Stock Turbo

[foxunderhill]

I know the model on the 2.3L Ecoboost Mustang non performance pack is the Honeywell GT22 twin scroll turbo. http://motrolix.com/2013/12/2-3l-ecoboost-in-2015-mustang-uses-twin-scroll-turbo-from-honeywell/

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[Wytchdctr]

I know the model on the 2.3L Ecoboost Mustang non performance pack is the Honeywell GT22 twin scroll turbo. http://motrolix.com/2013/12/2-3l-ecoboost-in-2015-mustang-uses-twin-scroll-turbo-from-honeywell/

Based on that and a quick google search; even the Focus RS also uses at GT22 with a 3mm oversized compressor wheel.

 

[importfighter01]

The Ranger turbos are Borg Warner units vs the Honeywell made ones. Ive confirmed on my truck (used a mirror to check the tags) and ebay has excellent pictures for ones off wrecked Rangers too. They even have the A/R casted onto one of the housings. Borg Warner has a website where you can enter the OEM’s rebranded part number to give you specs, but our part numbers don’t pull anything up. So all the specs on our little units are not posted anywhere, but there are bread crumbs out there.

 

[Wytchdctr]

The Ranger turbos are Borg Warner units vs the Honeywell made ones. Ive confirmed on my truck (used a mirror to check the tags) and ebay has excellent pictures for ones off wrecked Rangers too. They even have the A/R casted onto one of the housings. Borg Warner has a website where you can enter the OEM’s rebranded part number to give you specs, but our part numbers don’t pull anything up. So all the specs on our little units are not posted anywhere, but there are bread crumbs out there.

" Now I'm curious if it's the same across all 2.3 applications. ... .... .. might as well let that one go. "

Well that answers that question.

Thank you

Edit: Checked ebay pics. They even have Ford cast into the cold side.... intresting.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

" Now I'm curious if it's the same across all 2.3 applications. ... .... .. might as well let that one go. "

Well that answers that question.

Thank you

Edit: Checked ebay pics. They even have Ford cast into the cold side.... intresting.

It’s a “branded” turbo by Borg. My last 10 years of employment was at a large Borg turbo sales and service distributor . These are OEM specific turbos and even Borg distributors can’t access information about them. Usually after about 10 years Borg will release “aftermarket” replacements for them. We would try to ID internal components of the OEM specific turbos by disassembling them. But still could not purchase parts and pieces to repair them.

 

[Wytchdctr]

It’s a “branded” turbo by Borg. My last 10 years of employment was at a large Borg turbo sales and service distributor . These are OEM specific turbos and even Borg distributors can’t access information about them. Usually after about 10 years Borg will release “aftermarket” replacements for them. We would try to ID internal components of the OEM specific turbos by disassembling them. But still could not purchase parts and pieces to repair them.

Thank you! That explains my Google failure and is interesting in general.

 

[dtech]

Thank you! That explains my Google failure and is interesting in general.

FYI : https://turbochargersdirect.com/turbo-blog/how-to-identify-your-borgwarner-turbocharger/

Borg Warner is a big player and getting larger, now owns Delphi.

 

[Apples]

Oh, but there is a good reason to unbolt it from the manifold! And that is, to replace it with the larger Ford Performance one. Of course, you'll have to change the cool side piping, install a bigger intercooler and down pipe, and mess with the tune. Do it all correctly, and wowzer!! Kinda fun blowing off 90% of the vehicles on the road!

 

[Frenchy]

Oh, but there is a good reason to unbolt it from the manifold! And that is, to replace it with the larger Ford Performance one. Of course, you'll have to change the cool side piping, install a bigger intercooler and down pipe, and mess with the tune. Do it all correctly, and wowzer!! Kinda fun blowing off 90% of the vehicles on the road!

You do realize there is a bolt on replacement that only requires a tune right? All the company did was change the compressor and turbine wheels. In general it makes a difference but you have to get it tuned.

 

[Apples]

Oh yes. But... If you just replace the turbo (just the compressor side is different), and add the tune for it, you're just a bit better than the stock tune Ford sells. Do the rest, especially the piping and intercooler, and it is a whole new vehicle.

What little lag there is stock, is all but gone, and the boost doesn't level off after 4K RPM like the stock setup does. Peak boost can be as high as 24 PSI on 91 octane pump gas. Anything more, requires replacing the fuel pump, injectors, and a few smaller parts so you can run up to E85. I have no intention of doing so. As it is, there is a level of reliability. Guys who go all out with E85 based tunes, cannot expect the engine to stay glued together. Besides, it is hard enough on tires now!

 

[crazyrazor21]

From what I can deduce, it's a modified version of the Borg Warner S200SX, made specifically for the Explorer and Ranger. And yes, I've spent hours upon hours scrounging through the internet finding pictures of them. The 2019 Explorer 2.3 L turbo has the exact same numbers on the intake housing as the Ranger's turbo. That's all I can find though. I will say I beleive its a 50mm inducer diamaeter, but I may be wrong.

 

[Muffin1]

It’s a “branded” turbo by Borg. My last 10 years of employment was at a large Borg turbo sales and service distributor . These are OEM specific turbos and even Borg distributors can’t access information about them. Usually after about 10 years Borg will release “aftermarket” replacements for them. We would try to ID internal components of the OEM specific turbos by disassembling them. But still could not purchase parts and pieces to repair them.

And why would Ford require BW ( I'm assuming contractually)to keep the spec stuff 'secret'?
Is there something extra special about this part ?? Other than a handful of enthusiasts interest is the turbo a water cooler subject of interest.

 

[OFC Ranger]

And why would Ford require BW ( I'm assuming contractually)to keep the spec stuff 'secret'?
Is there something extra special about this part ?? Other than a handful of enthusiasts interest is the turbo a water cooler subject of interest.

Because Ford wants to force a funnel for repairs, replacements, parts directly back into their own channels. You can't have customers out there sourcing their own better priced parts or doing their own repairs with OEM. You need to pay the king more money for what you already paid for.

 

[Stevedbvik1]

And why would Ford require BW ( I'm assuming contractually)to keep the spec stuff 'secret'?
Is there something extra special about this part ?? Other than a handful of enthusiasts interest is the turbo a water cooler subject of interest.

BW has two divisions in their turbo segment. OeM and Aftermarket. The OEM division collaborates with the manufacturer to develop and design turbochargers to meet their requirements. They also brand the turbochargers ( Ford cast into cold housing). So technically it’s a Ford turbo manufactured by Borg Warner under contract. So yes it is something special in that regard. Most of the pieces are common with the rest of BW’s turbos. But but things like hot housing, cold housing, wastegate actuator, cold and hot wheel are unique to the 2.3L application. The contract gives Ford the right to control all aspects of the turbo for a set amount of years. When Ford approaches BW and says that they’re going purchase millions of turbos from them for all their product lines, BW will do whatever Ford says. This is not unique for BW as they do the same with BMW, VW, Audi, GM, CAT, Mercedes and on and on.
The aftermarket division concentrates on generic design turbos for the motor sports world. They also ( after OEM agreements have expired) will offer replacement turbos for OEM applications. Other turbo manufacturers like Holset, Garrett and IHI do exactly the same thing as BW.

 

[Muffin1]

Ah ok got it, so basically proprietary for profit by keeping other copy cats out of the market.

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