New California gas tax went into affect today

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Guess we are in the same boat almost, I wasn't aware Canadian gas was so expensive. Has it always been relatively expensive compared to the US or recent laws pushed it up a bit?
It's always been that way. We use to snowmobile up there back in the early 2000's and it was really high back then compared to here in the states. Gotta pay for that "free" health care somehow. :rolleyes:
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Give them some slack Jack it's a disease and there's no cure! SOB's are coming here in droves and then they get on nextdoor.com and first brag about how cheap it is to buy a house then in the next breath say how they're going to flip AZ blue. :facepalm: You wonder how some can be so stupid!:headbang:
Now this probably is not verbatim, but someone once said something to me to the effect of:

"If you run into an asshole on occasion, they probably are an asshole. If you run into assholes everywhere you go, chances are you are the asshole."

It may take a generation or two, but the millennials moving out of CA will grow old and become the new boomers and wake up 80 years old one day in whatever state they moved to and wonder how they got into the same situation.

Current boomers don't get a pass either, they started the snow-ball of a shitshow and just passed the torch.

I was born in 1981 so I'm neither a boomer or a millenial. Neener Neener! I get the label Gen X and no one ever blames Gen X for anything haha
 

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Now this probably is not verbatim, but someone once said something to me to the effect of:

"If you run into an asshole on occasion, they probably are an asshole. If you run into assholes everywhere you go, chances are you are the asshole."

It may take a generation or two, but the millennials moving out of CA will grow old and become the new boomers and wake up 80 years old one day in whatever state they moved to and wonder how they got into the same situation.

Current boomers don't get a pass either, they started the snow-ball of a shitshow and just passed the torch.

I was born in 1981 so I'm neither a boomer or a millenial. Neener Neener! I get the label Gen X and no one ever blames Gen X for anything haha
Hey wait a minute :stop:....I'm a Boomer!:bandit:




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Yea, I'm not speaking in absolutes, there are always those who break the mold.

But shit did not get where it was from individual acts, it took an entire society to move us through the years through each layer of the poop cake.
 

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Gas tax is mildly interesting, but you need to look at the total tax environment for each locale. New Hampshire has no sales tax or individual income tax. We make up for it in other ways, mainly property taxes (including motor vehicles) and corporate income tax. So, if you buy a more fuel-efficient car/truck/suv, you can reduce your fuel tax bill. Very few towns have a lower property tax rate than ours, but our annual property tax bill is much higher than the combined fuel bill for all three of our cars.
I like Texas, but I’m getting home sick. The north east will always be home and I’ll always be a Yankee. Half of my family comes from Maine dating back to the 1600’s.

Does New Hampshire have cheap acreage if you aren’t afraid of driving an hour to work?

My ex and I were in New Hampshire a couple of years ago camping in the mountains and I loved it. Vermont is beautiful too. But politically all three states scare me and they could vote rights away pretty fast.
 


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I was going to come into this thread bashing the people who voted for this since yes it's freaking 5$ a gallon, but I wanted to see where our tax money was going.. I did some digging, found the stats. As much as I hate the gas prices, maybe there is some good benefit to it besides just the emissions this time.
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Only problem is it took twenty years to get this bill done and in the meantime they had gutted the funding for all the "things" that would have normally been annual maintenance items, making them deferred maintenance which let it all crumble...and an "easy" way to say "look how good we are doing". Probably a better compare would have been a 20 year graph line ...:crackup: but almost nobody here wants to see/hear real info.
 

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I hate it here. I can't even call it Commiefornia without getting scolded by my neighbors. The EV crowd votes for these higher taxes because it doesn't hurt them. Wait till they start taxing them too for batteries, overage charges for draining the grid, special parking passes, and whatever else they can come up with to steal your money.

I'm in the Taxation is theft crowd. A real rebel for these here parts. They like my kind round' here. Looks like I'll be riding my motorbike more than the Ranger.
 

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It's always been that way. We use to snowmobile up there back in the early 2000's and it was really high back then compared to here in the states. Gotta pay for that "free" health care somehow. :rolleyes:
Yup, always been that way, were like between the US & Europe for the price of gas.
BTW, gas tax does not pay for health care, at least, I don't think so. If I'm not
mistaken health care get $ from our income tax, which is high.
I have no issues with 'free' health care, it's not, I pay for it it every second week, it saved my life.
The way I see it, it's all the same anywhere you go. You pay more here, but less
there. Again, if I'm not mistaken, some states have very low income tax but the
municipal tax is through the roof.
 

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I hate it here. I can't even call it Commiefornia without getting scolded by my neighbors. The EV crowd votes for these higher taxes because it doesn't hurt them. Wait till they start taxing them too for batteries, overage charges for draining the grid, special parking passes, and whatever else they can come up with to steal your money.

I'm in the Taxation is theft crowd. A real rebel for these here parts. They like my kind round' here. Looks like I'll be riding my motorbike more than the Ranger.
I can promise you two things in life...
 

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I like Texas, but I’m getting home sick. The north east will always be home and I’ll always be a Yankee. Half of my family comes from Maine dating back to the 1600’s.

Does New Hampshire have cheap acreage if you aren’t afraid of driving an hour to work?

My ex and I were in New Hampshire a couple of years ago camping in the mountains and I loved it. Vermont is beautiful too. But politically all three states scare me and they could vote rights away pretty fast.
The only thing I miss about the N'east is the food, specifically Italian and seafood. We still haven't found one decent place that serves either out here. Other than that I have zero desire to ever return and still haven't gone back since moving 6 years ago. Plus I cant do super cold areas now after living out here.

I laughed when one of my customers said "you want good Italian go to Olive Garden". :puke: You're talking to someone who's grandparents are Italian and owned their own restaurant back in the day.
 

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Yup, always been that way, were like between the US & Europe for the price of gas.
BTW, gas tax does not pay for health care, at least, I don't think so. If I'm not
mistaken health care get $ from our income tax, which is high.
I have no issues with 'free' health care, it's not, I pay for it it every second week, it saved my life.
The way I see it, it's all the same anywhere you go. You pay more here, but less
there. Again, if I'm not mistaken, some states have very low income tax but the
municipal tax is through the roof.
I'm sure you're right. I was just making a joke because everyone seems to always think that healthcare is "free". Nothing is ever free.
 

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I'm sure you're right. I was just making a joke because everyone seems to always think that healthcare is "free". Nothing is ever free.
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& yes, food is good in the NE. All those big name restaurants(chains) are garbage.
 

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Only problem is it took twenty years to get this bill done and in the meantime they had gutted the funding for all the "things" that would have normally been annual maintenance items, making them deferred maintenance which let it all crumble...and an "easy" way to say "look how good we are doing". Probably a better compare would have been a 20 year graph line ...:crackup: but almost nobody here wants to see/hear real info.
Agreed it took too long for it and we resultingly had terribly crumbled under maintained roads. But they were previously poorly maintained before hand due to the large state we have and the number of people using the roads. Is there an instant solution to our 100+ billion dollar infrastructure problem caused by years of neglect and population usage? No. But is SB1 positively affecting road maintenance, yes. But I am plenty happy to see that directly after SB1 the roads started being maintained at a higher rate, still needs ton of progress and $$$.
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