Mishimoto R&D: 2019+ Ranger Performance Intercooler

[TORQUERULES]

Its the nice quality that you are buy especially with it being AMERICAN MADE!!! And you know it will come in the mail unlike one other intercooler.

I should also add that any time you have a good load(towing or even climbing a steep grade on the HWY) you are going to have heat soak. Does the factory intercool do well for a stock vehicle? Sure but if you have a tune like a fair but of us on the fourm then this would be a great option.

All true, but still it costs as much as a pair of aluminum small block Ford cylinder heads. Think about that... Also American made.

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[TORQUERULES]

Even an upgraded turbo can cost less after the core return...

https://www.ghtuning.com/product/gearhead-upgraded-ranger-2-3l-turbo/

 

[TORQUERULES]

Honestly, I am not knocking the intercooler or even Mishimoto, I am knocking the price of some of the current performance parts out there that are way overpriced for what they are. This is not just a Mishi issue, they ALL do it now. Insane.

 

[Dustanmont]

Just not sure this is worth a large fraction of an upgraded turbo in cost... Maybe if you were going full tilt or were seeing heat soak issues towing or in hot climates, but almost $1K on discount and well over regular price. Damn... Nice quality piece though.

Priced with the competition.
Look up Levels and Mountune intercoolers for the Ranger.

 

[TORQUERULES]

Priced with the competition.
Look up Levels and Mountune intercoolers for the Ranger.

Didn't say it wasn't. They are ALL overpriced for what they are.

 

[Frenchy]

Didn't say it wasn't. They are ALL overpriced for what they are.

So let's just say you decide to replace the turbo charger with an upgraded one or take yours off to have upgraded. What do you think's going to happen when you have all that extra boost and volume going through but yet you don't change the intercooler? You're creating a recipe for disaster. An intercooler at a performance level is definitely not overpriced. You should look at the price of an oem intercooler from Ford. I can guarantee you the price is going to be roughly around $500 if not a little bit more. For aftermarket these are priced pretty damn well for what they are on an improvement.

 

[TORQUERULES]

So let's just say you decide to replace the turbo charger with an upgraded one or take yours off to have upgraded. What do you think's going to happen when you have all that extra boost and volume going through but yet you don't change the intercooler? You're creating a recipe for disaster. An intercooler at a performance level is definitely not overpriced. You should look at the price of an oem intercooler from Ford. I can guarantee you the price is going to be roughly around $500 if not a little bit more. For aftermarket these are priced pretty damn well for what they are on an improvement.

Did I say I was going to replace the turbo? No. I was doing a price comparison. Why can't you guys understand what I am saying? Do I see the need for an upgraded, IC? Yes I do. Would I get one if I thought I needed one? Yes. All I was doing was demonstrating the relative cost compared to a much more intricate piece of tech such as a better turbo, or if you were working on an old Mustang, a set of aluminum cyl. heads. You all seem to be taking offense to someone pointing out that these things cost way more than they should across the board. If you are okay with that, then fine. But someone pointing out that parts such as this, a CAI, etc. are very inflated nowadays should be okay. So don't try to educate me on turbocharging as I have been doing this stuff for a while on other platforms so I know the benefits of a better IC. Instead, pay attention to my argument and read what I am saying. I think I even made sure to say that I was not knocking the Mishi IC. Just that it is pricey. Spend your money how you want. If I have enough to blow on one in the future I might as well, but I can still bitch about it being expensive.

 

[TORQUERULES]

Honestly, I am not knocking the intercooler or even Mishimoto, I am knocking the price of some of the current performance parts out there that are way overpriced for what they are. This is not just a Mishi issue, they ALL do it now. Insane.

You see what I was saying? Read.

 

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Some of you may be at the point where you need one and will have to take the price hit (maybe a bigger turbo, lots of towing, high heat conditions), but just buying one "because" and at high prices just promotes the continuation of said prices.

 

[TORQUERULES]

Just not sure this is worth a large fraction of an upgraded turbo in cost... Maybe if you were going full tilt or were seeing heat soak issues towing or in hot climates, but almost $1K on discount and well over regular price. Damn... Nice quality piece though.

Again, using the cost of a turbo as a counterpoint/example. Never said go there first. Also said it's a nice piece. Just pricey. Reading. Context...

Nobody is making you feel the need to justify your purchase, so don't get offended. Take with a grain of salt that someone is pointing out how parts are getting incredibly expensive nowadays.

 

[TORQUERULES]

I hope it does you guys well and if I ever get to where I think I need one, the Mishi is on the short list. Not sure I need one yet as I haven't had any heatsoak issues yet, I am not towing, and I am on the stock turbo.

 

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Still think it's expensive... ?

 

[Racket]

I hear ya, I am foregoing the intercooler myself mostly because at this point I feel I have all the performance I will ever need for my truck. I can't pinpoint what items along with the tune/programming modifications has gotten me here.

If my goal was even more power, it would be the fat catted downpipe and turbo upgrade, upgrade injectors and I presume throttle body to go with the intake, pipes and intercooler. It might be an additional five grand or more with a dedicated tuning shop. Haven't even thought of new wheels.

I've 'invested' nearly two grand on performance stuff so far and almost as much other things on the truck with plans for other projects.

 

[Grady]

“Overpriced” is an opinion. R&D costs. Those employees have families and house payments hobbies just like everyone else. Their price is in line with other companies. If it is that overpriced then that is the perfect opportunity to start a business. If you could make good money selling for less then You are golden.

 

[BassRanger]

The glaring lack of real world data is what keeps me at a distance from certain products. An intercooler upgrade should be doing 3 things; reducing steady state throttle baseline temps, reducing in boost temperature delta, and reducing recovery time back to baseline temps. Nobody provides this kind of data which is crazy considering it can be recorded with a smart phone OBDlink and a data logging app like torque.

I don't doubt these products are an improvement, the question is are the an improvement that warrants their price tag. There seems to be a bunch of assumption that the stock charge cooler is unable to reject heat from high temp towing, tunes, aftermarket parts. To my knowledge no one has substantiated this belief, with one exception. I do remember one member saying their truck went into reduced power mode while towing up a grade due to excessive temperatures, but I don't know if it was a function of IAT's, ECTs, EOT's or a combination.

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