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Great looking truck Kevin! Well done! You literally built my exact same truck. Mine is a '20 2wd XLT SCAB, oxford white, Sport Appearance. I am going to go with 20' wheels as well. Thank you so much for the thorough and detailed posts and for answering all of our questions. Great Job!

Now I gotta get to shopping.
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I would think that you could at least lower the rear. The kit seems to allow adjustment in rear height and I would imagine it has a fix for pinion angle. Had you considered that?
The vibration thing is most likely speculative and my guess is the statement about a possible issue is a "cover my butt" statement. Just saying. You'll never know until someone gives it a shot
 

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Great looking truck Kevin! Well done! You literally built my exact same truck. Mine is a '20 2wd XLT SCAB, oxford white, Sport Appearance. I am going to go with 20' wheels as well. Thank you so much for the thorough and detailed posts and for answering all of our questions. Great Job!

Now I gotta get to shopping.
AWESOME! Good to know that someone else is going the same route and has good taste. I have a few other items to take care of before I am finished overall. Next step, painting the wheel opening mouldings white.
 

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The vibration thing is most likely speculative and my guess is the statement about a possible issue is a "cover my butt" statement. Just saying. You'll never know until someone gives it a shot
I agree with Kevin, Belltechs statements in regards to 4wd trucks are likely CYA, lawyer stuff. I would do a bit of my own investigating before completely ruling out the Belltech kit. Look at your front halfshafts, if we can safely increase ride height - changing the angle on the CV joints - why can't we safely decrease ride height? The shafts should straighten out if you lower, which leads me to believe that there is less of a chance for problem.
Also consider, if your wear parts on the front driveline would have lasted say 100k miles then maybe installing the kit only lets them live 90k miles. Kind of a pay to play thing. We all know that the MOST reliable truck is completely stock but choose to modify anyway. Not an invitation to debate or argue just a thought.
 

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Settled on going with the -2.0 for now on the front struts after attempting to go with a -2.5 drop. Tried the +2.5 first knowing that -3.0 was not possible without a redesigned upper control arm. I could not achieve an adequate camber or toe setting with the -2.5 drop, so regrouped and went with the -2.0 which pushes the camber adjustments to the limits. There is little adjustment left on the tie rods for toe adjustment, but there are ways to cheat if you find that you are unable to dial the toe dial that in. The assembly was pretty straight forward. If you have experience with changing out struts and springs, you will have no issues. Do not panic if there is a bit of play left between the spring and upper seat. This small amount will disappear once the the front is laden. I will eventually make the transition to a -3.0 when the upper control arm becomes available as I'd prefer a bit more drop.

On to the rear. I chose to go with a -5.0 drop. By going this route, it provides a generous amount of drop once the truck is laden with a result of an actual -5.5 inches of rear drop at the axle. The overall installation was relatively easy. Just a lot of on your back time if you do not have access to a lift and truly, having done axle flips with and without a lift, I feel much more comfortable doing this with multiple jack stands and floor jacks.
One of the most important things to remember, is you will need to keep the front of the axle assembly supported. I have threaded jack stands that are infinitely adjustable, so this was not a problem for me. I used three to support and to move the axle assembly up and down as needed.
When it was time to set the axle assembly onto the saddles, you will most likely need to use a floor jack as this procedure will require moving the axle forward unless you have kept the assembly centered in the wheel openings which is difficult to do
Every piece fit well which made the job much easier than some of lowering jobs I have done where the parts were not of the same quality as the Belltech parts are. The supplied hardware is top grade as well. The one thing that you need to know, is that U-bolts and shackle hardware is SAE, not metric. No big deal. Just keep that in mind.
Now the question that seems to be a hot topic of discussion. Will the tires be centered exactly in the wheel openings, most likely not, but let me tell you what I found on my pre-installation measurements that I made. The wheelbase on the passenger side was 8mm shorter than the driver's side. Neither side was centered as you would hope that they would be from the factory. Are all Rangers like that, I have no way of knowing. My guess is that there will be variances on some of our trucks. Did I freak out, NO and nor should you unless you have a major discrepancy in dimensions between each side.
After all was said and done, I found that I was able to get both sides wheelbase within 2mm of each other. There is an 8mm gap difference between the front of the tire and the wheel opening moulding on the driver's side with the front being closer than the rear. That is 2mm better than the factory gap of 10mm. The passenger side is now the same as the driver's side with an 8mm difference between the front gap and the rear. This is something that I personally will not worry about. The pivot angle moved 1° which is quite acceptable.
Overall, this is a good quality kit. Some people will have better results than others. That is the nature of these types of modifications. If I was using this as a the track vehicle, which I am not, then I would be making a few changes like moving the centering holes in the saddle and lower spring plate. For me, this is not a big deal. Maintaining correct geometry is the number one concern which this rear kit achieved.
For the cost and quality of components, this is a good kit and a good deal. Just be prepared to put in some work on the rear flip kit. I had to go solo with mine and I can tell you that it would be best to have an assistant to help with some of the procedures.
In the end, I achieved what I wanted. A truck that is more driver and accessibly friendly for a 5'6" guy. I can now reach over the bedside behind the cab and touch the bed floor and easily pop into
the back of the bed. I call that a success!
Driving wise, the truck is more firm than it was which I personally prefer, the rear end does not dance nearly as much on hard bumps etc and the steering feels more precise. Body roll has decreased which is always a good thing.
Simply put, I LOVE IT! Next, a rear sway bar to reel in a bit more rear positivity.

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STUNNING! ABSOLUTELY PERFECT! This is EXACTLY the way Ford should have offered them. SIGN ME UP!
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I agree with Kevin, Belltechs statements in regards to 4wd trucks are likely CYA, lawyer stuff. I would do a bit of my own investigating before completely ruling out the Belltech kit. Look at your front halfshafts, if we can safely increase ride height - changing the angle on the CV joints - why can't we safely decrease ride height? The shafts should straighten out if you lower, which leads me to believe that there is less of a chance for problem.
Also consider, if your wear parts on the front driveline would have lasted say 100k miles then maybe installing the kit only lets them live 90k miles. Kind of a pay to play thing. We all know that the MOST reliable truck is completely stock but choose to modify anyway. Not an invitation to debate or argue just a thought.
That's pretty much my thought as well. Deflection is deflection regardless if it is up down, left or right provided that there are no extra obstacles and I totally agree with the "pay to play ting"
That's just how it is. I'll trade that 10,000 miles for what I want vs what might be available to the masses
 

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STUNNING! ABSOLUTELY PERFECT! This is EXACTLY the way Ford should have offered them. SIGN ME UP!
Thanks Kevin.
Thank you and I agree that this type of vehicle should be available.
 

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STUNNING! ABSOLUTELY PERFECT! This is EXACTLY the way Ford should have offered them. SIGN ME UP!
Thanks Kevin.
You are right Frank! There should be a distinct difference in the stance between 2wd and 4wd. You can spot the difference in every other Ford truck at a glance. I guess it was cost saving to build one suspension setup.
 

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The vibration thing is most likely speculative and my guess is the statement about a possible issue is a "cover my butt" statement. Just saying. You'll never know until someone gives it a shot
I agree with Kevin, Belltechs statements in regards to 4wd trucks are likely CYA, lawyer stuff. I would do a bit of my own investigating before completely ruling out the Belltech kit. Look at your front halfshafts, if we can safely increase ride height - changing the angle on the CV joints - why can't we safely decrease ride height? The shafts should straighten out if you lower, which leads me to believe that there is less of a chance for problem.
Also consider, if your wear parts on the front driveline would have lasted say 100k miles then maybe installing the kit only lets them live 90k miles. Kind of a pay to play thing. We all know that the MOST reliable truck is completely stock but choose to modify anyway. Not an invitation to debate or argue just a thought.
That's pretty much my thought as well. Deflection is deflection regardless if it is up down, left or right provided that there are no extra obstacles and I totally agree with the "pay to play ting"
That's just how it is. I'll trade that 10,000 miles for what I want vs what might be available to the masses
All of these statements make sense which has me rethinking lowering my 4x4. I'm planning on a trip to Louisiana in the near future to see my son and DIL, and may do this after this trip. And if there is something that can't be fixed with shims or the such, I can always revert back to stock.
 

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@Kevin Franklin I'm sure others are wondering the same thing, but once you've driven it for a while, do you think you'll see an increase in MPG's, since it should be more aerodynamic.... ?‍♂ ?
 

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STUNNING! ABSOLUTELY PERFECT! This is EXACTLY the way Ford should have offered them. SIGN ME UP!
Thanks Kevin.
The truck does look pretty nice, but not sure I understand this statement. The truck lowering community has to be the absolutely smallest niche in the entire market. lol
 

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@Kevin Franklin I'm sure others are wondering the same thing, but once you've driven it for a while, do you think you'll see an increase in MPG's, since it should be more aerodynamic.... ?‍♂ ?
I was wondering the same thing. I will have to see what shakes out
 

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The truck does look pretty nice, but not sure I understand this statement. The truck lowering community has to be the absolutely smallest niche in the entire market. lol
Exactly! Too my eyes it looks awesome, too others it may not, that's the point! If we all looked like mini Tonka trucks with big tires and a lift the world wouldn't be near as interesting.
And the community for lowering is as diverse as the community for Overlanding.
It's nice to see you back over here. You must have a secret fetish for sport trucks or you wouldn't be following this thread. :wink:
 

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Exactly! Too my eyes it looks awesome, too others it may not, that's the point! If we all looked like mini Tonka trucks with big tires and a lift the world wouldn't be near as interesting.
And the community for lowering is as diverse as the community for Overlanding.
It's nice to see you back over here. You must have a secret fetish for sport trucks or you wouldn't be following this thread. :wink:
Honestly I want to see his truck with 20" RTR wheels installed.

Someone here photochop it!

I've always had a small part of me that likes a well done lowered truck. I've seen some single cab Saleens that were pretty gnarly.
 

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Honestly I want to see his truck with 20" RTR wheels installed.

Someone here photochop it!

I've always had a small part of me that likes a well done lowered truck. I've seen some single cab Saleens that were pretty gnarly.
Heeeeeeyyyy, You see! Lightnings are cool, SRT 10 are cool, Hoonitruck is cool! Trucks are great for a fun, fast, RWD street ride that can still haul home a load of lumber. Welcome to the community! Haha
I certainly don't like every lowered truck just like you don't like every lifted truck. I have a style, you have a style.
I am a bit torn on wheels for my truck. I like Centerline Rev 7 and American Racing Revert. Both are back ordered from what I can gather. I have seen some very nice RTR wheels as well. I do like some of the more Off-road style wheels but fake beadlocks aren't my thing. My preference is clean and simple - like Kevin's wheels - with the outside edge of the wheel/tire even with the outside of the truck.
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