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paper bags are awesome. so many uses. free paper. i saw a an old cabin that had hundreds of paper bags as sort of an insulation layer or wall paper.
plastic bags are great for blowing around town, killing animal life and semi leak resistant for dirty huggies. ?
You forgot to mention how awesome they look tangled high up in tree branches in the winter. :rolleyes:
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one thing about paper bags was if something you were getting leaked like milk or poorly packed meats you found out quickly and could make the store replace it. with plastic you get it home and its been opened or leaking and your stuck with it.
 

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The paper grocery bag has certainly come full circle. Back in the day, we used them to line the kitchen garbage can - had to be careful what we put in there! As the wire racks and thin plastic bags disappear, the paper bags are now back. I haven’t started lining the kitchen garbage can yet but I am doing this…

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We do the same. Especially since they don't want the one use plastic bags in the recyclables.
 

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As is often the case, ideas put into action don't always have the intended outcome.
I'll use grocery bags as an example. Many years ago we had to save trees and banned paper bags for groceries. Disposable plastic bags were used which are now discovered to be a nuisance, littering the planet and not biodegradable. So we went to multi use plastic bags. Now they are discovering they use much more plastic than disposable bags and are piling up in people's closets and basements because you always end up getting more when you discover you have more groceries than bags or get groceries delivered in them. Oh, and paper bags are now a choice again since the big scare because germs.
We end up with more laws and mandates to fix the problems caused by previous laws.:facepalm:
It's all a cycle, round and round we go....:crazy:
And paper bags were always reused; lining bird cages, wrapping fish for the freezer, covering books, oil changes, painting... Heck, I still save and reuse paper bags. Plastic bags, not so much, more of them than I'll ever use.
Yes we went through the same cycle here too, but with an additional step, at one stage they introduced "biodegradable" plastic bags, which I suspect simply may have had less plasticiser in them so they simply aged and crumbled like cheap plastic. Anyway they stopped making them because the plastic recyclers complained because they claimed that they weakened their products.
 

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activate an obscure law originally on the statutes for national emergencies, to force companies to keep back at least 15% of locally produced product for local use
This sound like a sound policy. We have something similar with our "strategic oil reserves" which is supposed to be used to get through an emergency if world supply is interrupted or if we're attached an need it to fight a war. Unfortunately it was tapped to artificially lower the gas price before an election an to my knowledge it hasn't been replace. It will most likely be replaced at a much higher price per barrel then it was when it was stored so that will be an expensive election move.

That Prius was 20 years old when I bought it. Gen 1, it didn't even have the aerodynamic body at that point. I drove it for 3 years before some chick in a Hyundai crashed into it. No Telsa will last 20 years except in a museum maybe.
I am more onboard with the plug in hybrids over Electric only. I've never owned either but if I had to choose it would be hybrid. The prius has been around a long time an seems like a solid powertrain. I don't know how much an advantage or improvement the plug in hybrid is over the early prius style.
 

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This sound like a sound policy. We have something similar with our "strategic oil reserves" which is supposed to be used to get through an emergency if world supply is interrupted or if we're attached an need it to fight a war. Unfortunately it was tapped to artificially lower the gas price before an election an to my knowledge it hasn't been replace. It will most likely be replaced at a much higher price per barrel then it was when it was stored so that will be an expensive election move.



I am more onboard with the plug in hybrids over Electric only. I've never owned either but if I had to choose it would be hybrid. The prius has been around a long time an seems like a solid powertrain. I don't know how much an advantage or improvement the plug in hybrid is over the early prius style.
Yeah gotta love politics and politicians heh, you can always count on them to do the very best job possible ....for themselves. This seems to be a constant no matter where you live, or what colour of government you live under.
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