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AT's are better than MT's but not as good as dedicated snow tires.
We don't get tons of snow in PA and I've always gotten by fine in my 4x4's with AT's but my wife's Chrysler minivans with Blizzaks go as good as my trucks in snow and probably stop and turn better.
We got the first snow to amount to anything over Christmas so I got to try out the Cooper AT3's I got last summer. Going and turning was fine, stopping was a little iffy and the ABS got a workout.
Hiya Jon... Super interested in the Cooper AT3s or XLT's w/ the 65k mi. warranty as my replacements in a couple of months. I've read that they are quiet and smooth running tires. What size did you go with? Happen to have any pics??
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Thanks for replying! I've been driving in snow for 2 yrs now. But 1st year I had accident while I curved on the icy road w/ AWD then I search how to drive in snow so I learned some then this year which is my 2nd yr I had another accident while I curved as I went downhill on the icy road. I did what I've learned from 1st accident but at this time I didn't aware of 4WD. Because I put it on 4H then off traction control then operated my truck. That's why I was looking for diff lock or TM if that helps. But I see this could helps but not really. So I have to take another practices on the icy road then I just learned how to use +/- on the gear stick.

Thanks for your advice.!
No person who is googling how to drive in the snow/ice should EVER be turning their traction control off.

Wherever you've been getting your advice from, you should stop taking it.

A person like you wants all the nannies on.
 

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Hiya Jon... Super interested in the Cooper AT3s or XLT's w/ the 65k mi. warranty as my replacements in a couple of months. I've read that they are quiet and smooth running tires. What size did you go with? Happen to have any pics??
They're quiet and good in rain. I got 265/70-17's. They fit fine stock but I have a 1.5" level that's not installed yet.
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No person who is googling how to drive in the snow/ice should EVER be turning their traction control off.

Wherever you've been getting your advice from, you should stop taking it.

A person like you wants all the nannies on.
That's why I'm researching and try in my experience. I want to be independent so I don't have to ask a question but in order to be at my goal I have to keep asking for what could be the better options. I'm pretty knowledgeable person except the subjects that I never been through. This topic that I mentioned could be that.
I'm not a person who wants all nannies on me. So you shouldn't say to person whatever you wanna say when you don't know that person. Also if you do know some there is things that you don't know. As I know a lot of things that you don't know.
 

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That's why I'm researching and try in my experience. I want to be independent so I don't have to ask a question but in order to be at my goal I have to keep asking for what could be the better options.
I'm not a person who wants all nannies on me. So you shouldn't say to person whatever you wanna say when you don't know that person.
You apparently don't know what you want. This entire thread is about you asking how to enable MORE nannies. Yet you're intentionally disabling those that you have.

Despite your "feelings" on the subject, when you're new, you want all the help you can get. Guaranteed that disabling traction control played a factor in your wreck.

Sometimes you've got to keep your own ego in check. There's nothing wrong with being inexperienced. Don't be ignorant.

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You apparently don't know what you want. This entire thread is about you asking how to enable MORE nannies. Yet you're intentionally disabling those that you have.

Despite your "feelings" on the subject, when you're new, you want all the help you can get. Guaranteed that disabling traction control played a factor in your wreck.

Sometimes you've got to keep your own ego in check. There's nothing wrong with being inexperienced. Don't be ignorant.

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So pretty much the way you are telling me is bening a nanny yourself. All the things that you metioned of course I did and everyone assume that this person may tried already because we're grown man. But then when the accident happened I turned back and thought what was wrong from that so I search different thing if that works. But I do not know what is actually diff lockers do as well as traction control so I asked on this forum is it wrong way to gether information? I don't think so. You said don't be ignorant. But I want to say being an ignorant is when you are confident because you thought you knows everything. But I also take your advice thanks ?
 

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So pretty much the way you are telling me is bening a nanny yourself. All the things that you metioned of course I did and everyone assume that this person may tried already because we're grown man. But then when the accident happened I turned back and thought what was wrong from that so I search different thing if that works. But I do not know what is actually diff lockers do as well as traction control so I asked on this forum is it wrong way to gether information? I don't think so. You said don't be ignorant. But I want to say being an ignorant is when you are confident because you thought you knows everything. But I also take your advice thanks ?
A good rule of thumb for new drivers. If you have no idea what it does, don't turn it off.
 

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So pretty much the way you are telling me is bening a nanny yourself. All the things that you metioned of course I did and everyone assume that this person may tried already because we're grown man. But then when the accident happened I turned back and thought what was wrong from that so I search different thing if that works. But I do not know what is actually diff lockers do as well as traction control so I asked on this forum is it wrong way to gether information? I don't think so. You said don't be ignorant. But I want to say being an ignorant is when you are confident because you thought you knows everything. But I also take your advice thanks ?
:rolleyes:

There's also a thing called being humble and acknowledging what you do and do not know. And you can't seem to make up your mind about whether you want to be humble or not.

At times you're cocky and overconfident. And this is why you don't want to disable settings on your vehicle, especially when you don't know what they do. It's gonna bite you in the ass. And it did bite you in the ass.

I haven't actually found myself in a situation where turning off the traction control was useful for me. The things I'm most likely to turn off are the parking sensors, lane departure, and other road-focused features when I'm driving off-road. And usually not until I get in a situation where that setting is bothering me (mostly because I forget to push all the buttons to turn that stuff off). There. I said it. I leave traction control on when I'm driving off-road. I simply haven't found myself in a situation where it got in my way. ESPECIALLY on-road. I really don't miss my back tires spinning on the painted lines at intersections when it's wet outside (as used to happen regularly on pre-traction control pickup trucks I've driven).

Also, asking questions in a forum probably shouldn't be your first step for information on a subject, either. You should probably make an attempt to locate the information elsewhere. Info about differential lockers is all over the place. There are some really good sources (especially in this case, videos on youtube) that explain what they are and when they're best used. My Ranger is my first vehicle with a locker and I spent a good bit of time watching some of those videos to learn about it. Save your forum questions for after you've looked at other information and have additional questions.

The terrain management settings do what they're supposed to do, which is to help keep your tires turning when you want to go forward (by adjusting the traction control settings). But they don't prevent you from driving too fast for the conditions. There's no vehicle system that does that. That one is on the driver, always.
 
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:rolleyes:

There's also a thing called being humble and acknowledging what you do and do not know. And you can't seem to make up your mind about whether you want to be humble or not.

At times you're cocky and overconfident. And this is why you don't want to disable settings on your vehicle, especially when you don't know what they do. It's gonna bite you in the ass. And it did bite you in the ass.

I haven't actually found myself in a situation where turning off the traction control was useful for me. The things I'm most likely to turn off are the parking sensors, lane departure, and other road-focused features when I'm driving off-road. And usually not until I get in a situation where that setting is bothering me (mostly because I forget to push all the buttons to turn that stuff off). There. I said it. I leave traction control on when I'm driving off-road. I simply haven't found myself in a situation where it got in my way. ESPECIALLY on-road. I really don't miss my back tires spinning on the painted lines at intersections when it's wet outside (as used to happen regularly on pre-traction control pickup trucks I've driven).

Also, asking questions in a forum probably shouldn't be your first step for information on a subject, either. You should probably make an attempt to locate the information elsewhere. Info about differential lockers is all over the place. There are some really good sources (especially in this case, videos on youtube) that explain what they are and when they're best used. My Ranger is my first vehicle with a locker and I spent a good bit of time watching some of those videos to learn about it. Save your forum questions for after you've looked at other information and have additional questions.

The terrain management settings do what they're supposed to do, which is to help keep your tires turning when you want to go forward (by adjusting the traction control settings). But they don't prevent you from driving too fast for the conditions. There's no vehicle system that does that. That one is on the driver, always.
Thanks for your all paragraphs but I think you and the person in previous misunderstood me. Because asking in forum also could be my information source. I'm not just asking without any research on it but also gathering more information on this. I also watched YouTube but for example, YouTube can just says this is the must have item. I watched a YouTube vedio that shows traction test on the snow there is differences between diff lock and TM (please don't go too far that is not the only one vedio that I've been watching) it seems like diff lock and TM kinda helps on the snow. However, as I looked the all replies on my questions most people said no need for those. So all resources can tell me different so I have to analyze myself. Also you mentioned humble. But I don't even know why you mentioned that to me. I have no clue why you are saying that I need to be humble not being a cocky person. But I'm trying my best to be humble all the time so thanks for advice anyway. Everything that I've replying to the previous person because he misunderstood me like you that I need a more nannies or you're saying that I'm not a humble because you thought I'm only trusting my knowledge but I'm not. That is why I'm asking questions. I think asking is one of the step for being humble.
 

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:rolleyes:

There's also a thing called being humble and acknowledging what you do and do not know. And you can't seem to make up your mind about whether you want to be humble or not.

At times you're cocky and overconfident. And this is why you don't want to disable settings on your vehicle, especially when you don't know what they do. It's gonna bite you in the ass. And it did bite you in the ass.

I haven't actually found myself in a situation where turning off the traction control was useful for me. The things I'm most likely to turn off are the parking sensors, lane departure, and other road-focused features when I'm driving off-road. And usually not until I get in a situation where that setting is bothering me (mostly because I forget to push all the buttons to turn that stuff off). There. I said it. I leave traction control on when I'm driving off-road. I simply haven't found myself in a situation where it got in my way. ESPECIALLY on-road. I really don't miss my back tires spinning on the painted lines at intersections when it's wet outside (as used to happen regularly on pre-traction control pickup trucks I've driven).

Also, asking questions in a forum probably shouldn't be your first step for information on a subject, either. You should probably make an attempt to locate the information elsewhere. Info about differential lockers is all over the place. There are some really good sources (especially in this case, videos on youtube) that explain what they are and when they're best used. My Ranger is my first vehicle with a locker and I spent a good bit of time watching some of those videos to learn about it. Save your forum questions for after you've looked at other information and have additional questions.

The terrain management settings do what they're supposed to do, which is to help keep your tires turning when you want to go forward (by adjusting the traction control settings). But they don't prevent you from driving too fast for the conditions. There's no vehicle system that does that. That one is on the driver, always.
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That's why I'm researching and try in my experience. I want to be independent so I don't have to ask a question but in order to be at my goal I have to keep asking for what could be the better options. I'm pretty knowledgeable person except the subjects that I never been through. This topic that I mentioned could be that.
I'm not a person who wants all nannies on me. So you shouldn't say to person whatever you wanna say when you don't know that person. Also if you do know some there is things that you don't know. As I know a lot of things that you don't know.
He is not wrong. Leave all nannies on. 2 accidents in the snow and ice shows a lack of experience. Not that it is bad, we all start somewhere. Start slow, nannies on.
 
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I also misunderstood that word saying be nannies on. I took this as aggressive word but sounds like it's not. And yes I am accepting myself that I'm a beginner so could make mistakes. My attitude has been as a learner or like a student not that being a arrogant person. If I have had someone feeling bad I want to say my apologies. But thanks y'all advice!
 

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I'm a 2-wheel drive XL, so only traction control and no locker.

I'm also a frog, so lots of winter driving back in the day of only rear-wheel drive cars.

I love (LOVE) Nokian tires, like suggested earlier, but I have the stock Bridgestones AND 200 pounds of sand in the bed (not much difference and 400 would probably be better.

For local, very slippery driving with some ice and snow on the road, I have rear wheel chains (Konig XG-12). BUT ... chains are overkill for most and can damage your tires.

If you get lots of ice, studded tires (if legal and available) are phenomenal but can be tough on gas mileage and also at highway speeds.

One last thought, turning off traction control may be helpful in snow (opinions differ on this point).
 

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I also misunderstood that word saying be nannies on.
nannies( a person, in particular a woman, employed to look after a child in its own home. ) refer to all those computer controlled modern safety features that work 99% of the time. but in the case where you are stuck in sand or snow you need them turned off to spin tires and help get out... or do doughnuts in the snow. the best way to learn to drive in bad conditions is to drive in bad conditions but in a safe controlled environment like an empty parking lot
 

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Going to ignore the dick measuring contest above me here for a moment.

I am not familiar with adding terrain management as an aftermarket feature. I imagine it would require some finnagling with forscan.

As far as a locker goes, there are aftermarket locker options for the Ranger - ARB air locker comes to mind. This could be controlled with an aftermarket button box such as Auxbeam. That being said, I do not think a locker will help you much in snow/ice driving on road. I only really use mine while wheeling.
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