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I got ahold of a sales manager on phone, and request assistance from a fleet inventory manager (per some of your recommendations).
They are putting together a contract tonight/tomorrow, after giving me an initial MSRP quote.

1) If I have an X-plan PIN, should I mention this before the contract is sent out, or after it's sent out? Or does it not matter?
(There are a few options on where to get the PIN from, including from a friend who currently works at Ford, and another generous source)

2) On these forums people have suggested avoiding the first 500-600 vehicles of a new model. Given the covid shutdown, would you treat the situation the same as a new model, and wait a bit to order 2021? Or (in your opinion) fine to get an early vehicle? I have the option of ordering tomorrow for the first batch of 2021s.

3) For anyone else considering Costco Auto: they replied that they haven't certified 2021 Ranger yet, and probably won't until early 2021. So I wasn't able to continue with Costco; they were responsive, though.
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I went to Future Ford Concord, CA, they were pretty decent as far as car dealers go. Was probably made better by the end of 2019 deals they had going on.
 

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I got ahold of a sales manager on phone, and request assistance from a fleet inventory manager (per some of your recommendations).
They are putting together a contract tonight/tomorrow, after giving me an initial MSRP quote.

1) If I have an X-plan PIN, should I mention this before the contract is sent out, or after it's sent out? Or does it not matter?
(There are a few options on where to get the PIN from, including from a friend who currently works at Ford, and another generous source)

2) On these forums people have suggested avoiding the first 500-600 vehicles of a new model. Given the covid shutdown, would you treat the situation the same as a new model, and wait a bit to order 2021? Or (in your opinion) fine to get an early vehicle? I have the option of ordering tomorrow for the first batch of 2021s.

3) For anyone else considering Costco Auto: they replied that they haven't certified 2021 Ranger yet, and probably won't until early 2021. So I wasn't able to continue with Costco; they were responsive, though.
1) good news !

2) at this stage in the model run I wouldn't be concerned. More importantly, the last 9 months or so have reinforced my belief in that old maxim, "do it while you can". None of us know whats around the corner.

Enjoy your new Ranger !
 

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On these forums people have suggested avoiding the first 500-600 vehicles of a new model. Given the covid shutdown, would you treat the situation the same as a new model, and wait a bit to order 2021? Or (in your opinion) fine to get an early vehicle? I have the option of ordering tomorrow for the first batch of 2021s.
At this point, you are unlikely to get a 2021 that is as early as the first 500-600.

I ordered just over a month ago, and have a build date in mid-January. Others here have mentioned later build dates. I'd guess your truck will be built in Feb or even March.
 

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setup a free google voice phone number and a junk e-mail address just for car buying purposes. I can use the GV app on the phone and it works just like a regular phone then
 


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Thanks, that makes sense. I'm looking for 2021 only because I'm looking for a specific feature combination that I can't find -- and it's not possible to order 2020 anymore.
Part of the problem is that only dealer stock orders are being taken right now and customer orders aren't open yet. 2020 Ranger production ends this Friday, Dec 4; 2021 production is scheduled to start on Dec 7.
If you want a Ranger now, you may be able to reserve one that the dealer has already ordered. Some options and/or packages are not available yet "2021MY Ranger Tremor Off Road Package - The Tremor Off Road Package (91T) on the 21MY Ranger will not be selected for scheduling until further notice."

I'm with ya though, I made a spreadsheet with four different versions of one I want to order. My very competent salesperson at my Ford store can't help me further yet, but if the order banks open at 12:00, I'll get an email from her at 12:00:01.
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I got ahold of a sales manager on phone, and request assistance from a fleet inventory manager (per some of your recommendations).
They are putting together a contract tonight/tomorrow, after giving me an initial MSRP quote.

1) If I have an X-plan PIN, should I mention this before the contract is sent out, or after it's sent out? Or does it not matter?
(There are a few options on where to get the PIN from, including from a friend who currently works at Ford, and another generous source)

2) On these forums people have suggested avoiding the first 500-600 vehicles of a new model. Given the covid shutdown, would you treat the situation the same as a new model, and wait a bit to order 2021? Or (in your opinion) fine to get an early vehicle? I have the option of ordering tomorrow for the first batch of 2021s.

3) For anyone else considering Costco Auto: they replied that they haven't certified 2021 Ranger yet, and probably won't until early 2021. So I wasn't able to continue with Costco; they were responsive, though.
The first 500-600 would be for a vehicle built in a plant that had a complete retool. The ranger line was retooled prior to the ‘19 model year. Any work being done between model years now will be strictly for maintenance. When a plant is retooled the time frame is short. The subcontractors who design and build the lines with everything involved (robots, cooling lines for tooling and the protective cages) are built offsite and completely disassembled, transported to the assembly plant and put together in a matter of weeks. The lines were run offsite to set up everything and they actually produce a fair amount of vehicles. Some are press vehicles some are display’s and a bunch go right from the temp assembly right to the rail yard.
 

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If your in willing to drive to the Central Valley, I worked at big valley Ford for 6+ years. I’m still great friends with the owner and all sales managers plus I’ve bought my last 4 Ford there.
Let me know if you need someone there I’ll be happy to get you in contact with someone that is happy to earn your business.
 

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This is pretty well known, but just in case...

Every Ford dealer can check the availability of any Ford vehicle that has not sold. Its physical location, and the options on that vehicle are available to your dealer. He just has to bring it up on his computer. If you are interested in an 2021 this is a good way to go. Be advised, the ordering dealer retains the "hold back" so your dealer may not offer as good a deal as you'd like -- and your dealer has to go and get the vehicle (or perhaps you can) or have it shipped.

A vehicle remains on this list until money changes hands. The dealer may have a down payment so the vehicle may not be available.

I did this with my '18 RS. Production had stopped and within 30 seconds my dealer found the closest one which was 300 miles away. This one was in WI, but he also found one in Chicago and another in St. Louis, both of which he deemed were too far away. I wasn't charged for the truck to get it.
 

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1) good news !

2) at this stage in the model run I wouldn't be concerned. More importantly, the last 9 months or so have reinforced my belief in that old maxim, "do it while you can". None of us know whats around the corner.

Enjoy your new Ranger !
Amen!:oops:
 
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Fortunately the vehicle was shipped a few days ago :)

Is there a good way to track the freight?

I saw one link on these forums, but the VIN is not found with that company.
 

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I've been trying to get the attention of several SF Bay Area dealerships to special order a 2021 XLT, i feel like I'm talking to a wall with each dealership.
Does anyone have advice?
Details:

1) Due to covid I'd like to get a basic price quote (for a build) over email/phone.
Some dealerships will only talk about ANY details, no matter how minor, in-person. I'm avoiding those dealerships.
I'm fine with signing/etc to be in-person.

2) Other dealerships are open to email / phone, but we've been spinning wheels for weeks: each email reply of theirs is basically asks again what I literally just answered in the prior email two lines below their reply, etc.

Eg: after discussing some build details, the next email is usually something like: "are you still interested in a 2020 ranger? Let me show you what we have in stock", etc.
It's as though the conversation disappears; we're stuck at the first step.

3) I don't think I understand what's going on -- I'm looking to give them money :), but I'm having to work very hard to get them to take it :p


Does anyone have tips for getting a dealer's attention and a quote?
Is this normal?

Should I give up on local dealers, and look further away? (Any non-obvious disadvantage to that?)

Thanks for any thoughts.
Don't feel to bad. I went to the dealer (before 19), and asked about mud flaps. All the Rangers in stock weren't equipped with those. The sales guy looked blankly at me and asked why I wanted mud flaps. The dealership just wanted to sell off the lot. That was a short conversation...I never went back.
 

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Fortunately the vehicle was shipped a few days ago :)

Is there a good way to track the freight?

I saw one link on these forums, but the VIN is not found with that company.
Ford Vehicle Order Tracking

Open the link above It will take you to the official order tracker. If it has shipped already, it will only give you the estimated arrival date. with the winter weather we are having, expect delays.
 

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Don't feel to bad. I went to the dealer (before 19), and asked about mud flaps. All the Rangers in stock weren't equipped with those. The sales guy looked blankly at me and asked why I wanted mud flaps. The dealership just wanted to sell off the lot. That was a short conversation...I never went back.
They can easily add mud flaps at the dealership. Takes less than 30 minutes to add them to a vehicle. I usually toss that in as something I want (for free) before signing the papers. You must have had a doofus salesperson.
 

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I just ordered my ranger, very easy process for me. This is what I did...

1. went to ford.com and did a B&P for what I wanted. Saved the link.

2. called dealership and asked for salesman for new ranger purchase. Talked to him and said I will send the specs, if you have it on the lot I will purchase today. If you can get it transferred from somewhere else to your dealership I will purchase when it arrives. If you have to order it I am ready to put the down payment.

3. Do not ask questions and appear as if your a tire kicker. Key words were ready for immediate purchase and ready for deposit if order needed. Show you are a motivated purchaser that will buy a truck and looking to find out if you are talking to the right person.

4. vehicle didn’t exist in western US so it had to be ordered. $500 refundable deposit email was sent to me and I signed it and sent it back on 8 Feb. 19 Feb I have my vin# and told build date scheduled for 22 March.


Two months ago I went thru the build and order process for a rubicon wrangler. In one day I had the build order and final pricing all done by phone and email. I didn’t go through with that purchase but I got my questions answered.
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