Anyone Running LT Tires with a 10 Ply Rating....Feedback

[Grumpaw]

Looking for feedback from anyone running LT tires with 10 ply ratings. Ride quality with the stiffer sidewalls and higher psi when running with "empty" truck.
Going to a set for the load/towing capacity...towing heavy travel trailer with high hitch weight.
Curious about day to day driving with them, without load.

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[Beez]

Looking for feedback from anyone running LT tires with 10 ply ratings. Ride quality with the stiffer sidewalls and higher psi when running with "empty" truck.
Going to a set for the load/towing capacity...towing heavy travel trailer with high hitch weight.
Curious about day to day driving with them, without load.

Hey Grumpaw, I'm assuming you have 18's with the Lariat, as I have. I've done allot of research on this subject and there's a good bit to consider here. Presently I'm running a 2.5" level kit, 1.5" spacers and have removed my crash bars. I had intended to go from my current 265/60R18's to a 32" or 33" in the coming months. You should keep in mind, that as soon as you go to a 10-ply tire, you're going to go jump up to between 10-15lbs in wheel weight per tire. Seems that all 33" tires available push you into the 10-ply category. This includes 275/70R18's, 285/70, 295/60, 305/60, and of course 33x12.5's. The jump in weight that you pick up in a 10-ply may not be much to the larger V8 trucks, but it will be noticeable to a 4cly. turbo, which affects your mpg more significantly, not to mention brakes and other components that are not as robust as their larger V8 counterparts.. Imagine an extra 10-15lbs of inertia per wheel that the truck has to bring up to speed as well as stop, particularly every time you have to fill up. - Now, I say all that, but I too still want a larger tire to help fill the gap left by my leveler kit. The largest tire you can get, that is still comparable to a 33" 10-ply is a 275/65 weighing in at 44lbs (+/-).

That all being said, I really wanted to go with the Cooper AT3's in a 33". They are American made, (Cooper also makes ProComp, Dick Cepic, and Micky Thompson's), have great reviews and everyone I've spoken to about them say they are much quieter and smoother that many of the other popular competitors available and still looks truck worthy (Sorry Michelin lovers). They also come with a 60-65k mi. warranty... My alternative tire would be the same Coopers in a 275/65/R18, or the BFG Goodrich Trail-Terrain's in the same size. These are both 32" tires, but not 10-ply, so they are much lighter in weight and worth considering.. (see size comparison)

I know that's allot and may not really answer your question, but if you go to Tire.calc.com, you can do allot of your own research and comparisons, as well as view all of the tires in the sizes and compositions you prefer. - Hope this helps!

 

[Grumpaw]

Actually my Lariat, a 2 wheel drive, came with 255/65R/17 tires / 17 inch rims. The tires are Duelers with a 2 ply/ 4 ply rating...basically car tires. Stock lift with no plans to lift.
Diameter is listed as 30.1 inches.
Nearest LT tires in that size are approx. same size are LT245/70r/17, the LT giving them an 8 ply / 10 ply rating with all I have looked at having a max 80 psi rating. I figure I could go one size larger without any problems, but trying to keep as close to OE size. Not concerned with tire weight too much...it will go up about 7 lbs per tire....it is a street driven truck with 60% daily driver and 40% towing. Figure to run 40-45 psi street and 60-65 psi towing.....it's a close to 7000 lb travel trailer with a 700 lb tongue weight.
Looking at Yokohama Geolander AT GO15, Cooper Discoverer HT 3, and MasterCraft (made by Cooper) Stratus AP All Terrain. Several others but they get into higher $$$ with more of an off road tread, which I don't need.
Just curious as to how the Ranger's ride with a tire with a stiff sidewall running more psi than the normal 32-35 in a standard OE tire.

 

[brroberts]

I thought about it when buying new tires, but didn’t getting Continental Terrain Contact AT’s 4 ply instead. I’d like to see if someone has done this and can let us know also. I to am on 17”.

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

Although I ordered 10 ply or E rated tires online, they shipped 8 ply or D rated tires. I didn't notice until a few days after having them installed.

They are LT 285/70-17 Duratracs, and I run them at 39psi for day to day operations. I have no complaints with the ride quality, and plan on E rated for my next set as well. I'm in a Lariat FX4, and also have no complaints with the Ranger suspension.

 

[Canadian Ranger]

Everything I was taught about LT tires, oil, lift-kits, and a lot of other things about trucks apparently doesn't apply anymore.
All that, to say this...If you feel you NEED LT tires, buy them. You'll just have to love them when you're towing, and live with them when you're not towing. I have to do the same with my Duratracs when I'm not offroad and with snow tires during mild Winters with so snow. Tires are a catch 22.

 

[RangerPNW]

Although I ordered 10 ply or E rated tires online, they shipped 8 ply or D rated tires. I didn't notice until a few days after having them installed.

They are LT 285/70-17 Duratracs, and I run them at 39psi for day to day operations. I have no complaints with the ride quality, and plan on E rated for my next set as well. I'm in a Lariat FX4, and also have no complaints with the Ranger suspension.

How much of a hit do you notice with the acceleration and mpg's? My duratracs are the standard load ones (got them plus wheels for basically nothing so no complaints here), and while there was a bit of an mpg hit it wasn't horrible, but i plan to go to what you have when I get new wheels. I also noticed that at least according to what little info i found the D rated duratracs in 285/70/17 are some of the lighter LT tires.

 

[JACKSMYDOG]

How much of a hit do you notice with the acceleration and mpg's? My duratracs are the standard load ones (got them plus wheels for basically nothing so no complaints here), and while there was a bit of an mpg hit it wasn't horrible, but i plan to go to what you have when I get new wheels. I also noticed that at least according to what little info i found the D rated duratracs in 285/70/17 are some of the lighter LT tires.

Acceleration is hard to quantify and MPG I don't really track. I had it lifted and steel bumper installed at dealer before I drove it. Bigger tires and oof rack installed shortly after.

My winters are 4ply 255/70-18 @ 38 lbs, so 1/2" smaller, 1&3/16 narrower, & 13 lbs lighter. I don't notice much if any difference in acceleration.

 

[Frenchy]

I can understand wanting to get a different set of tires since the fa Tory Duelers just dont seem to be up to snuff. Even I didnt like the factory tires on my Ranger.

That said I dont think you need to go to a LT to get what you need. If it were me I would look at the Firestone Destination LE3(have a set on my 1994 F150) or the Michelin LTX M&S in the standard load. Both are good tires and will handle what you need.

The set of Firestones I have on the F150 are 265/75-15(a true 31 if i remember correctly) and it does well on the street and doesnt complain when towing. If anything its the 300 that complains since its not a high power engine. Even the Michelin will do well in the standard load. Those who say you "NEED" an LT to tow are incorrect. Most light vehicles(Ranger included) do just fine without an LT.

 

[D Fresh]

Looking for feedback from anyone running LT tires with 10 ply ratings. Ride quality with the stiffer sidewalls and higher psi when running with "empty" truck.
Going to a set for the load/towing capacity...towing heavy travel trailer with high hitch weight.
Curious about day to day driving with them, without load.

Pretty sure 10 ply is E-Rated. Not LT.

I drive E-Rated tires daily on my Ranger unloaded. They're all my size is available in. They are heavy, yes. You'll feel them over expansion joints and what not. But they don't take much getting used to.

It's a truck, not a Cadillac. Despite the way the engineers tried to tune the suspension.

 

[Dereku]

Pretty sure 10 ply is E-Rated. Not LT.

I drive E-Rated tires daily on my Ranger unloaded. They're all my size is available in. They are heavy, yes. You'll feel them over expansion joints and what not. But they don't take much getting used to.

It's a truck, not a Cadillac. Despite the way the engineers tried to tune the suspension.

I always ran E tires on my full size and really enjoyed them. Stiffer yes but more plantes feeling as well.

 

[Grumpaw]

Pretty sure 10 ply is E-Rated. Not LT.

I drive E-Rated tires daily on my Ranger unloaded. They're all my size is available in. They are heavy, yes. You'll feel them over expansion joints and what not. But they don't take much getting used to.

It's a truck, not a Cadillac. Despite the way the engineers tried to tune the suspension.

Weight dosen't concern me, and yeah, 10 ply is E rated. Most of the LT are E rated, and the standard non LT are more of a commercial type. Will go with the LT as they are E, but also a bit more aggressive and better looking than standard.
I'm definitely aware of how E rated tires ride....had three sets on our previous Ford E-450 based class c motor home...had them pumped up to 70 psi on all 6 tires, and when you hit a pothole, you knew it.
Just getting opinions and feedback like yours helps.

 

[D Fresh]

Weight dosen't concern me, and yeah, 10 ply is E rated. Most of the LT are E rated, and the standard non LT are more of a commercial type. Will go with the LT as they are E, but also a bit more aggressive and better looking than standard.
I'm definitely aware of how E rated tires ride....had three sets on our previous Ford E-450 based class c motor home...had them pumped up to 70 psi on all 6 tires, and when you hit a pothole, you knew it.
Just getting opinions and feedback like yours helps.

For sure.

I run my Toyos at 36 cold. Which puts them around 39 hot. Chalk rest and ride is fine to me. Others might complain.

 

[Grumpaw]

For sure.

I run my Toyos at 36 cold. Which puts them around 39 hot. Chalk rest and ride is fine to me. Others might complain.

Which Toyo's are you running ?
I was also considering the Toyo Open Country H/T ll, LT245/70/17

 

[D Fresh]

Which Toyo's are you running ?
I was also considering the Toyo Open Country H/T ll, LT245/70/17

Open Country AT3 in 255/80 17

Wear on them is nice. I've got close to 30k on mine and I expect them to make the 65k mile treadwear warranty no problem.

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