Cheapest way to go with no keys

[WOADKIL]

The replacement standard key for a Bugatti Veyron comes to $9,640.02.

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[hookem57]

my son bought a 2021 ranger from carmax a few months ago. it came with only one key and now he can't find his one key.

i called a dealer to ask the process for getting a key when you have none and they said he'd have to have the vehicle towed in and have documents showing ownership. i understand having to prove ownership but it shouldn't have to be towed in, imo. i tried to say he should just be able to get a key with out the vehicle if he proves ownership and the person from the service dept said the key has a chip and needs programming.
i did not ask how much it would cost for the new key and programming but my guess is it will be way too much.

i have a 2013 ford escape that is push button start and i was able to program the fob myself through the vehicle so i'm guessing the fob part is easy to rectify without a dealer but the key part (his is not push button) i'm not sure about. i don't have access to my son's vehicle so i'm hoping there is a fairly easy / cheap way for my son to be set up with a couple of keys (and hopefully i can talk him through remote programming or send him a vid on it.)

any advice on the best way to solve this? i did a search for "no keys" but didn't find anything in the forum. maybe there is already a thread on this?

I have been through this, but I had one fob. If you go dealer they are correct. Vehicle must be towed or however you can get there. The fobs with the keys a locksmith can do that. Either way it is not cheap. Now a days you just can't lose keys.

 

[hookem57]

The replacement standard key for a Bugatti Veyron comes to $9,640.02.

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If you can afford that car then that is no problem.

 

[maxbottomtime]

I would have to check the service manual to be sure but the Ranger key without push button start does not have a chip - the ignition switch and key tumbler match is the security.
Now the FOB itself is different it is security programmed to the truck, modules.
Requires a security validation code to program, this code is read and validated by the existing FOBs , and thus allows for additional FOBs to be added, this is why you have to have both FOBs to complete the process.
Any locksmith should be able to make a key-but he will have to contact Ford and provide the VIN to obtain the security validation code needed to program FOB and also input into the key cutting machine, this code is required for key cut and is why you cannot go to local hardware store and say I need a copy of the key like you would a house key.
The FOB and Truck communication frequency is a rolling code , security feature to deter thieves from copying the frequency code and gaining access to the truck. It’s always changing .
So starting from scratch without any FOBs will require a master code from Ford and the dealer will most likely not willingly give that info to you - thus the reason for wanting to put eyes on the truck (Towed-In)
A bonded Locksmith will be able to get it as he will be licensed and authorized to get it

There's a whole thread on the programming procedure. You do need to program the chip in the new key in order for the car to start. Similarly, you can have your key cut at certain locksmiths, and program yourself.

Oddly, my swimmer key had to be programmed to start the car, but sets the alarm off when used on the door (until you start the car). No such issue with the replacement Fobs.

 

[Msfitoy]

The replacement standard key for a Bugatti Veyron comes to $9,640.02.

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If you don't have the 02 cents, no deal...

 

[SigOris]

my son bought a 2021 ranger from carmax a few months ago. it came with only one key and now he can't find his one key.

i called a dealer to ask the process for getting a key when you have none and they said he'd have to have the vehicle towed in and have documents showing ownership. i understand having to prove ownership but it shouldn't have to be towed in, imo. i tried to say he should just be able to get a key with out the vehicle if he proves ownership and the person from the service dept said the key has a chip and needs programming.
i did not ask how much it would cost for the new key and programming but my guess is it will be way too much.

i have a 2013 ford escape that is push button start and i was able to program the fob myself through the vehicle so i'm guessing the fob part is easy to rectify without a dealer but the key part (his is not push button) i'm not sure about. i don't have access to my son's vehicle so i'm hoping there is a fairly easy / cheap way for my son to be set up with a couple of keys (and hopefully i can talk him through remote programming or send him a vid on it.)

any advice on the best way to solve this? i did a search for "no keys" but didn't find anything in the forum. maybe there is already a thread on this?

Sounds like a BOHICA situation

remember, time is money, bite the bullet and if you’re lucky have AAA tow to the dealer

also see if a FORD extended warranty would cover any

 

[Big Blue]

The biggest problem the OP has is he has nothing, no key for a locksmith to copy, no fob to copy or program the new fob from. Ford can probably use the VIN to get the pattern for the key, but I doubt they will give that out. Even if the locksmith might be able to do part of it your still probably going to have to deal with the dealer for some of it.

The OP's son better be tearing his place apart looking for that key fob.

Never, never buy a used car without two sets of keys. Bought Saturn Astra one time. Only had one key, told the salesman it needed to have a second key or no deal. He agreed but was not happy when he found out how much it was going to cost him to make the sale. It wasn't the standard GM flip key and they had to get a special program from Germany to program it. It took them 4 hours to program it. He wasn't aware the those Saturn's were re-branded Opals. Don’t think he made much commission on that sale.

 

[moorejl57]

Sounds like a BOHICA situation

remember, time is money, bite the bullet and if you’re lucky have AAA tow to the dealer

also see if a FORD extended warranty would cover any

This thread is making me want to get a Tile or such to put on my key chain. It's amazing how I need to spend money just because I *might* lose my key.

 

[CATX]

This thread is making me want to get an Tile or such to put on my key chain. It's amazing how I need to spend money just because I *might* lose my key.

this is why you should make a third key. Buy one online for $40 and proofread yourself. Cheaper than a tile.

 

[SigOris]

This thread is making me want to get a Tile or such to put on my key chain. It's amazing how I need to spend money just because I *might* lose my key.

Not a bad idea

 

[JasonTremor]

A good mobile locksmith can handle supplying a new key and programming. They have subscriptions for the software that enables them to do so. No key, no problem. If they say they can only do half the job, you summoned the wrong mobile locksmith.

I don't know of one dealership in my area that hasn't outsourced key making to a mobile locksmith.

 

[EJH]

This thread is making me want to get a Tile or such to put on my key chain. It's amazing how I need to spend money just because I *might* lose my key.

My wife has the tiles on her keychains

 

[FunInTheSun]

I would have to check the service manual to be sure but the Ranger key without push button start does not have a chip - the ignition switch and key tumbler match is the security.
Now the FOB itself is different it is security programmed to the truck, modules.
Requires a security validation code to program, this code is read and validated by the existing FOBs , and thus allows for additional FOBs to be added, this is why you have to have both FOBs to complete the process.
Any locksmith should be able to make a key-but he will have to contact Ford and provide the VIN to obtain the security validation code needed to program FOB and also input into the key cutting machine, this code is required for key cut and is why you cannot go to local hardware store and say I need a copy of the key like you would a house key.
The FOB and Truck communication frequency is a rolling code , security feature to deter thieves from copying the frequency code and gaining access to the truck. It’s always changing .
So starting from scratch without any FOBs will require a master code from Ford and the dealer will most likely not willingly give that info to you - thus the reason for wanting to put eyes on the truck (Towed-In)
A bonded Locksmith will be able to get it as he will be licensed and authorized to get it

Just popping in to say all the keys have chips and require programming, whether fob only or cut keys. You can add, delete, or program keys to have limitations (Valet Key, Teen Driver Key, etc.) using the MyKey functions of Sync, but it requires showing it all the programmed keys, if I remember correctly. If you have lost ALL the keys, that's a dealer fix. (or possibly a talented locksmith).

I have the Cut key style. No Push-Button Start for me.

 

[Dr_Strangelove]

Considering I compulsively palm my front pockets in the same way a nervous nun thumbs her rosary - I never worry about losing my keys.

My wife's tile has paid for itself.

 

[Jason B]

I'll bet dollars to donuts that he will find the original (now useless) key a couple of days after shelling out hundreds of dollars for replacements.
Ask me how I know.

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