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I've asked this before....is anyone actually having engine problems that has this fuel in the oil issue? I'll be honest....I don't fiddle with my dipstick too much because I get the oil changed every 5K. No drips in the garage so why mess with it.....obviously it is stressful for some to look at that thing. I'm not saying don't check your oil, I just want to see some kind of issue resulting from all this talk.
Please don't think I'm being an ass, I'm just wondering if the dealer saying it is normal ops is really correct?
If the Mustangs are not having this trouble why are we? Fuel in oil is not normal at these levels some of us are experiencing, this condition has to be harmful to the engine. It has not been proven at what point yet but it can't be good in the long range outlook! This should be corrected and not left for owners to deal with!!!
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Im not sweating it anymore until i see my oil level rising or there is some sort of recall.
I'm of the same sentiment. I gotta admit, after buying my truck last December, and reading about the oil issue, and smelling fuel in my oil, I was sweating it a little. But when I had my oil changed and tested at 1,000mi, the results were ok. Only a trace of fuel. Luckily, I haven't seen a rise in my oil level either. So, I'm not sweating the fact that I can smell fuel in my oil, as long as it's not a large amount. I know nothing about it, but it seems that these direct injection systems can be prone to allowing some fuel into the oil. I'll be doing another oil test the next change or two, and keeping the oil changes a little more frequent then recommended.

If I had unusual amounts of fuel in my oil, and rising oil levels, I'd be sweating it though.
 

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If the Mustangs are not having this trouble why are we? Fuel in oil is not normal at these levels some of us are experiencing, this condition has to be harmful to the engine. It has not been proven at what point yet but it can't be good in the long range outlook! This should be corrected and not left for owners to deal with!!!
This has been my question several time, what is engineered different on the Ranger vs the mustang and RS 2.3L. There are a few things I could guess could be the issue, however, I am not a Ford mechanic. Give me a 10mm and a Honda B or K series engine and I am your guy. There must be a few service mechanics on the forum that have details or access to files. If its not an hardware issue there must be something going on in one of the ECU.

I would suspect Ford is actually aware of the fuel dilution and with modern engines there are special coatings within them in numerous locations. I absolutely would prefer no fuel in the oil but I suspect this is normal for most if not all Rangers.

In general, I don't see the benefits of direct inject over older manifold injection engines. There are more issues with them vs the old engineering.
 

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In general, I don't see the benefits of direct inject over older manifold injection engines. There are more issues with them vs the old engineering.
Hi Jason,

Ummm Maybe 150 hp increase for DI being much more efficient?
 

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Hi Jason,

Ummm Maybe 150 hp increase for DI being much more efficient?
Ok. I am aware of the more efficient aspect and know better than to argue with you Phil :) That may have been more frustration with past issues like carbon buildup on the back of valves. Cleaning that from my old VW was a pain.

Back on topic and to the ECU possible issue. Is the Ranger the only one that can utilize 89-93 octane? A rich mix could be noticed by the exhaust soot. Is there programing that could be dumping more fuel? Was there not a law suit about the Ranger not getting correct mpg?

At 95 pages on this topic and reading half of it this week. I am guessing!
 

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I'd like to hear Rick Astleys opinion on this Ranger fuel in oil issue. What about it Rick?
 

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If the Mustangs are not having this trouble why are we? Fuel in oil is not normal at these levels some of us are experiencing, this condition has to be harmful to the engine. It has not been proven at what point yet but it can't be good in the long range outlook! This should be corrected and not left for owners to deal with!!!
Jim, I know this issue is a pain in the arse for you and I am very sorry any of you have to deal with this. I guess since I'm a glass half full kinda guy and see how all of you stress about this. I'm sure I would too, but at some point I would just see what happens. Keep track of what Ford does with others reporting the problem. I'm very curious about how many miles the OP (Wade) has on his Ranger? It's been many moons since this thread started, October 22, 2019 to be exact. Anyway, there should be some evidence of problems with some of these trucks after that amount of time and miles. Just trying to be positive....
 

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Well add another to the list. 1800 miles on the truck.

Was told this was normal by the dealer?

Asked to see any documentation starting the oil level above top hole was a normal operating level.

They then told me to bring it in Saturday morning to do their oil change and seal her up for a 1k run and check it again.


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Well add another to the list. 1800 miles on the truck.

Was told this was normal by the dealer?

Asked to see any documentation starting the oil level above top hole was a normal operating level.

They then told me to bring it in Saturday morning to do their oil change and seal her up for a 1k run and check it again.


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How long did you wait before checking the dipstick?
Did you check and make sure that was not the original level it was to begin with?
 

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I thought I heard that the mustangs include an EOM catch can?
No, they do not have and OEM catch can. I installed a Mishimoto on my 2016 ecoboost mustang. The oil has a gas smell in the mustang, but the oil level does not change. I can even run 87 octane in it, but it reduces the power levels.
 

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How long did you wait before checking the dipstick?
Did you check and make sure that was not the original level it was to begin with?
I checked it once around 500 miles and it was half way between the top hash line and the top hole..
At that level I did not give it a second thought..
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