Auto Start Stop (ASS) Eliminator

[dtech]

FWIW, everything I have been able to read is that AGM batteries require a slightly higher charge voltage than flooded lead acid batteries, 14.1 to 14.5 is what I most often see compared to 13.8 to 14.1 for flooded lead acid. The reason is an 12 volt AGM battery has a slightly higher nominal full charge voltage.

Also, I have seen mentioned in both of the battery threads that have been prominent over the past few days the concept of three stage charging. That is true when you are talking about bench charging your battery. In the case of an alternator in a vehicle it needs to be constantly outputting enough current to match the demands placed on the battery by the electrical system and be able to recharge the battery when it is low. At an appropriate charge voltage of 14.1 to 14.5 volts a fully charged battery will not be over charged or overheat.

You mentioned that engineers "can be tasked" with conflicting requirements. Having been an engineer for over 45 years I will contend that they are always tasked with conflicting requirements and that every decision is a compromise.

yeah an alternator responds to the load placed on it and responds accordingly, requiring more power from the engine - what I've read on AGM batteries that can accept higher charging voltages, but they produce more heat (internal resistance rises, same as flooded) as the charge ramps towards 100% so as a precaution the charging voltage is reduced - this probably applies more to autos where in extremely hot environments underhood temps can be elevated, I think it's strictly precautionary, virtually no chance of an explosion as they are valve regulated. However in the interest of fuel economy auto some makers have played with the charging systems, so called alternator decoupling in low load situations - will wait on the airline tech to hear more about that. In any event good to dispel some of the myths surrounding agm batteries and what I call a fallacy that disconnecting the bms will allow the alternator to overcharge and ruin the battery, simply not the way it works, but some choose to believe the incorrect or partially incorrect info that is part of the internet age - including many youtube videos produced by self proclaimed experts. heaven forbid that a Ford tech could be mistaken or that Ford will replace your torque converter because the EGR system is faulty, or fail to figure out why your battery is failing.

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[Bsthroop]

Not a great idea, according to a Ford tech.


I'm okay to hit the button when I start the truck.

Frank

Not a great idea, according to a Ford tech.


I'm okay to hit the button when I start the truck.

Frank

That is a totally different plug than on the Ranger. He may have a point about that plug but those issues don't happen with the plug on the battery neg terminal. And he could have said it in under a minute. Had mine disconnected until I disabled with Forscan.

 

[OrangeStreak]

Not a great idea, according to a Ford tech.


I'm okay to hit the button when I start the truck.

Frank

My dealer service dept. also said disconnecting it on the Ranger could create issues and suggested not to do it. After a year of using the stop button...installed this device and now can select either off or on and it remains in that setting...

P.S. I'm not either one of those guys on the right!

 

[SigOris]

That’s kind of the problem with society nowadays

Keyboard Warriors ?

 

[AzScorpion]

Thats strange, mine has been fine for 3 years now. I use one similar to these. Maybe try a different one?

https://www.amazon.com/GE-11311-Electroluminescent-Entryway-Bathroom/dp/B00HED2BIK/ref=sr_1_30?crid=HSC519KAVMW1&keywords=GE+LED+nightlight&qid=1673527465&sprefix=ge%20led%20nightlight,aps,143&sr=8-30&th=1

These arrive tomorrow. My wallet curses you!

Mike, did the new LED nightlight work for you? ?

 

[BettaRanga]

Mike, did the new LED nightlight work for you? ?

No hum so far!

also dim enough it doesn’t bother me at night, so good call.

thanks!!

 

[TOMDEE]

But doesn't that defeat the BMS also?

WHAT'S BMS?

 

[JesseS]

WHAT'S BMS?

Battery Management System.

 

[TOMDEE]

Battery Management System.

OKAY THANKS!!

 

[Phantomfixer]

My dealer service dept. also said disconnecting it on the Ranger could create issues and suggested not to do it. After a year of using the stop button...installed this device and now can select either off or on and it remains in that setting...

P.S. I'm not either one of those guys on the right!

I've used the Eliminator on my F-150 and now my Ranger and they work just great.If you want to use S/S turn it on or if you don't just turn it off.It's definitely worth the money

 

[Modman]

I haven't hooked my laptop up to the Ranger yet but isn't it a simple Forscan mod to turn ASS off? I ask because I have done it in other vehicles but am a newb with 5G Ranger...

 

[dondonbabyraptor]

Thats strange, mine has been fine for 3 years now. I use one similar to these. Maybe try a different one?

https://www.amazon.com/GE-11311-Electroluminescent-Entryway-Bathroom/dp/B00HED2BIK/ref=sr_1_30?crid=HSC519KAVMW1&keywords=GE+LED+nightlight&qid=1673527465&sprefix=ge%20led%20nightlight,aps,143&sr=8-30&th=1

Still disappointed you did not recommend this one, I use this to stay responsible in the Ranger

 

[erty176]

If I want an ASS eliminator I just get out of the truck. Sorry, someone had to.

 

[DreamSports]

If you're trying to eliminate the auto start stop, just disconnect the small wires on the negative terminal on the battery... Auto Start stop deleted. Then pop switch out and disconect.

Nope... That disables your battery monitoring system.. Just get a $4 nightlight.

 

[OrlandoJay23]

Nope... That disables your battery monitoring system.. Just get a $4 nightlight.

Here’s a solution I’m going to exit this thread. If you don’t want the auto start, stop order your vehicle and have it eliminated.

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