Long range fuel tank

[CVCA91911]

How is it that Ford decided to give the new Bronco a larger fuel tank at 20.8 gallons for the 4-door version? I’m jealous.

Well I’ll wait for an aftermarket fuel tank for my Ranger and keep carrying my two Jerry cans when ever I go on extended camping trips with the family.

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[Fastfitzy]

Im interested in this one as well. Watching?

 

[Killranger]

I am also very interested as I don't want to have to take up some of my already small bedspace if possible.

 

[levimac`]

Hauling all that extra gas weight around hurts gas mileage and is just that much more wear and tear on the vehicle. Liquids are heavy, as anybody that carries a 5 gallon gas can can attest to.

I can see the "tanker" option for an off road rig, but for a daily driver it makes no sense at all.

My bladder gives out way before the fuel tank does....

1 gallon of gas weighs 6# so the 19 gallon tank full weighs approx. 114 and the 30 gallon tank would weigh 180, 66 lbs more is all. That doesn't add that much stress to the drive train.

 

[P. A. Schilke]

1 gallon of gas weighs 6# so the 19 gallon tank full weighs approx. 114 and the 30 gallon tank would weigh 180, 66 lbs more is all. That doesn't add that much stress to the drive train.

Hi Levi,

It is 7lbs per gallon and the big question of the larger tank is the fuel tank straps that secure it to the frame. These straps are very highly stressed. One of my friends at Ford was a fuel system CAE specialist. He taught me that tank attachment should not be taken lightly. Crash integrity of the fuel system is key here.

Best,
Phil Schilke
Ranger Vehicle Engineering
Ford Motor Co. Retired

 

[ChiliTruck]

give me what the Bronco is going to run then (20 gallons), since clearly that isn't a big deal. It's crazy that a truck has the same size tank as a mid-size sedan imo.

 

[FoD]

By the time this would happen/be approved, Kakafornika will have banned gasoline engines anyway, so naaah . (just an opposing viewpoint, otherwise hell yeah).

 

[Frenchy]

By the time this would happen/be approved, Kakafornika will have banned gasoline engines anyway, so naaah . (just an opposing viewpoint, otherwise hell yeah).

With the recent ban that California put on gasoline vehicles won't be in effect until 2035. Also the Mandate that they have doesn't say that if you already have the vehicle that you can no longer have it. Also the current plan is to have the fuel tank of ailable by sometime late winter to early spring of 2021 as long as things go the way we anticipated. No promises but that is me attempt we are trying to go fund me

 

[HenryMac]

1 gallon of gas weighs 6# so the 19 gallon tank full weighs approx. 114 and the 30 gallon tank would weigh 180, 66 lbs more is all. That doesn't add that much stress to the drive train.

" but for a daily driver it makes no sense at all."

 

[Frenchy]

" but for a daily driver it makes no sense at all."

What of your daily driver has a long enough trip that you need to fill up more ofter because of the soze of your tank? Yes you would think a fuel efficient car would be better but what if you didn't want such. Or perhaps your needs couldn't justify a car? That is where a bigger tank is a smart idea for a bigger tank. Now if you hardly go anywhere to begin with and you fill up every other week then no need for a bigger tank. That is the way to look at it.

 

[VAMike]

One of my old cars could get 500-600 miles to a tank. If I topped it off I could squeeze in another 2 gallons and go another 100 miles. I did that every time because that put off refilling the tank by one day or basically skip 1 fill-up in 5. Lotta time saved over the course of many years.

If I still had that commute I wouldn't be driving a truck that gets twenty-some MPG.

 

[HenryMac]

What of your daily driver has a long enough trip that you need to fill up more ofter because of the soze of your tank? Yes you would think a fuel efficient car would be better but what if you didn't want such. Or perhaps your needs couldn't justify a car? That is where a bigger tank is a smart idea for a bigger tank. Now if you hardly go anywhere to begin with and you fill up every other week then no need for a bigger tank. That is the way to look at it.

Opinions vary.

Ford designs these trucks for the needs of the masses and to meet federal regulations.

There are a plethora of aftermarket transfer tanks available that could be retrofitted into the bed of the truck.

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/catalog/fuel-transfer-tanks

 

[Frenchy]

Opinions vary.

Ford designs these trucks for the needs of the masses and to meet federal regulations.

There are a plethora of aftermarket transfer tanks available that could be retrofitted into the bed of the truck.

https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/catalog/fuel-transfer-tanks

You are right they have plenty of transfer tanks available but the problem with that is UPS bed space to begin with. Let alone if you have a crew cab you don't have any bed space to begin with. Part of why I wish we had better storage under the rear seats(a topic for another thread)

 

[geophb]

Opinions vary.
Ford designs these trucks for the needs of the masses and to meet federal regulations.
There are a plethora of aftermarket transfer tanks available that could be retrofitted into the bed of the truck.
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/catalog/fuel-transfer-tanks

I want an aftermarket tank to replace my factory tiny one.
If you don't want one don't buy one. ?

 

[RoadBoss]

I mean, I think what most people want from this are pretty common:

-Longer fuel range/capacity

-Minimal impact on ground clearance/breakover angle/ skid protection.

There's a lot of debate in this thread on why, and how much capacity, and some people have more concern of one of those than the other, but I think the rest is pretty clear.

The manufacturer just needs to figure out how much extra capacity they can get without compromising clearance, or if they may need to sacrifice a little bit of clearance in order to get a reasonable and worthwhile capacity....
They will just need to figure out what that balance is, and what is physically possible given the space and manufacturing abilities.

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