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Thinking about filling a report with the NHTSA! See what they think about being ordered to drive around with 12,13, % or even higher of fuel dilution!!
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That's gonna be my next step seeing a lawyer. Talked to a supervisor today and just made another call and they tell me nobody can do anything further!
Being in the same boat, I can surely relate to how frustrating and hopeless this situation actually is. I have been a lifelong Ford guy, 50+ years, but how they are dealing with this issue is testing my loyalty. How Ford can tell us to ignore the oil level and that it is OK, probably goes against what they state in every Owner's manual they have ever printed. Double digit Fuel contamination is not going to hurt anything, oil viscosity out of spec after 500 miles is not an issue. Obviously, people should not be worried about Oil brand or oil change frequencies below what is recommended, or whether to use synthetic, or synthetic blend, or whatever? Stupid me, I have been buying quality synthetics and changing at shorter intervals for years, I wish Ford would have told me all this a long time ago.

I have resigned myself to the realization that I got a lemon and the only resolution I can foresee, is if the engine let's go before the warranty expires. It really takes the enjoyment out of ownership. I have a pile of aftermarket parts, that I would like to install, but I have been waiting for this issue to be resolved. These parts have been sitting in my garage since springtime.
 
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I tried numerous times, whether it was the dealership, Ford Customer Service, or the Ford Field Service Engineer, after being told it was safe to drive my vehicle and ignore the rising oil level, they absolutely would not put that in writing, or on the service ticket, or even in an email. Both the dealership and Ford Customer service both deflected to the decision as coming from the Ford Field Service Engineer, but I was not allowed to have any direst contact with the person. Ford Customer Service went as far to say that the dealership violated policy by giving me a copy of an email they received from the Field Engineer. So, the person making all the decisions on what service is to be done on my truck for this issue, and is the one directing me to drive it without even checking the oil level, and that it is safe to do, is a person I am not allowed to have any contact with. Sounds like they their bases covered.
Except they are in contradiction with their owners manual on excess crank case level
 
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Add me to the list.
Every phone call I've made I've been using your case as a prime example as to how bad this situation is and how irresponsible this is of Ford. I got so mad today I hung up on the so called supervisor I talked to!
 


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Except they are in contradiction with their owners manual on excess crank case level
Exactly, I have pointed that out on numerous occasions. From the Field Service Engineer, indirectly, filtered thru the dealer, "after seeing more of this issue with other Ford Ranger owners, the fuel dilution and high oil levels may turn out just to be a characteristic of the Rangers 2.3L engine, and nothing to worry about". I questioned him back, thru the dealer, that my oil level continues to rise, and he replied, supposedly, "that is why we are having you continue to drive the truck to 5000 miles, take another oil sample, and gauge if the fuel dilution gets worse or stays relatively the same". The same would be 12-13% dilution, which I guess is OK, but my oil level is much higher than that now. It's very frustrating that I am not allowed to talk directly to the Field Service Engineer, as he is the one calling the shots, and I have no idea what information is shared between him and the dealership.
 

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Exactly, I have pointed that out on numerous occasions. From the Field Service Engineer, indirectly, filtered thru the dealer, "after seeing more of this issue with other Ford Ranger owners, the fuel dilution and high oil levels may turn out just to be a characteristic of the Rangers 2.3L engine, and nothing to worry about". I questioned him back, thru the dealer, that my oil level continues to rise, and he replied, supposedly, "that is why we are having you continue to drive the truck to 5000 miles, take another oil sample, and gauge if the fuel dilution gets worse or stays relatively the same". The same would be 12-13% dilution, which I guess is OK, but my oil level is much higher than that now. It's very frustrating that I am not allowed to talk directly to the Field Service Engineer, as he is the one calling the shots, and I have no idea what information is shared between him and the dealership.
Sounds like a fly by night outfit, instead of a supposedly reputable company!!
 

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Sounds like a fly by night outfit, instead of a supposedly reputable company!!
Yes, I have also found out that Ford Customer Service has closed my case, even though I still have an ongoing service ticket with the dealership. I never received any paperwork from the last time my truck was at the dealer for 2 weeks. I was told I would not get any paperwork while it was still an open ticket. I talked to a Ford Customer Service Supervisor and they told me they would reopen the case when I go back in for the dealership to finish the warranty service, after I get to 5000 miles on this oil change. This kind of pissed me off, they closed my case while it is still on-going?
 

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Yes, I have also found out that Ford Customer Service has closed my case, even though I still have an ongoing service ticket with the dealership. I never received any paperwork from the last time my truck was at the dealer for 2 weeks. I was told I would not get any paperwork while it was still an open ticket. I talked to a Ford Customer Service Supervisor and they told me they would reopen the case when I go back in for the dealership to finish the warranty service, after I get to 5000 miles on this oil change. This kind of pissed me off, they closed my case while it is still on-going?
Really terrible way to take care of your customers. If Ford continues down this road they will decline as an American auto and truck manufacturer! Very shady practices!!
 

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Tip of the day! All you guys having problems with severe fuel dilution that change their own oil.( FORGET ABOUT THE .2 JUST PUT IN 6 OTS., ON SECOND THOUGHTS MAYBE 5 WOULD BE GOOD) LOL Have to try and put some humor in this to avoid breaking things!!
 

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To bad folks with the "Engine Making Oil" issue aren't responding to this thread..

Fuel in oil engine build date

seems like a good way to possibly see if there was just a batch of bad parts that's the issue.
 

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To bad folks with the "Engine Making Oil" issue aren't responding to this thread..

Fuel in oil engine build date

seems like a good way to possibly see if there was just a batch of bad parts that's the issue.
I just posted over there, Feb 13, 2019 build date for my engine.
 

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Well I just got off the phone with Ford custom so called service. Spoke to a supervisor they tell me there's nothing they can do my truck is operating under normal operating conditions. Oil was just changed at the dealership less than 200 miles ago and was already about a quarter inch from the twist. That's normal operating conditions. Never been this frustrated in my life. Nobody has my back in this mess!!
So sorry you're having this problem. It's ridiculous.
 

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To bad folks with the "Engine Making Oil" issue aren't responding to this thread..

Fuel in oil engine build date

seems like a good way to possibly see if there was just a batch of bad parts that's the issue.
To bad folks with the "Engine Making Oil" issue aren't responding to this thread..

Fuel in oil engine build date

seems like a good way to possibly see if there was just a batch of bad parts that's the issue.
I'll post mine 5/9/19. !
 

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Really terrible way to take care of your customers. If Ford continues down this road they will decline as an American auto and truck manufacturer! Very shady practices!!
It makes you wonder how they explain the fact that there are other 2.3eco ranger owners out there that aren't having the gas in oil issue
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