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I wonder if it's possible you are hearing the hpfp like on mine when it cools down some. Not the truck but the ambient temp. Once it's 50 to 60s I hear what I thought was ping but it's the noisy fuel system. I'm about to order an engine cover to see if that helps cut down on the noise.
Have you ordered it yet? If not hit me up I just got one in the mail that I don’t need would love to sell it to you so it goes to a good home so to speak
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Have you ordered it yet? If not hit me up I just got one in the mail that I don’t need would love to sell it to you so it goes to a good home so to speak

bah; already got one on it. Thank you for the offer!
 

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Alright so I have an update. Spark plugs have been replaced and I've topped the truck off with half a tank of 93 octane. My gas mileage has improved from 16.4 to 18.9 in the 50 miles I've driven it; however, the pinging has not gone away by any stretch of the imagination. Doing the math, even with the increased fuel mileage, I'm spending 2 cents per mile more running premium over 87 octane with no improvement with the pinging issue. I'm about to go out and buy a stock filter. Will update again when I run it another 50 miles. Thanks everyone
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Also 87+93=91 and if the truck is looking for 93 your gonna get pinging sadly.... You need get the ECU re-flashed asap with a dealer. Stop dicking around.
 
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Also 87+93=91 and if the truck is looking for 93 your gonna get pinging sadly.... You need get the ECU re-flashed asap with a dealer. Stop dicking around.
If you had read my previous posts you would know I had a drop off scheduled with the dealer, and if consulting with other Ford owners is dicking around, what are you doing on here?......Anyways I have an update....So I finally got my truck back after leaving it at the dealer for 2 weeks. They said there was no tune on the ECU and all the parameters were where they were supposed to be. So basically they told me there was nothing they could do except write Ford and hope that they get enough complaints that they do something about it. The service manager told me to just put some Lucas fuel cleaner into it..guess it's time to buy a Chevy
 

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Sounds like a plan.
Let us know how that goes and be sure to share pics of your new ride along with a comparison of the vehicles.
We always like to see what folks buy to replace their Rangers.
 


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If you had read my previous posts you would know I had a drop off scheduled with the dealer, and if consulting with other Ford owners is dicking around, what are you doing on here?......Anyways I have an update....So I finally got my truck back after leaving it at the dealer for 2 weeks. They said there was no tune on the ECU and all the parameters were where they were supposed to be. So basically they told me there was nothing they could do except write Ford and hope that they get enough complaints that they do something about it. The service manager told me to just put some Lucas fuel cleaner into it..guess it's time to buy a Chevy
Great, move on then. It’s a normal noise. Probably a lot like the Chevy you want so bad.
 

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Big caution:

Do not use 93 octane if it is E-30! The engine is only rated for E-15 or less; Do not use fuel that is higher than that, like E-30, E-85 or Flexfuel, or it can mess with the injector nozzles and emissions equipment.
I think the concern over E30 is misplaced (having run it a lot). From browsing the Mustang Ecoboost forums issues become common with E50 and above - good luck finding that... I suspect the performance benefits start dropping off ahead of a 50/50 mix anyway without modification.

It's obvious Ford uses components that can handle ethanol and the limitations are probably flow rate, sensor bandwidth and software. I noticed that even in South Florida I was emptying the catch can pretty frequently so the caution could be about how much moisture gets attracted to the blow by and ends up in the crank case.

I suspect because E30 is not common Ford didn't bother testing or certifying the motor for it. The octane rating is 94 which is a pretty awesome driving experience and I think timing advance isn't going to be outside what the ECM (even with a tune) can handle. E85 is like 104 octane and it's pretty well known that to run it requires extensive modification.

If you see a gas pump button with an 88 (octane) you're looking at E15. Probably the most cost effective fuel if it's available but I doubt any better performance with a stock tune and too low for how I asked Unleashed to design mine.

P.S. Get the engine cover while you can. Mine came with it and from posts on the forum it seems to dampen the fuel pump noise. If I could add more sound absorbing to the area/hood I'd consider it for myself.
 
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Great, move on then. It’s a normal noise. Probably a lot like the Chevy you want so bad.
Okay look, if preignition rattle is a "normal" noise for a newer Ford truck, then Ford mucked up pretty bad. Even with a full tank of 93, it's still pinging like a sob. Pinging may be normal in the world of crappily designed trucks, but its not normal in any commercially produced truck of good quality. Ford is supposed to be one of those good ones, so why is it pinging? Living with it and just calling it a "normal" noise its going to prevent Ford from actually doing anything about it (if it is a common issue) and potentially decrease the life of our trucks. Preigition doesn't usually cause damage, but thats only ususally. Why would you be okay with that?
 

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My Ranger makes some kind of snap snap noise under moderate acceleration. Not really ping as far as I can tell. I was told it might be turbo blow off.
Anyhoo, if your certain it's pinging, then drive the f*** out of it. Eventually it will burn a hole in the piston and then you have your proof.
Also, if you put your phone in the engine compartment of your new Chevy, you might be surprised at the noise. Or not.
 

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Okay look, if preignition rattle is a "normal" noise for a newer Ford truck, then Ford mucked up pretty bad. Even with a full tank of 93, it's still pinging like a sob. Pinging may be normal in the world of crappily designed trucks, but its not normal in any commercially produced truck of good quality. Ford is supposed to be one of those good ones, so why is it pinging? Living with it and just calling it a "normal" noise its going to prevent Ford from actually doing anything about it (if it is a common issue) and potentially decrease the life of our trucks. Preigition doesn't usually cause damage, but thats only ususally. Why would you be okay with that?
My best guess is that most of our Rangers don't actually ping. Mine sure doesn't, but I've run 91 octane from top tier gas sellers since buying it. I don't know how much difference that may actually make, but thats my personal experience.
As for sounds in general, mine often sounds like a Singer sewing machine, and the engine cover does seem to muffle that a wee bit, so there's that.

You gotta be happy with your ride. If you're not, and can't get that noise fixed to your satisfaction, then maybe you should buy something else that gives you peace of mind. People do that every day with all kinds of things.

Don't forget to post pics and a comparison if you do decide to move on, because we actually do like to see such things if they happen.
 

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Okay look, if preignition rattle is a "normal" noise for a newer Ford truck, then Ford mucked up pretty bad. Even with a full tank of 93, it's still pinging like a sob. Pinging may be normal in the world of crappily designed trucks, but its not normal in any commercially produced truck of good quality. Ford is supposed to be one of those good ones, so why is it pinging?
None of us have been able to analyze your truck noise in person - it seems the consensus is what you're hearing that is new, loud and unusual to someone who hasn't experienced it before is the fuel pump. You might have to ride or drive another Ranger to compare. Maybe the servicing dealer would accommodate you to find out unless another forum member near you is willing to meet up.
 
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My best guess is that most of our Rangers don't actually ping. Mine sure doesn't, but I've run 91 octane from top tier gas sellers since buying it. I don't know how much difference that may actually make, but thats my personal experience.
As for sounds in general, mine often sounds like a Singer sewing machine, and the engine cover does seem to muffle that a wee bit, so there's that.

You gotta be happy with your ride. If you're not, and can't get that noise fixed to your satisfaction, then maybe you should buy something else that gives you peace of mind. People do that every day with all kinds of things.

Don't forget to post pics and a comparison if you do decide to move on, because we actually do like to see such things if they happen.
I agree, and I like this truck but engine problems early in the vehicle's life is not a good sign. All the small things I can get over, as long as the truck is reliable. I'm going to try a colder plug to see if that helps at all.
 

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Okay look, if preignition rattle is a "normal" noise for a newer Ford truck, then Ford mucked up pretty bad. Even with a full tank of 93, it's still pinging like a sob. Pinging may be normal in the world of crappily designed trucks, but its not normal in any commercially produced truck of good quality. Ford is supposed to be one of those good ones, so why is it pinging? Living with it and just calling it a "normal" noise its going to prevent Ford from actually doing anything about it (if it is a common issue) and potentially decrease the life of our trucks. Preigition doesn't usually cause damage, but thats only ususally. Why would you be okay with that?
Because the noise I heard is not pinging. And the fact it didn’t change any with more octane seems to indicate it’s not pinging.
 
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None of us have been able to analyze your truck noise in person - it seems the consensus is what you're hearing that is new, loud and unusual to someone who hasn't experienced it before is the fuel pump. You might have to ride or drive another Ranger to compare. Maybe the servicing dealer would accommodate you to find out unless another forum member near you is willing to meet up.
The service manager over at the dealership took a ride with me and he heard it. He's supposed to be writing Ford about it to see what they say. As for the sound of the noise in general, my old Dodge had the same noise but much louder. I had a guy - who was pretty knowledgeable about cars (especially Fords) - look at it and he identified it as engine ping. I was able to almost eliminate the pinging issue in that engine with better fuel and by installing a new plenum gasket. Also, any video you watch on youtube demonstrating engine ping has the same noise. I posted a video clip that had the audio a few pages back. It's hard to hear in the cab because the mic pics up too much road noise, so I placed the phone on top of the engine cover. You can hear the ticking noise at the time I specified in that post.
 
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Because the noise I heard is not pinging. And the fact it didn’t change any with more octane seems to indicate it’s not pinging.
I don't think we're hearing the same noise then.
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