Anyvody here driven a Maverick and Ranger back to back?

[Joeiconic]

In general, he said my truck shifted way too much and his other complaint gets thrown out since it was a gripe about having to use the brakes (he's coming from a Tesla).

It‘s 10 gears, so if for anyone who’s never driven one it takes some getting used to. I have zero issues with my transmission. I agree with Wes, take advantage of the trucks features, I.e. sport mode, tow/haul, gear lock out, etc. and ignore the forum whining. Sure, some folks have legit problems, but a lot of folks just don’t like the normal behavior of a 10 speed transmission.

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[ctechbob]

The FWD trans they use in the Maverick is in no way related to our 10R80's, but as for smoothness, it is as smooth as anything I've ever driven. I have the AWD/Tow Package 2022 sitting in my driveway.

The 8F35 can be just as problematic as the 10R80, I still recommend frequent fluid changes on it, especially since it is doing 'truck' duty in the Maverick.

As for driving dynamics, hands down the Maverick is the better ride/drive. It drives much more like a car than the Ranger, which is a wobbling truck mess compared to it.

The 2.0L is a stong little mill, but misses some of the midrange punch that the 2.3L has.

Comfort, they're about the same as far as seating positions. I actually prefer driving the Maverick, I just feel it is a better drive. But my second car is an Acura TL Type S with Koni suspension under it, so there's that.

If he ordered the Hybrid Maverick, then he's got a completely different beast in the E-CVT transmission those use. No belts or pulleys in that setup to break, it is all gears and electric motors much like the Toyota system.

 

[canyonslicker]

Thanks for the replies. My dad is getting a Lariat 2.0 8sp Maverick and definitely not the CVT offered in the hybrid. His main concern after driving my Ranger was if the Maverick's 8sp was similar, that could be a problem.

In general, he said my truck shifted way too much and his other complaint gets thrown out since it was a gripe about having to use the brakes (he's coming from a Tesla).

The Maverick has the eCVT it uses planetary gears not belts and pulleys like the old CVTs. It’s probably one the most reliable transmission out there. I too was concerned until I researched it. Agreed the early CVTs turned out to be crap. The eCVT is almost bulletproof.

 

[SDXLT]

I ordered a Mav Tremor thinking it would be truck enough for me. It definitely drives like a car and it is definitely comfortable even for a bigger guy like me at 6 ft and 250 lbs.

I’ll take my ranger any day of the week. It’s a truck, and it does truck stuff better. I already feel the 5 ft bed is too small so the Mav is much too small.

my ranger gets grumbly in the 1200 rpm’s. That didn’t happen in the Mav at all. Depending on what your dads doing with it he may be just fine. Only he will know what he wants

 

[Justin says...]

I ordered a Mav Tremor thinking it would be truck enough for me. It definitely drives like a car and it is definitely comfortable even for a bigger guy like me at 6 ft and 250 lbs.

I’ll take my ranger any day of the week. It’s a truck, and it does truck stuff better. I already feel the 5 ft bed is too small so the Mav is much too small.

my ranger gets grumbly in the 1200 rpm’s. That didn’t happen in the Mav at all. Depending on what your dads doing with it he may be just fine. Only he will know what he wants

My dad is elderly at around 75 and will primarily only use the Maverick haul the trash to the local dump.

 

[SDXLT]

I’d say he’d do just fine with a Maverick.

 

[TJC]

The FWD trans they use in the Maverick is in no way related to our 10R80's, but as for smoothness, it is as smooth as anything I've ever driven. I have the AWD/Tow Package 2022 sitting in my driveway.

The 8F35 can be just as problematic as the 10R80, I still recommend frequent fluid changes on it, especially since it is doing 'truck' duty in the Maverick.

As for driving dynamics, hands down the Maverick is the better ride/drive. It drives much more like a car than the Ranger, which is a wobbling truck mess compared to it.

The 2.0L is a stong little mill, but misses some of the midrange punch that the 2.3L has.

Comfort, they're about the same as far as seating positions. I actually prefer driving the Maverick, I just feel it is a better drive. But my second car is an Acura TL Type S with Koni suspension under it, so there's that.

If he ordered the Hybrid Maverick, then he's got a completely different beast in the E-CVT transmission those use. No belts or pulleys in that setup to break, it is all gears and electric motors much like the Toyota system.

Spot On!

 

[wetidlerjr]

My dad is elderly at around 75 and will primarily only use the Maverick haul the trash to the local dump.

Elderly at around 75! Are you sure he isn't just an "older adult"?

 

[Justin says...]

Elderly at around 75! Are you sure he isn't just an "older adult"?

Ha I was a little afraid my comment would offend. Actually, I'd say he's elderly based on his physical health condition. There have been some setbacks. But no, 75 is not elderly per se.

 

[KJRR]

Ha I was a little afraid my comment would offend. Actually, I'd say he's elderly based on his physical health condition. There have been some setbacks. But no, 75 is not elderly per se.

Does he yell at clouds like the elderly guys here?

Now to figure out why the guy in missing post 23 blocked me. ?

 

[Jason B]

I've spent a few thousand miles in a Maverick. I missed my Ranger every single one of them.

Couple notes:
- The 10R80 in the Ranger is currently the absolute best truck transmission out there. It's shared with the F-150 Raptor, and is both robust and high tech. Don't believe everything you read on forums.
- The transmission programming in our Rangers is very eco-focussed. Just put it in sport or tow/haul if you want it to be a little more responsive.
- The Maverick is a unibody crossover. You're not really going to get one beyond a simple dirt road. It is not going to hold up to hard use like a body-on-frame pickup.
- AWD =/= 4WD. You're going to want the latter if you have to deal with any winter or dirt.
- The Maverick's bed is incredibly small.

I mentioned that in another post. The 10R80 had been around since 2017 and used in F150, Explorer, Expedition, Ranger, Mustang and Transit. There are literally millions of these transmissions out there. Yet, a few people complain about 'hard shifting' and even fewer have had premature failures, then all of a sudden, the 10R80 is a disaster of a design.

The FWD trans they use in the Maverick is in no way related to our 10R80's, but as for smoothness, it is as smooth as anything I've ever driven. I have the AWD/Tow Package 2022 sitting in my driveway.

The 8F35 can be just as problematic as the 10R80, I still recommend frequent fluid changes on it, especially since it is doing 'truck' duty in the Maverick.

As for driving dynamics, hands down the Maverick is the better ride/drive. It drives much more like a car than the Ranger, which is a wobbling truck mess compared to it.

The 2.0L is a stong little mill, but misses some of the midrange punch that the 2.3L has.

Comfort, they're about the same as far as seating positions. I actually prefer driving the Maverick, I just feel it is a better drive. But my second car is an Acura TL Type S with Koni suspension under it, so there's that.

If he ordered the Hybrid Maverick, then he's got a completely different beast in the E-CVT transmission those use. No belts or pulleys in that setup to break, it is all gears and electric motors much like the Toyota system.

That's because essentially it is a car, with the trunk lid left off.

 

[SVTPaul]

Thanks for the replies. My dad is getting a Lariat 2.0 8sp Maverick and definitely not the CVT offered in the hybrid. His main concern after driving my Ranger was if the Maverick's 8sp was similar, that could be a problem.

In general, he said my truck shifted way too much and his other complaint gets thrown out since it was a gripe about having to use the brakes (he's coming from a Tesla).

Did he try using the tow/haul function or sport mode on the Ranger? Either should alleviate those complaints at the cost of fuel economy (but who buys a truck for fuel economy?) I frequently use sport mode or remove some of the top three gears depending on the terrain, hills, cruising speed involved etc. I too dislike the programming of the shift points to always hunt for lowest rpm and fuel savings, particularly when you drive with a light throttle and not using the go pedal like an on/off switch. There's also excessive braking required down steep hills, but there are definitely ways around it.

 

[DranC]

My dad test drove my 2022 Ranger and absolutely hates the transmission but loves the truck and I love the truck but the transmission makes me very nervous. He has also ordered a 23 Maverick but it hasn't arrived yet. Wondering what the odds are he'll hate the transmission in the Maverick because it's very similar to the one in the ranger? Just curious if anybody has driven both.

I had the Ford Performance Tune and my transmission is a whole different world! Much much better!

 

[JimJa]

I own a '19 Ranger and have driven a Maverick immediately followed by my Ranger because a good friend and neighbor now has a Maverick Tremor, which I've also driven.

- Maverick is much more "car-like" than the Ranger - it's the way its been designed. Easier to get in and out too which may be an issue for the op's dad, depending on his age.
- As a result, Maverick "handles" better on those daily smooth road drives. Lower CG helps. It's not built for serious off-raod adventures.
- Compared to standard Maverick, Tremor package is much more capable in light off roading (think snow/mud). Rear torque vectoring with it's dual clutch packs (similar to the Focus RS) is the reason.
- For most folks needing a 4-wheel/AWD vehicle, torque vectoring is the best system. It's an easy add-on using either braking by using the ABS system or clutch packs. It escapes me why more manufactures don't make it available. This forum has a LOT more serious off-roaders than the average public for which a torque vectoring system would be the best choice.
- Transmission: Yes the Ranger shifts a LOT more than the 8-speed and Wes Stiler is exactly correct. Today's engineers are driven by economy because it costs the manufacture huge dollars if they fail to meet CAFE standards. CVTs are around 5% more efficient than a standard shifting transmission, BUT customers are resistant. IOT gain that efficiency more gears are added, and more shifting is built in to make the standard transmissions more-like a CVT, keeping the engine in it's most efficient range. Obviously there is a point of diminishing returns and currently 10 speeds seems to be the sweet spot between cost and gains.

 

[REDWM]

My dad test drove my 2022 Ranger and absolutely hates the transmission but loves the truck and I love the truck but the transmission makes me very nervous. He has also ordered a 23 Maverick but it hasn't arrived yet. Wondering what the odds are he'll hate the transmission in the Maverick because it's very similar to the one in the ranger? Just curious if anybody has driven both.

Just curious, what is it he hates about the Ranger transmission other than it's automatic.

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