Oil filter is stuck

[Grumpaw]

I used to do it with all my vehicles. Not anymore. Your engine isn't bone dry and the oil moves pretty fast at start up.
If your engine is going to let loose it isn't because you didn't put oil in the filter.

I do it every time with every vehicle or lawn equipment that uses a filter....old habit from many many years gone bye.....old habits are hard to break. You could show me a 300 page study on why it's not necessary.....and I would still do it.....

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[5thranger]

Admittedly, I didn't read all 5 pages. Not to be a smart ass, but are you sure, righty/tighty lefty/loosey?

A lifetime ago, I remember doing an oil change at the dealership I worked for back in the 80's, there was one I couldn't get off. I asked everyone for an opinion, and yes, we were an educated, well trained, experienced group. IIRC, I ended up using an air chisel, very gently, low and slow, on the thick gasket end of filter to get off. Gasket, dry as a bone. Don't remember the story on who did last filter change.

The guy who used an impact wrench

 

[TJC]

I do it every time with every vehicle or lawn equipment that uses a filter....old habit from many many years gone bye.....old habits are hard to break. You could show me a 300 page study on why it's not necessary.....and I would still do it.....

I learned a long time ago to fill the filter and let it fully soak before installing. I did the dry filter a few times and had loud knocking for a couple of seconds when starting the engine after the oil change. That was enough of a warning for me. The next oil change I filled the filter and the engine started quiet. Most all engine wear occurs on startup. I suspect the same is true... and probably worse with a dry filter.

It only takes a few seconds to fill the filter and set it aside while the oil is draining from the pan. Then top the filter off before removing the old filter. By the time you are ready to install the new filter it will not dip any oil.... and your engine will like you for it.

Of course we each own our vehicles and can do with them whatever we wish.

I want mine to last as long as possible.

 

[got3fords]

I learned a long time ago to fill the filter and let it fully soak before installing. I did the dry filter a few times and had loud knocking for a couple of seconds when starting the engine after the oil change. That was enough of a warning for me. The next oil change I filled the filter and the engine started quiet. Most all engine wear occurs on startup. I suspect the same is true... and probably worse with a dry filter.

It only takes a few seconds to fill the filter and set it aside while the oil is draining from the pan. Then top the filter off before removing the old filter. By the time you are ready to install the new filter it will not dip any oil.... and your engine will like you for it.

Of course we each own our vehicles and can do with them whatever we wish.

I want mine to last as long as possible.

Every time my wife starts her Edge there are a couple of seconds of rattle. I am not too concerned. I am sure there is still a residual coating of oil. That said, if I were still doing my own oil changes, I would put at least some oil in the filter. Wrenching on all kinds of motors in the past, I always tried to prime the filter where practical.

 

[Cmar]

My wife's Chrysler Pacifica has a filter like that. It's easy to change but the thing is not to overtighten it and crack the housing. The trick to being neat with it, and I don't know if the diesel Ranger is the same, is loosen the cap that holds the filter cartridge, pull it out of the housing slightly, and let it drain while you drain the oil. Then it doesn't drip much when you remove it.

Yes that's pretty much what I do because it mounts in a similar position to the one on your Ecoboost ie sideways behind the flap and angled down about 40 degrees, so it drains naturally when you loosen it. Yes when screwing it back on you need to remember it's the O ring at the end of the thread that makes the seal, not a flat seal that you can tighten further, when it stops - it's up!

 

[23HRPXL]

I removed the two drip trays. Good in theory but bad in reality.

 

[Msfitoy]

I removed the two drip trays. Good in theory but bad in reality.

What happened after you removed them?

 

[ctechbob]

What happened after you removed them?

Big F-ing mess is my guess.

 

[23HRPXL]

Big F-ing mess is my guess.

Oil drips on the crossmember. Minor issue considering I have clear access to the oil filter.

 

[21rangerCactus]

Oil drips on the crossmember. Minor issue considering I have clear access to the oil filter.

Why didn't you have clear access from behind the driver side wheel?

 

[Friday yet?]

Why didn't you have clear access from behind the driver side wheel?

Exactly. I find reaching over the tire to be pretty easy.

 

[21rangerCactus]

Exactly. I find reaching over the tire to be pretty easy.

Yeah I don't get it. Ford actually put a channel to catch the oil and not make a mess. I remove the flap, and seconds later I got my filter out. It's one of the easiest oil changes I've done.


Our 2021 honda pilot, the filter is directly above the frame. It gets oil every where if you don't put a bag around it before spinning it off.

 

[23HRPXL]

Why didn't you have clear access from behind the driver side wheel?

Required removal of a splash shield. And the angle is more favorable for a filter wrench from below, than from the side. Some oil spills on the crossmember, minor annoyance. Actually had cars that made a much bigger mess when removing the oil filter.

 

[21rangerCactus]

Required removal of a splash shield. And the angle is more favorable for a filter wrench from below, than from the side. Some oil spills on the crossmember, minor annoyance. Actually had cars that made a much bigger mess when removing the oil filter.

Splash shield is pretty simple to remove and my filter wrench fits right in. No oil spilling on the frame, drains right into my container and no minor annoyances.

You do what makes you happy but I'll still say many of you make a big deal out of it.

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