Should Farley be fired?

[rydfree]

I could see how that could be confusing. A Ford stealer told me my Lightning reservation should be converted to an order and filled in 3-4 years.

I reserved a Lightning and had my email confirmation back from Ford within the first 2 minutes of the reveal yet no invitation to order yet here either

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[Deleted member 15875]

On a seperate note, appearantly only certain Ford stealers are "performance shops" which limits my options for installing a Ford/Fox 2.0 kit. I was quoted $1,200, which includes a wheel alignment. That's way steeper than what I've seen posted here. I'd like to keep my warranty in tact, but I don't think I'll be using Ford now.

 

[Philvarah]

I worked in QC/QA most of my life and always had a terrible feeling about this one. And if I brought it up it was like I insulted someone's mother. "Anything in inventory is wasted money!!" "Go back and reread your ASQ books!", they'd say. Every company was chasing Lean Manufacturing like crazy. Well what happens when you're already lean and the food runs out?

Those companies (medical devices) were also getting 90% of their supply from China, I should check up on them.

I understand why companies don't want to tie up inventory dollars...pay taxes on unfinished sellable product.. but when the shit is coming... Do you not stock up on more fans or take the necessary steps to build your own fans soon.
Or was it too late by then because we sold out to foreign manufacturing...and had no leadership
I know a self made man who sits on $25M dollars each year ..
Each year he becomes richer as his raw materials inventory to make finished products never goes down in price. He doesn't play the stock market..
He plays tangible hard assets for the future.
He also did go to India ...anti China..
to have parts manufactured to assemble here in the U. S.... Why Ford chose to not have their own goods on the ground is because they have no cash flow...too much debt.
Only 1-2 Rangers arriving in Denver a month ... And they are 2022s... Ford's inability to run their company and have some basic inventory has adversely driven the market price of their vehicles to 1000s of dollars over MSRP....We...we consumer pays for it.
There are no 2023s on the ground and it's almost November....F'n great...
When will it change??? My sympathy for those less fortunate to have the means to buy a new Ford Ranger... let alone find one.
I am lucky to own one and thankful.

 

[Philvarah]

I understand why companies don't want to tie up inventory dollars...pay taxes on unfinished sellable product.. but when the shit is coming... Do you not stock up on more fans or take the necessary steps to build your own fans soon.
Or was it too late by then because we sold out to foreign manufacturing...and had no leadership
I know a self made man who sits on $25M dollars each year ..
Each year he becomes richer as his raw materials inventory to make finished products never goes down in price. He doesn't play the stock market..
He plays tangible hard assets for the future.
He also did go to India ...anti China..
to have parts manufactured to assemble here in the U. S.... Why Ford chose to not have their own goods on the ground is because they have no cash flow...too much debt.
Only 1-2 Rangers arriving in Denver a month ... And they are 2022s... Ford's inability to run their company and have some basic inventory has adversely driven the market price of their vehicles to 1000s of dollars over MSRP....We...we consumer pays for it.
There are no 2023s on the ground and it's almost November....F'n great...
When will it change??? My sympathy for those less fortunate to have the means to buy a new Ford Ranger... let alone find one.
I am lucky to own one and thankful.

Done with my rant... Just what is the future?

I met an older man a few years ago in my local grocery store... He looked puzzled so I asked him if everything was ok...
He then asked me a question...
How is it we went fifty years when bread, milk, and eggs were just about one dollar .. now they are all three dollars... How did this happen? I had no real answer.
Did computers allow us to do this for big business profits.... who knows..

 

[LostMy65]

Done with my rant... Just what is the future?

I met an older man a few years ago in my local grocery store... He looked puzzled so I asked him if everything was ok...
He then asked me a question...
How is it we went fifty years when bread, milk, and eggs were just about one dollar .. now they are all three dollars... How did this happen? I had no real answer.
Did computers allow us to do this for big business profits.... who knows..

 

[Gizmokid2005]

Did computers allow us to do this for big business profits.... who knows..

Computers and greed, yes. Look at the things that have happened in the last 50 years that he didn't have to deal with.

Credit scores, complete shift from US manufacturing to overseas independence, unfettered capitalism (look at the salary gaps between C-level and "regular" workers), the stock market and nearly ungoverned trading (especially commodities).

There's a ton of factors at play, but most boil back down to pure greed. If a company isn't directly serving the desires of the stockholders to make them more money, it's falling (regardless of the actual success of the company/market).

 

[Floyd]

Caused inflation and shortages worldwide huh? Must be some kind of diabolical super villain to pull that off.

Disingenuous gratuitous obsequious sychophancy!

 

[Deleted member 15875]

Since we are talking about Ford and Detroit, I figured Ted would be much more inline?

 

[Rhino]

If I understand it right, that's just what they did when they hired Jim Farley?
Lexus is a Toyota with lock washers , ain't it?

nah lexus is when the car goes over a certain value thats how it was determined years back from looking it up a long time ago but overall they are the same just more fancy or a completely different car like the LFA?

 

[Floyd]

nah lexus is when the car goes over a certain value thats how it was determined years back from looking it up a long time ago but overall they are the same just more fancy or a completely different car like the LFA?

Point is that it is still a Toyota!
The "lock washer" reference must be a bit archaic for you!

 

[Rhino]

Point is that it is still a Toyota! The "lock washer" reference must be a bit archaic for you!

most likely im only 27 lol

 

[Meangreen92lx]

Ford is hiding behind respected nameplates to mask inferior quality control and engineering. Hence the only car being the Mustang. People trust Ford on trucks. Cars are a tough sell. Except Mustang. People accept problems on a Mustang because it's a Mustang. They don't on a Focus or Fusion. Ford should concentrate on proper engineering and quality control. Not hiding those shortcomings behind once popular nameplates. And they know it. Current business strategy is sell trucks which they can survive off their past reputation even with shoddy build quality and engineering.

 

[Floyd]

Ford is hiding behind respected nameplates to mask inferior quality control and engineering. Hence the only car being the Mustang. People trust Ford on trucks. Cars are a tough sell. Except Mustang. People accept problems on a Mustang because it's a Mustang. They don't on a Focus or Fusion. Ford should concentrate on proper engineering and quality control. Not hiding those shortcomings behind once popular nameplates. And they know it. Current business strategy is sell trucks which they can survive off their past reputation even with shoddy build quality and engineering.

I haven't seen any evidence to support those claims, in fact every new Ford I have bought has proven to be excellent in both quality and engineering.
That is not to say that they don't make bad marketing decisions in terms of options.

 

[Philvarah]

Since we are talking about Ford and Detroit, I figured Ted would be much more inline?

So I got caught in a white out Blizzard going home to Denver from Durango... Knew it was going to be bad but I wanted home... Was slightly ahead of the worst I thought .. got behind two semi trucks... We went over LaVeta Pass on hwy 160 going east... A two lane highway... I was jamming to Ted... Stranglehold was playing on the deck... It became so hairy driving 25mph... Wind blowing... can't see... Driving on 6 inches snowpack... The semi tail lights that were guiding me disappearing in and out of sight... The edge of the road....cliff was somewhere.. got so intense... I rolled down my driver's side window and yelled as loud as I could... trying to see a red tail lite... So intense... I couldn't take it... Couldnt stop... Had to keep going... Too intense .. I had to turn Ted... Stranglehold music off.... I needed to concentrate on the silent nite and white out snow storm...
I hear that song today... And what a memory... Made it home and on the news was how the storm was headed north but went south... Where I was driving and dumped 3 feet in Waldenburg... Must have been 4 feet on the pass that nite. Oh... And I was in a Chevy S10 white 2 wheel drive pickup... Have had a 4x4 living here in Colo ever since.... Many F150s... But now my Ford Ranger and me are in for another chapter if adventure.

 

[Meangreen92lx]

Been a Ford/Lincoln technician for 28 years. These new vehicles are the terrible for early problems. Ranger is still a simple vehicle. Little to go wrong in comparison to other models. Ford quit cars because they lose money on them and can't compete with the imports. Only reason they can't compete is quality and reliability. Which ultimately kills resale value. Farley recognizes this and shifted to trucks. Not that the quality is any better. Just more accepted by buyers and better resale value. Have to play to your strengths when things are not going well.

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