Fuel in oil

[N. J. Jim]

Ford Research - developing ranger bed based in-line gasoline to oil converter/cooler for oil sump on all 2021 rangers and above. Requires 20ft bed option...

I'm gonna see if they can install one on my truck MAYBE it would straighten it out!!

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[alexislima101]

Hey all!
So I have a 2019 ranger. I've been having some issues with the truck but not drastic enough to get it checked. I've read some other posts having concerns with fuel in their engine oil. My truck has been running kind of rough lately and checked the oil. Instant gasoline smell. Brought it in for an Oil change today and nothing was done. Rechecked the dipstick tonight and it smells more like a lawnmower than it did before the oil change. Also the same day, yesterday, my ford pass messenger indicated 5 faults that never appeared on the dash. Part of me is thinking there might be a software issue with the main control module communicating but also might be a fuel injector issue. Any thoughts?

 

[Msfitoy]

lol...there's at least 62 pages on this subject...have you searched?

 

[alexislima101]

Searched for a good hour last night. Problem is dealership's around me don't really listen or look into the problem you bring up lol.

 

[Msfitoy]

Searched for a good hour last night. Problem is dealership's around me don't really listen or look into the problem you bring up lol.

https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/threads/fuel-in-oil.4803/page-63

Long read ?

 

[alexislima101]

https://www.ranger5g.com/forum/threads/fuel-in-oil.4803/page-63

Long read ?

Hahahaha I was thinking that as I was typing it actually.

 

[SomeJoDude]

My dealership performed a Ford recommended procedure in an attempt to fix my fuel in oil issue. Something about a PVC Valve check apparently failed to correct the issue. The dealership mechanic said such before attempting the repair. When I picked up my truck my dealership rep stated that they again reached out to Ford for a recommended fix for the problem. They also stated they had another new ranger in the shop with the same issue and even checked one they had on their lot with only 25 miles on it that also measured a high level on the dipstick. So my dealership has at least 3 Rangers that have this issue.
The poll on this site clearly does not fully represent the magnitude of this problem. The issue likely has a lot to do with how the truck is driven. My usual drive is only 8 miles to and from work each day. Taking a road trip for Thanksgiving and going to take a oil sample before and after the trip to see what the fuel percentage is.

 

[CO2Ranger]

My dealership performed a Ford recommended procedure in an attempt to fix my fuel in oil issue. Something about a PVC Valve check apparently failed to correct the issue. The dealership mechanic said such before attempting the repair. When I picked up my truck my dealership rep stated that they again reached out to Ford for a recommended fix for the problem. They also stated they had another new ranger in the shop with the same issue and even checked one they had on their lot with only 25 miles on it that also measured a high level on the dipstick. So my dealership has at least 3 Rangers that have this issue.
The poll on this site clearly does not fully represent the magnitude of this problem. The issue likely has a lot to do with how the truck is driven. My usual drive is only 8 miles to and from work each day. Taking a road trip for Thanksgiving and going to take a oil sample before and after the trip to see what the fuel percentage is.

I think your point on the issue being understated is well put. Think of how many drive their vehicle and have no clue to check their oil or any other fluid. Until the dealer or their dashboard says they need service they just put gas in the truck and go.

The fact that so many on here have an issue (only because they thought to check) probably means the issue is much more widespread than we're lead to believe.

 

[jinja]

I am thinking about getting a Ranger. I read through this entire thread and it concerned me. Let this be a message to Ford, I think I'll hold off unless Ford issues a fix and makes buyers whole again... and there's a few others who posted here that feel the same.

On the technical side, there's a few things I don't understand. I am not an engine guy myself, but I like troubleshooting problems. Maybe these ideas can help push the investigation along:

Theory 1) Truck turning on randomly by itself in garages (and fuel pump noise) / FordPass server check-ins: maybe someone with the oil fuel issue can volunteer to always disconnect their battery while parked at home for a while and do oil tests, see if it improves.

Theory 2) Oil Separator theory: an oil separator was supposedly added around 2018. Not sure if that could have an effect. Something about fumes.

Theory 3) Bigger cooler theory: one of the main differences described between Mustang and Ranger 2.3L ecoboost is a bigger cooler for the oil. Maybe the oil is never getting hot enough to burn off the fuel in it, someone said. To test this theory, maybe there is an engine heater/oil heater you can buy and install and run overnight every night, so when you start up the vehicle, it's already warmed. This is just to test the theory out, and if it works, Ford can work on a fix.

Regardless, very sorry to hear the pain you are feeling and I hope it gets resolved soon

 

[Blue Streak]

Not something I'm proud of but, I do believe no other privately owned USA Ranger has as many miles...I'll be the lab rat for the longevity run...wish me luck...

I am gong to keep an eye on you Sid as I plan on making mine a keeper. Probably would still be driving my 92 F250 that I sold in 2013 when we moved from Omaha to Dallas. Just didn't need the beast anymore. Good Luck

 

[N. J. Jim]

Can't figure this out went from the full mark to top hole in 342 miles and their telling me this is only 1% dilution what the hell is the rest of the rise in level . That's about 14 more ounces more in level rise!

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[N. J. Jim]

 

[Msfitoy]

I am gong to keep an eye on you Sid as I plan on making mine a keeper. Probably would still be driving my 92 F250 that I sold in 2013 when we moved from Omaha to Dallas. Just didn't need the beast anymore. Good Luck

Same here...no way to recoup what I've invested anyway...In 2003, I bought a brand new MINI Cooper S, join a forum and began modding the hell out of it...I still have it today even though most everyone who was on the party boat have long since sold or destroyed their MINI...no plan on selling her...lol...

 

[P. A. Schilke]

Same here...no way to recoup what I've invested anyway...In 2003, I bought a brand new MINI Cooper S, join a forum and began modding the hell out of it...I still have it today even though most everyone who was on the party boat have long since sold or destroyed their MINI...no plan on selling her...lol...

Hi Sid,

My intro to a Mini was a 1071 Mini running in SCCA Road Racing. We converted it to 1275, but with a 3 main bearing crank...what a problem...Also, nothing was accessible with a wrench on the whole flippin' vehicle. Poor car overheated all the time. Driver was for sh*t. Glad to be way beyond this but my love for the original Mini is still there...just like the three wheel Morgan... Love/hate of British Engineering... Joe Lucas was the Prince of Darkness for example.

Best,
Phil Schilke
Ranger Vehicle Engineering
Ford Motor Co. Retired

 

[Tracy Bowman]

I have had no issues at all with my Ranger. I have had 4 oil changes. I have 23,000+ miles on it. I was curious whether or not I could smell gas in the oil. Checked it & the level was fine, but smelled like gas to me. Then I checked the oil in my Accent & it smelled exactly the same (noticed the level was a little high since the last oil change on it). This is not something I normally check, so I asked my husband to check behind me to see what he thought. He said no gas smell in either one (was mad about the techs overfilling the Accent). Anyway, I am relieved. I hope everyone having this issue finds a resolution and Ford does right by them.

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