Think I Threw a Rod....

[Project Midnight]

They sent me a line by line?? What do ya’ll think? Take the dealer that will screw you over?? Or move it?? Pay for another tear down?? Cost, or Pride??

They sent me a line by line?? What do ya’ll think? Take the dealer that will screw you over?? Or move it?? Pay for another tear down?? Cost, or Pride??

They sent me a line by line?? What do ya’ll think? Take the dealer that will screw you over?? Or move it?? Pay for another tear down?? Cost, or Pride??

If I move it to another dealership, I have a feeling, I’ll have to pay for another tear down, but if they install my Ford Performance exhaust, where Mak Haik said they won’t... they’re wanting to charge me for everything to return my truck back to stock, and get it back under warranty!! This shit sucks lmao

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[AzScorpion]

They sent me a line by line?? What do ya’ll think? Take the dealer that will screw you over?? Or move it?? Pay for another tear down?? Cost, or Pride??

You PAID for a warranty from 5star so why are you going to pay more? Where are they on all this? I would be all over 5star as his should've been resolved by now. No sense in throwing more money at it for another take down. Have you even seen any pictures??

 

[HBird]

We're at 53 pages for a 2 month old thread? This is VW Vortex content right here

 

[D Fresh]

They sent me a line by line?? What do ya’ll think? Take the dealer that will screw you over?? Or move it?? Pay for another tear down?? Cost, or Pride??

Looks like there's about $1750 worth of core charges there. Which puts the total right at the threshold of your 5 Star warranty coverage.

If I were you I'd proceed as such.

1. They owe you a better explanation than "all the mods." You should be pressing them for this info. Pictures, access to parts for your own inspections, reports from Ford engineering. You're paying for a teardown and inspection. You're owed more than "all the mods."

2. If 5 Star is covering it and the dealership total is under your threshold then keep it at that dealership.

3. If 5 Star is not going to cover it find a performance shop familiar with EcoBoosts and have them install a crate motor or factory replacement. You'll pay half the price, but no warranty.

You need two pieces of information. Sadly it's pretty much the same information you needed when you finally got her limped home.

Without knowing

1. What happened?

and

2. Who is paying for it?

you'll never be able to decide how to proceed.

Fucking Christ dude, it's two months later and you don't know anything more than you did the day it happened. Get your shit together.

 

[Project Midnight]

Looks like there's about $1750 worth of core charges there. Which puts the total right at the threshold of your 5 Star warranty coverage.

If I were you I'd proceed as such.

1. They owe you a better explanation than "all the mods." You should be pressing them for this info. Pictures, access to parts for your own inspections, reports from Ford engineering. You're paying for a teardown and inspection. You're owed more than "all the mods."

2. If 5 Star is covering it and the dealership total is under your threshold then keep it at that dealership.

3. If 5 Star is not going to cover it find a performance shop familiar with EcoBoosts and have them install a crate motor or factory replacement. You'll pay half the price, but no warranty.

You need two pieces of information. Sadly it's pretty much the same information you needed when you finally got her limped home.

Without knowing

1. What happened?

and

2. Who is paying for it?

you'll never be able to decide how to proceed.

Fucking Christ dude, it's two months later and you don't know anything more than you did the day it happened. Get your shit together.

D Fresh, calm down, 5 Star is is helping me... Ford pretty much dumped me, understood, i planned on playing to play from the the get go, I have just never had it turn out this way... I have one dealer that won’t install an actual “FORD PERFORMANCE Exhaust, but they’ll charge every fucking penny to return my engine totally fucking stock, to reinstate my Ford Warranty for $14,000 vs maybe a $6000.00 custom build, screw the warranty, if I choose to keep it, for another 5 years etc.. I have to look at all my options... Do you want a nicely modded Ranger, under warranty? Or do you want something modified, with a warranty through 5 Star??

 

[HenryMac]

Looks like there's about $1750 worth of core charges there. Which puts the total right at the threshold of your 5 Star warranty coverage.

If I were you I'd proceed as such.

1. They owe you a better explanation than "all the mods." You should be pressing them for this info. Pictures, access to parts for your own inspections, reports from Ford engineering. You're paying for a teardown and inspection. You're owed more than "all the mods."

2. If 5 Star is covering it and the dealership total is under your threshold then keep it at that dealership.

3. If 5 Star is not going to cover it find a performance shop familiar with EcoBoosts and have them install a crate motor or factory replacement. You'll pay half the price, but no warranty.

You need two pieces of information. Sadly it's pretty much the same information you needed when you finally got her limped home.

Without knowing

1. What happened?

and

2. Who is paying for it?

you'll never be able to decide how to proceed.

Fucking Christ dude, it's two months later and you don't know anything more than you did the day it happened. Get your shit together.

Ford doesn't owe Project Midnight anything. He modified the truck. He paid Ford to tear down the motor and they said the modifications were the issue. it's a business. What do you expect, a Hollywood CSI 2 hour report?

Now since he got a warranty from 5 Star, they owe him, unless he did something to void that warranty too.

You guys saying Ford did something wrong in all of this seem to be knee deep in the entitlement culture mindset that runs rampant in todays society.

The warranty is all there in black and white and you sign off on it when you make the purchase.

Like I said previously when you play with the devil sometimes you get the golden fiddle, sometimes the devil get's your soul. The devil doesn't hand out trophies for loosing.

If you don't like that, don't step into the devil's arena.

Project Midnight seems to be handling all this with a level head and taking responsibility for his modifications. Well played.

 

[TBR17]

Think I threw my attention span.....

 

[JAKE2.3]

I'd do whatever is going to save you the most money. If 5 star is helping you out, great! If it comes out of your pocket, I'd have a different independent shop that you trust do the work. I'd say screw the warranty at that point. Save some cash and put it away in case it blows again. Assuming you plan on tuning and modifying this new engine again, obviously that Ford engine warranty isn't going to do much for your build.

 

[Strokerduster]

What I would like to see is the response from Ford, "In writing, with the EXACT reason the claim is denied". THAT is the only thing that counts.

 

[Blue Streak]

D Fresh, calm down, 5 Star is is helping me... Ford pretty much dumped me, understood, i planned on playing to play from the the get go, I have just never had it turn out this way... I have one dealer that won’t install an actual “FORD PERFORMANCE Exhaust, but they’ll charge every fucking penny to return my engine totally fucking stock, to reinstate my Ford Warranty for $14,000 vs maybe a $6000.00 custom build, screw the warranty, if I choose to keep it, for another 5 years etc.. I have to look at all my options... Do you want a nicely modded Ranger, under warranty? Or do you want something modified, with a warranty through 5 Star??

One thing of many that I do not understand you state that if you take it to another dealer you will have to pay for another teardown, is it not already tore down? Pay for reinspection yes to determine the cause. Also you state that you are & willing to pay to play. Since you have why would you even consider having it rebuilt for a greater cost with a factory warranty when you don't appear to want a bone stock engine? Just thinking out loud not banging on you. ?

 

[txquailguy]

I wonder how many 2.3L Ranger motors have died or had a major malfunction while running any of the available tuners? We only know about a very few, but I wonder if there are many? Turbo's go out for who knows how many reasons.....most not because of a tune. Connecting rods get thrown for any number of reasons....most not because of a tune. My logic with those statements is not many tune their trucks when you survey the mass of Rangers sold. So having the numbers on engine problems while running these tunes would be helpful with trying to see what the risk might be. I'm sure no tune purveyor would give up that data for fear of losing sales.
But maybe they would......
Hmmmm....another question for Anthony.

 

[RedlandRanger]

Ford doesn't owe Project Midnight anything. He modified the truck. He paid Ford to tear down the motor and they said the modifications were the issue. it's a business. What do you expect, a Hollywood CSI 2 hour report?

Now since he got a warranty from 5 Star, they owe him, unless he did something to void that warranty too.

You guys saying Ford did something wrong in all of this seem to be knee deep in the entitlement culture mindset that runs rampant in todays society.

The warranty is all there in black and white and you sign off on it when you make the purchase.

Like I said previously when you play with the devil sometimes you get the golden fiddle, sometimes the devil get's your soul. The devil doesn't hand out trophies for loosing.

If you don't like that, don't step into the devil's arena.

Project Midnight seems to be handling all this with a level head and taking responsibility for his modifications. Well played.

From my perspective Ford (or the dealer, most likely) HAS dropped the ball. Asking for payment to tear down an engine and then not giving details of said teardown is wrong. Just saying "all the mods caused the failure" isn't adequate. Nowhere have I seen (and correct me if I'm wrong) anything stating what actually caused the engine failure. To me, that is the root issue here.

If I paid 2 grand (or whatever was paid) for a teardown, I'd certainly be expecting more than an "all the mods" response. That seems a reasonable expectation to me.

This smells of a dealer that just doesn't want to deal with the issue, hence the inflated cost on the repair. Along the lines of "well, if he wants to pay us 14 grand, I guess we will do it, otherwise it isn't worth our time".

 

[VAMike]

From my perspective Ford (or the dealer, most likely) HAS dropped the ball. Asking for payment to tear down an engine and then not giving details of said teardown is wrong. Just saying "all the mods caused the failure" isn't adequate. Nowhere have I seen (and correct me if I'm wrong) anything stating what actually caused the engine failure. To me, that is the root issue here.

If I paid 2 grand (or whatever was paid) for a teardown, I'd certainly be expecting more than an "all the mods" response. That seems a reasonable expectation to me.

Also the OP; no way would I authorize that kind of charge without knowing what I was getting. I.e., a document stating that I would receive a technical report, pictures, etc. It's a lot harder to argue that you didn't get what you paid for if you have no documentation about what you bought.

 

[t4thfavor]

Read post 738 I posted Fords high performance 2.3 crate motor as that seems to be what the OP is into so regardless of which motor he goes with quoted labor of 3058.00 plus motor comes out too 9k.

That one doesn't have the casting to mount the belt driven fan, so it's not the correct one. It's correct for someone who might want to go electric fan and put it in a Focus or eco mustang or something, but not for the ranger.

 

[jsphlynch]

They sent me a line by line?? What do ya’ll think? Take the dealer that will screw you over?? Or move it?? Pay for another tear down?? Cost, or Pride??

$1200 for "misc"? I'm going to have to to start adding that to all my bills.

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