldn’t change my load, but I would be able to pass at least 1 gas station.

 

[Frenchy]

I am not sure i understand the risk to modifying the safety and warranty issues involved with using an alternate larger fuel tank. If the issue is need for the mileage because fueling is limited where you are then wouldnt it be precautionary to carry an extra 5gallon can which would be alot less expensive and less to have to defend should there be a fuel system issue later. At 19gallon roughly 25mpg your range is north of 400 per tank 5gallons would get you easily 500mi. When towing i can understand the desire for more fuel but then you are reducing your tow capabilities by the weight of the extra fuel. Also changing the volume of fuel stored places more weight in different locations on substructure. Many folks carry an extra can when 4wheeling.

Here is a way to think about it, say you are an avid offroad adventurer and you would like to only fill up the tank at certain stops and you would like to free up some room in the bed. With a long range fuel tank you can do just that. For me if i want to go to some of the trails I have to fill the tank closer to the trail compared to home just to do it. Kind of a pain but it is what it is at this time. If you have the long range tank you have the opportunity to eliminate this. Yes we can get a fair range as it is with the trucks as long as conditions are meet and we dont have a headwind(had to deal with this going to AZ once and it wasnt cool). Hopefully that helps you understand why this is an idea. Now this doesn't mean you have to buy one but it is an idea to think about.

 

[Nick Barber]

Interested in a larger single tank as long as the size increase justifies the cost (a couple more gallons wouldn't be worth it) and I could sell the original tank to make some $ back.

Would also be interested in a dual tank of similar size and placement as OEM (mirror image on other side) as long as the secondary tank had free flow into the main if possible. Not interested in two fuel pumps, tank switches, etc.

 

[Frenchy]

Interested in a larger single tank as long as the size increase justifies the cost (a couple more gallons wouldn't be worth it) and I could sell the original tank to make some $ back.

Would also be interested in a dual tank of similar size and placement as OEM (mirror image on other side) as long as the secondary tank had free flow into the main if possible. Not interested in two fuel pumps, tank switches, etc.

I'm not sure how Australia does the dual tank option but in am aware of one company in another country having a gravity feed second tank that fits i. The spare tire area

 

[VAMike]

Would also be interested in a dual tank of similar size and placement as OEM (mirror image on other side) as long as the secondary tank had free flow into the main if possible. Not interested in two fuel pumps, tank switches, etc.

Should be easy if you take out the exhaust.

 

[Nick Barber]

Interested in a larger single tank as long as the size increase justifies the cost (a couple more gallons wouldn't be worth it) and I could sell the original tank to make some $ back.

Would also be interested in a dual tank of similar size and placement as OEM (mirror image on other side) as long as the secondary tank had free flow into the main if possible. Not interested in two fuel pumps, tank switches, etc.

I just remembered I was also interested in doing a hybrid drive conversion, which could eliminate the need for a larger tank. Thinking value/mile though, a bigger tank is probably the more cost effective and less complicated modification.

 

[Ward Harris]

The Australian option under discussion is a replacement. We do not offer any aux tanks for pick ups and also none that are gravity feed.

We cannot tell you what the ground clearance of the new steel tank is, since we do not have a before/after, but the photos below provide some points of reference regarding updated clearance.

As for weight added, I also don't know weight of the stock tank/skid plate. The weight of the LRA tank shown below is approximately 100 lbs. Hypothetically, if the stock tank/skid is 30 lbs, then there's a 70 lb. increase. If the new tank holds 35 gallons, the increase is 16 gallons. At 6.3 lbs./gallon, the new full fuel tank will increase weight by 101 lbs. (fuel difference) and 70 lbs. for a total of 171 lbs. low and in the middle of the truck. Not a bad place to carry added weight.

In our experience with more extreme increases - like a 100 Series Land Cruiser with 80 gallons of fuel in total - the added weight is found by their owners find the cost and weight to be acceptable tradeoffs for the functional value received.

We are not saying 171 lbs. is not a lot of weight, but it might be worth it for some owners.

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