2.3L Ecoboost on Conventional vs. Synthetic Oil

[Burnt Money]

I haven’t really paid attention to the miles at my oil change interval. I’ve been changing at 50% oil life, which is usually 5 to 6k miles and twice a year. Mobil 1 using Motorcraft filters. I’ll have to look next time, and at 67k miles do an analysis next change

I checked the correlation of mileage vs percentage over 5 oil changes. Can’t remember the exact numbers but 50% was in between 4800ish and 5500ish each of the 5 times. Now I just do it at 50% or sooner. But I also tow a decent amount so that may be why mine is lower. Just a guess though lol.

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[TJC]

Yes, but you are saving the planet by eliminating 1/2 cup of exhaust and saving 1/247 th gallon of gas by not idling....which is the whole reason for the stop/start stupidity.

And this is over the life of the truck!

Seriously, I am the only one who has noticed that the 5Gs do not allow the drive train to coast when coming to a stop? They appear to actually use engine braking when coasting / coming to a stop.

I suspect it has to do with the regenerative charging system, but once that is disabled engine braking is not desirable.

Has anyone flashed the transmission to stop this? My 2005 Ranger will coast much farther then my 2020 Ranger.

There is so much more extraneous crap added to the truck to support ASS it isn't funny. For instance, Added pumps in the cooling system and transmission come to mind, but I am sure there is more going on besides this.

You wonder why vehicles cost so much to purchase and repair... this is a part of the equation.

 

[dtech]

And this is over the life of the truck!

Seriously, I am the only one who has noticed that the 5Gs do not allow the drive train to coast when coming to a stop? They appear to actually use engine braking when coasting / coming to a stop.

I suspect it has to do with the regenerative charging system, but once that is disabled engine braking is not desirable.

Could be also to keep some boost available for engine responsiveness.

 

[Charley]

A few vehicles back, when I started using full synth, I reverted back to my youth and just do the 6 months or 6,000 mile oil change. A little bit easier these days, as you don't have to jam an oil spout into that damned metal topped cardboard container anymore..

 

[SFB]

I checked the correlation of mileage vs percentage over 5 oil changes. Can’t remember the exact numbers but 50% was in between 4800ish and 5500ish each of the 5 times. Now I just do it at 50% or sooner. But I also tow a decent amount so that may be why mine is lower. Just a guess though lol.

Mine is 98% city/suburb. I’m semi retired and for about 2 years was fully retired. When fully retired I paid attention to mileage, lots of short trip, very short. If less than 5k in 6 months oil would get changed mainly because I know there was fuel dilution. I have my oil changes done at a ford dealership. Dont change my own anymore because of physical restrictions. That bugs me too because I’m anal about priming the engine on an oil change.

 

[TomSim]

Pretty sure these are not twin turbos, twin spool maybe.

They call it a twin turbo, so do i

 

[TomSim]

And this is over the life of the truck!

Seriously, I am the only one who has noticed that the 5Gs do not allow the drive train to coast when coming to a stop? They appear to actually use engine braking when coasting / coming to a stop.

I suspect it has to do with the regenerative charging system, but once that is disabled engine braking is not desirable.

Has anyone flashed the transmission to stop this? My 2005 Ranger will coast much farther then my 2020 Ranger.

There is so much more extraneous crap added to the truck to support ASS it isn't funny. For instance, Added pumps in the cooling system and transmission come to mind, but I am sure there is more going on besides this.

You wonder why vehicles cost so much to purchase and repair... this is a part of the equation.

regenerative charging system/????? huh

 

[TomSim]

If you use it (I do not), haven't you wondered with all those start/stop cycles on a regular basis, how much raw fuel gets dumped into the cylinders every time, and how much lube is washed away ???
In some way/shape/form it has to affect the oil and how it lubes the engine.

i disable the start stop feature

 

[TJC]

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regenerative charging system/????? huh

On the previous gen Rangers, the alternator charges the battery until it was 100% charge restored, no matter the driving conditions.

The Battery Management system (BMS) on the 5G Rangers is a very sophisticated charging system. The system keeps the battery at 75% charge. The 25% space left is used to turbocharge the battery when coasting or braking. The alternator has a clutch that (de)activates depending on engine conditions.

Cruising or accelerating the alternator clutch disengages and battery may not be charged at all, but when coasting and/or braking the clutch engages, over revving the clutch to dump high voltage spikes into the battery.

This is a simplistic explanation, but is essentially correct. The designers want the engine to stay at RPM as long as possible when coasting / braking when the alternator clutch is engaged to temporarily overcharge the battery.

I don't believe that is it good for engine or transmission life, but that is how the engineers designed the system to work. All for CAFE standards.

 

[TJC]

i disable the start stop feature

Disabling ASS does not disable all the charging design components. I unplugged the Hall effect BMS sensor on the neg battery terminal. This changed the battery charging system to that of the previous gen Rangers, but it did not change the downshift patterns programed into the transmission designed to support the BMS ASS design.

 

[subquark]

200K out of a factory turbo is really good, no matter what oil is in it. I agree with those saying that putting it through the ASS sequences all day might have changed the outcome.

Or a damper .... =p

 

[subquark]

Yes, but you are saving the planet by eliminating 1/2 cup of exhaust and saving 1/247 th gallon of gas by not idling....which is the whole reason for the stop/start stupidity.

Makes for a happy Greta too!

 

[got3fords]

They call it a twin turbo, so do i

Whoever 'they' are, are wrong. G5 Rangers only have one turbo. It's only a 4 cylinder for crying out loud.

 

[AzScorpion]

They call it a twin turbo, so do i

The new 6G Ranger has the option for the 2.7 V6 Twin Turbo. The 2.3 only has a single turbo. Who ever "they" are has no idea what they're talking about.

 

[RedlandRanger]

The new 6G Ranger has the option for the 2.7 V6 Twin Turbo. The 2.3 only has a single turbo. Who ever "they" are has no idea what they're talking about.

I think many people confuse a twin turbo with a twin SCROLL turbo (which is what our engines have).

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