18,564.2 miles, and throwing-in the towel

[Chris M]

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[Cabose-1]

I stop carrying heavy packs on long hikes a long long long time ago. And i comolain about getting old a lot. Body does not move like it once did, now i look like john elway walking down the hall.
Not as good as i once was, but as good once as i ever was.
First mod on my truck was the tailgate assist.
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[deleriumtremor]

67, had right knee replaced in January which made a tremendous difference in mobility. My five rotator surgeries were supposed to be only two, but bad surgeons caused two extra on right and one extra on left. I think that caused a lot of the issues with getting strength back. I think once you turn 80 that is when the decline will start to kick in.

I have heard knees are the toughest from a rehab standpoint. I can say if you get a good surgeon, hips are maybe a little tougher than a wisdom tooth but compared to all the hardware they install, pretty easy-peezy.

I stayed away from the knife on my shoulders both times and I think I am glad I did. This last one has been slow to heal, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel with regard to effective use, if a bit on the weaker side maybe for another 6-12 months.

It is much harder to build muscle mass for me now than even 10 years ago. It is a fine line between injuring myself and working my muscles hard enough to see some gains. My goal is to build as much muscle mass back as I can for the inevitable day (probably not that far away) when it becomes impossible not to lose a little each year.

 

[5thranger]

I have heard knees are the toughest from a rehab standpoint. I can say if you get a good surgeon, hips are maybe a little tougher than a wisdom tooth but compared to all the hardware they install, pretty easy-peezy.

I stayed away from the knife on my shoulders both times and I think I am glad I did. This last one has been slow to heal, but I can see the light at the end of the tunnel with regard to effective use, if a bit on the weaker side maybe for another 6-12 months.

It is much harder to build muscle mass for me now than even 10 years ago. It is a fine line between injuring myself and working my muscles hard enough to see some gains. My goal is to build as much muscle mass back as I can for the inevitable day (probably not that far away) when it becomes impossible not to lose a little each year.

The pain medication they gave me caused a stomach ulcer and still having stomach issues. The rehab was pretty tough but not having that gnawing knee pain was worth it. They say the hip is pretty easy compared to knee.

 

[deleriumtremor]

This is so true! We usually walk about 3 miles a day on our days off but between getting the house ready for sale and moving we haven't been out since early March. Well now that we're somewhat settled in Saturday we went to to community center here where they have a 1.25 mile walking trail and we were tired after 2 laps. After we got home we were watching some tv and my thighs were like bricks when I tried getting up and Annie's thighs and calfs were too. lol But once you get moving again the soreness starts to go away and you have to push through it, something I learned from years of playing hockey. Last night we walked around the neighborhood and did 3 miles and while Annie was sore at the end (she has bad knees) I was fine and felt good this morning.

I have changed quite a few things following a few YouTube channels focused on longevity. Along with changing our diet, I started taking a number of supplements. The only one I can say has made a recognizable difference so far is Magnesium Glycinate. As I have gotten older, it became harder and harder to get a full night's sleep. Since I started taking the Magnesium, I sleep most nights a full 8 hours. I do get up to pee at regular intervals as in the past, but I go right back to sleep, that has been a really big one for me for my ability to push harder during the day.

A long time ago now, after I had retired and gotten a few of the things I always wanted to do but never had the time out of the way, we started hiking. At first we did it because Mary was concerned about the dogs getting enough exercise (we lived in the city then), then we realized how good it was for us. We started at about 2-3 miles and by the time we moved to the country we were up to 5-6 miles a day.

Most recently, after I had lost all the fat I gained during the horrible hip and hip replacement time, we decided we would start adding weight to our packs (rucking). I started at 10lbs and now am up to 30, Mary is doing 15lbs, but being 105lbs body weight, probably not going a lot higher, maybe 20 as an end point. My goal is to get to 40 lbs in the pack before winter. We average 6-7 miles a day and are starting to refine the list of tracks we hike to favor the tougher climbs (1000'+). We decided last week that as the weight has increased and the steepness of the trails we hike increase, we need recovery time a lot more, so we are going to cut the hiking back to every other day and fill in with resistance training on our off days. We both noticed if we add the recovery time in, the pace and strength of the subsequent hike is really enhanced.

Anyway, keep at it Dave, as a guy a lot older I can say with confidence, you won't regret it.

 

[deleriumtremor]

I stop carrying heavy packs on long hikes a long long long time ago. And i comolain about getting old a lot. Body does not move like it once did, now i look like john elway walking down the hall.
Not as good as i once was, but as good once as i ever was.
First mod on my truck was the tailgate assist.
2022 xlt fx2

Yeah, well I can say almost for sure, no matter how much weight I get into that pack, I am not going to make it through selection...

 

[AzScorpion]

I have changed quite a few things following a few YouTube channels focused on longevity. Along with changing our diet, I started taking a number of supplements. The only one I can say has made a recognizable difference so far is Magnesium Glycinate. As I have gotten older, it became harder and harder to get a full night's sleep. Since I started taking the Magnesium, I sleep most nights a full 8 hours. I do get up to pee at regular intervals as in the past, but I go right back to sleep, that has been a really big one for me for my ability to push harder during the day.

A long time ago now, after I had retired and gotten a few of the things I always wanted to do but never had the time out of the way, we started hiking. At first we did it because Mary was concerned about the dogs getting enough exercise (we lived in the city then), then we realized how good it was for us. We started at about 2-3 miles and by the time we moved to the country we were up to 5-6 miles a day.

Most recently, after I had lost all the fat I gained during the horrible hip and hip replacement time, we decided we would start adding weight to our packs (rucking). I started at 10lbs and now am up to 30, Mary is doing 15lbs, but being 105lbs body weight, probably not going a lot higher, maybe 20 as an end point. My goal is to get to 40 lbs in the pack before winter. We average 6-7 miles a day and are starting to refine the list of tracks we hike to favor the tougher climbs (1000'+). We decided last week that as the weight has increased and the steepness of the trails we hike increase, we need recovery time a lot more, so we are going to cut the hiking back to every other day and fill in with resistance training on our off days. We both noticed if we add the recovery time in, the pace and strength of the subsequent hike is really enhanced.

Anyway, keep at it Dave, as a guy a lot older I can say with confidence, you won't regret it.

I'll have to try the Magnesium Glycinate as I've never been one to sleep through the night. On a good night I average about 4-5 hours of "good" sleep and toss and turn the rest. We do everything naturally and neither of us take any meds except for an occasional allergy pill or Prevacid when I overdue it on Italian or Mexican food. ?

I'd walk and hike more but Annie has a really hard time with it. 3 miles is about her limit and she only hikes to make me happy. She has a hard time with rocks and even semi rocky terrain and I'm not joking when I say she's accident prone and can trip over the line in the road. lol On our trips she's hiked some really great trails and was happy after doing it because the views were amazing. Especially at Arches NP when her knee was still all messed up (from falling in Durango, CO) she made it to the top. I keep telling her to look into getting knee replacement surgery (or maybe there's a better alternative) while she still has good Insurance. But you're right the more you keep at the the stronger you get.

 

[Chris M]

I'll have to try the Magnesium Glycinate as I've never been one to sleep through the night. On a good night I average about 4-5 hours of "good" sleep and toss and turn the rest. We do everything naturally and neither of us take any meds except for an occasional allergy pill or Prevacid when I overdue it on Italian or Mexican food. ?

I'd walk and hike more but Annie has a really hard time with it. 3 miles is about her limit and she only hikes to make me happy. She has a hard time with rocks and even semi rocky terrain and I'm not joking when I say she's accident prone and can trip over the line in the road. lol On our trips she's hiked some really great trails and was happy after doing it because the views were amazing. Especially at Arches NP when her knee was still all messed up (from falling in Durango, CO) she made it to the top. I keep telling her to look into getting knee replacement surgery (or maybe there's a better alternative) while she still has good Insurance. But you're right the more you keep at the the stronger you get.

Jeanie's had both her knees replaced with decent results. That means the pain she used to have is mostly gone. One knee came out better than the other, but the surgeries were necessary to keep her moving at all. Like pretty much any surgery, she wouldn't recommend it unless the pain is unbearable or it's a quality of life issue maybe. Good luck with getting Miss Annie to move forward with that.

 

[deleriumtremor]

I'll have to try the Magnesium Glycinate as I've never been one to sleep through the night. On a good night I average about 4-5 hours of "good" sleep and toss and turn the rest. We do everything naturally and neither of us take any meds except for an occasional allergy pill or Prevacid when I overdue it on Italian or Mexican food. ?

I'd walk and hike more but Annie has a really hard time with it. 3 miles is about her limit and she only hikes to make me happy. She has a hard time with rocks and even semi rocky terrain and I'm not joking when I say she's accident prone and can trip over the line in the road. lol On our trips she's hiked some really great trails and was happy after doing it because the views were amazing. Especially at Arches NP when her knee was still all messed up (from falling in Durango, CO) she made it to the top. I keep telling her to look into getting knee replacement surgery (or maybe there's a better alternative) while she still has good Insurance. But you're right the more you keep at the the stronger you get.

Knees are tough. If it were a hip, I would say get it replaced as soon as possible, knees, not so sure. Has she looked into braces/support, sometimes that can help. As far as falling, I am in the same place. I have permanent raspberries on my knees and elbows, major klutz on the trail.

On the Magnesium Glycinate, I take 600mg a day. 1 tablet of the stuff below in the morning with my pre-hike protein shake and some nuts and 2 tablets with dinner at night. Like you, a good night was 5 hrs, which really was tough for me as I had always been an 8hr guy (I could sleep anywhere, with anything going on). When I hit maybe 55, the time I could sleep started t decline. By mid 60's 5hrs was great, many nights worse. Knock on wood, with the Magnesium, I am back to sleeping 8hrs and pretty much falling asleep at will.

https://www.amazon.com/Magnesium-Glycinate-400mg-Bioavailable-Vegetarian/dp/B07ZD7R4RF/ref=sr_1_1_pp?crid=3REQ4BFGJVGML&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.MSKGuAHF_IR9KBgvasp-oJUkMgwNX990WYCpuMKbq7gGUQ4mqK18XHqBg1qNVb26jU5iowUqdERJlnk3g4Tursql-cKcLzsyEdZyDyeFgBbLXZVdjsDyd4Wg9hjdUA46fEBpyZiR7NWq-tqPqKMzNUAcXaB7TNcPVwsw9R1YKwwRYybDWyYNsm_vVjy9GR6kwS1mrWSrhiakQH9IowGANQWrNyiiMLCfYmaZARCMySfrsy6sXqFkF0JbaJDM76JytPmnKtn3LYv4PFuY1vXWdkh17zBJh3pWjJSx9jbSjis.fHrBGUf4NI8r4PMIZ5PqsvJ-U-PIb3fD7_1Llom3jzI&dib_tag=se&keywords=purely+holistic+magnesium+glycinate+400mg&qid=1720459248&sprefix=purely+holis,aps,213&sr=8-1

 

[AzScorpion]

Jeanie's had both her knees replaced with decent results. That means the pain she used to have is mostly gone. One knee came out better than the other, but the surgeries were necessary to keep her moving at all. Like pretty much any surgery, she wouldn't recommend it unless the pain is unbearable or it's a quality of life issue maybe. Good luck with getting Miss Annie to move forward with that.

Knees are tough. If it were a hip, I would say get it replaced as soon as possible, knees, not so sure. Has she looked into braces/support, sometimes that can help. As far as falling, I am in the same place. I have permanent raspberries on my knees and elbows, major klutz on the trail.

On the Magnesium Glycinate, I take 600mg a day. 1 tablet of the stuff below in the morning with my pre-hike protein shake and some nuts and 2 tablets with dinner at night. Like you, a good night was 5 hrs, which really was tough for me as I had always been an 8hr guy (I could sleep anywhere, with anything going on). When I hit maybe 55, the time I could sleep started t decline. By mid 60's 5hrs was great, many nights worse. Knock on wood, with the Magnesium, I am back to sleeping 8hrs and pretty much falling asleep at will.

https://www.amazon.com/Magnesium-Glycinate-400mg-Bioavailable-Vegetarian/dp/B07ZD7R4RF/ref=sr_1_1_pp?crid=3REQ4BFGJVGML&dib=eyJ2IjoiMSJ9.MSKGuAHF_IR9KBgvasp-oJUkMgwNX990WYCpuMKbq7gGUQ4mqK18XHqBg1qNVb26jU5iowUqdERJlnk3g4Tursql-cKcLzsyEdZyDyeFgBbLXZVdjsDyd4Wg9hjdUA46fEBpyZiR7NWq-tqPqKMzNUAcXaB7TNcPVwsw9R1YKwwRYybDWyYNsm_vVjy9GR6kwS1mrWSrhiakQH9IowGANQWrNyiiMLCfYmaZARCMySfrsy6sXqFkF0JbaJDM76JytPmnKtn3LYv4PFuY1vXWdkh17zBJh3pWjJSx9jbSjis.fHrBGUf4NI8r4PMIZ5PqsvJ-U-PIb3fD7_1Llom3jzI&dib_tag=se&keywords=purely+holistic+magnesium+glycinate+400mg&qid=1720459248&sprefix=purely+holis,aps,213&sr=8-1

She's like me and doesn't do anything until it's absolutely necessary so getting knee surgery probably won't happen anytime soon. We've talked to many who've had it and have got mixed reviews so for now it's a no go. She does have a couple different braces and knee sleeves which she wears when hiking or going for long walks which do help.

Thanks for the link I'm going to give it a try. I've never been one to sleep good my brain just never shuts down. When working a lot it was always processing what's going on with work and what needed to be done and who need to be where the next day. Now it's just dumb stuff like I'll get a song in my head and can't get rid of it!

 

[deleriumtremor]

Now it's just dumb stuff like I'll get a song in my head and can't get rid of it!

Now you did it!

 

[IdahoRanger]

She's like me and doesn't do anything until it's absolutely necessary so getting knee surgery probably won't happen anytime soon. We've talked to many who've had it and have got mixed reviews so for now it's a no go. She does have a couple different braces and knee sleeves which she wears when hiking or going for long walks which do help.

Thanks for the link I'm going to give it a try. I've never been one to sleep good my brain just never shuts down. When working a lot it was always processing what's going on with work and what needed to be done and who need to be where the next day. Now it's just dumb stuff like I'll get a song in my head and can't get rid of it!

Have Annie look into an unloader brace for her knees, probably my next step before a replacement.

For your sleep I tried melatonin about 1/2 hour before bed and it makes you sleepy. Still tough to turn off my brain though.

 

[deleriumtremor]

So it is official, I installed the Deezee tailgate damper. One strange thing was when I called to find out where I turn in my man card, they said it had been revoked years ago...

 

[rang19ca]

So timely on the old age issues in this thread. I have been taking Magnesium for night leg cramps for a few years now. I turned wrenches for over 40years and at 71 yrs old, I have some aches and occasional pains from it. Tired muscles and aching joints are a daily thing for me, but I do try and walk to stay limber. I have shoulder pains and I'm sure they have some damage but, I really don't want surgery so I am very cautious how I move. Staying active and moving is the best thing for me. Getting old is tough but I wouldn't have it any other way.

 

[AzScorpion]

So it is official, I installed the Deezee tailgate damper. One strange thing was when I called to find out where I turn in my man card, they said it had been revoked years ago...

No worries I have another one for you to carry in your wallet....I mean purse.

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