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I'm excited about the option to combine the V6 with a manual gearbox - the only reason I originally ordered the 2.3 was so I could get the manual transmission. Although I also ordered the 2 door, which was before I knew we were going to have our second kid next year. I guess I'll spend some time with B&P to see what's what once it becomes available for MY22. In the meantime I'll have some fun with the Tremor, and leave the black diamond trails for my Beta (dirt bike).
They had 2 manuals there but I wanted to drive something similar to my build so I chose the Wildtrak. We didn't get to do any high speed desert driving but you could feel a huge difference with the responsiveness if the v6. My Ranger is tuned and I usually flash back to stock when I'm off road because it's to much down low but this felt perfect. I drove a 4 dr Badlands on the road back in July but I do hope to try a 2 dr v6 on the road before mine comes in. Not a big deal but I'd like to really see what it can do. ?
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They had 2 manuals there but I wanted to drive something similar to my build so I chose the Wildtrak. We didn't get to do any high speed desert driving but you could feel a huge difference with the responsiveness if the v6. My Ranger is tuned and I usually flash back to stock when I'm off road because it's to much down low but this felt perfect. I drove a 4 dr Badlands on the road back in July but I do hope to try a 2 dr v6 on the road before mine comes in. Not a big deal but I'd like to really see what it can do. ?
Ah that's interesting, as I was planning on the Ford Performance tune for the Ranger. Guess I'll just have to test and see.

So many options, but only room for one more car in the garage...
 

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Nice video! I hope they use that obstacle again later to test midsized trucks. I wonder how well the Ranger would do in one of our fancy trail control modes (why donā€™t we have a rock crawl mode?)
 

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Let's be honest, these guys dont know how to offroad to begin with. Also, true AT tires make a big difference, especially if you let some of the air out on this type of terrain.
 

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I noticed at the beginning of the video that the Frontier couldn't make the sharp turn and had to stop.

The video cut away immediately after it had to stop.

Also saw this and had to laugh.

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Let's be honest, these guys dont know how to offroad to begin with. Also, true AT tires make a big difference, especially if you let some of the air out on this type of terrain.
I am no offroad specialist, but I can see these guy's do not know what they are doing. Anyone can have a You tube channel. How about they take some training.
 

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Let's be honest, these guys dont know how to offroad to begin with. Also, true AT tires make a big difference, especially if you let some of the air out on this type of terrain.
In a way thou, isn't it kind of a good thing? Being an average off-roader you get a review from the perspective of most buyers. Sure you can have a professional push it to it's limits or the Stig put down some impressive lap times. But then you'll get inexperienced drivers hopping in and thinking they can do the same, then be disappointed or worse injured.
 

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In a way thou, isn't it kind of a good thing? Being an average off-roader you get a review from the perspective of most buyers. Sure you can have a professional push it to it's limits or the Stig put down some impressive lap times. But then you'll get inexperienced drivers hopping in and thinking they can do the same, then be disappointed or worse injured.
Maybe. My thought is that the more you educate people (generally) the safer their actions become. For example, if they'd shown these guys airing down and explaining why, then the average Joe would at least have an understanding of what is required for the vehicle to do what they're asking it to do.
The video, as-is, is probably more likely to result in "hold my beer" moments where the still-uneducated try similar scenarios themselves and don't know when to quit or why they're not successful.

FWIW, this is a much more likely scenario for injury in my opinion.
 

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Maybe. My thought is that the more you educate people (generally) the safer their actions become. For example, if they'd shown these guys airing down and explaining why, then the average Joe would at least have an understanding of what is required for the vehicle to do what they're asking it to do.
The video, as-is, is probably more likely to result in "hold my beer" moments where the still-uneducated try similar scenarios themselves and don't know when to quit or why they're not successful.

FWIW, this is a much more likely scenario for injury in my opinion.
TBH I haven't watched this particular video, but I've seen a bunch of theirs in the past. The problem also is there's not a lot of reviewers that take the trucks beyond a gravel road. I do agree, they should be educating as they review. Some of their videos they've explained the benefits of airing down etc. But that opens another can of worms, Joe Average buys a new truck & saw the reviewer air down and looses a bead. I guess it's kind of a double edge sword, Dunning Kruger Effect and all.
 

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70k Bronco with every advantage out does 45k Frontier driven by an idiot. Shocking ??
 
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Iā€˜ve heard TFL and other pro reviewers state that the manufacturer does not allow them to modify the vehicle provided for the review in any way, including airing down. They have to test it as the consumer would buy it.
 

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Iā€˜ve heard TFL and other pro reviewers state that the manufacturer does not allow them to modify the vehicle provided for the review in any way, including airing down. They have to test it as the consumer would buy it.
That's interesting. I hadn't heard that. I guess it would make sense. I feel like those rules make a lot more sense on the road where things are fairly predictable. Thanks for sharing that though.
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