JimJa
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Interesting thread. Thought I'd throw my 2 cent in - not that anyone gives a rat's behind.
- Listening to Autoline Podcast last week. Interesting topic about chips. 91% of every thing with a chip has a connection to Taiwan. Part of the reason for the shortage is, as Phil stated, auto mfgrs want "tried and true" chips. IOW "old" chips. Chips are measured in distance between circuits on the chip, closer together equals a faster chip and everyone wants faster. Current chips are in the neighborhood of 5 nanometers and the auto mfgrs want the older ships (think first iPhone) of 90 nanometers. Problem is, no one wants to make to those older chips.
- Given China's intention with Taiwan (Xi has said in his lifetime), if chip production is cut off it will throw the world into economic chaos. Even if China does take over Taiwan, it's in their interest to keep chip production going. So, we'll see.
- We can only hope (I'm NOT optimistic) is those past and present clowns running the country learn a lesson and begin to bring production back to the U.S. (there has not been an Aspirin made int he U.S. since 1992) and concern for U.S. made meds should be of great concern. Think about China getting pissed and shutting off med production to the U.S.
- If things were made in the U.S. those ships off L.A. wouldn't be there.
- Of interest, when it is said there are 13,00 containers on a ship it doesn't mean there are that many. International rules as such that containers are measured as 20' units, not 40'.
Given the price of gas in CA, I ordered a new '22 Escape Hybrid for my wife. Two weeks later I had a VIN and production date the week of 15 November. For planning, called my dealer to find the typical delay between build and delivery. He said "Stand by. Ford typically moves dates back." Following day received an email indicating production moved to the week of 22 November (job #1 was 2 Nov). I'm not optimistic but makes me wonder how Ford and other mfgrs are allocating their chips between those vehicles sitting on lots and new builds. Selling those '20 and '21s that have sitting will be a HUGE tax write off for the mfgrs. My dealer is huge and he tells me he is only getting 10% of vehicles he normally gets.
- Listening to Autoline Podcast last week. Interesting topic about chips. 91% of every thing with a chip has a connection to Taiwan. Part of the reason for the shortage is, as Phil stated, auto mfgrs want "tried and true" chips. IOW "old" chips. Chips are measured in distance between circuits on the chip, closer together equals a faster chip and everyone wants faster. Current chips are in the neighborhood of 5 nanometers and the auto mfgrs want the older ships (think first iPhone) of 90 nanometers. Problem is, no one wants to make to those older chips.
- Given China's intention with Taiwan (Xi has said in his lifetime), if chip production is cut off it will throw the world into economic chaos. Even if China does take over Taiwan, it's in their interest to keep chip production going. So, we'll see.
- We can only hope (I'm NOT optimistic) is those past and present clowns running the country learn a lesson and begin to bring production back to the U.S. (there has not been an Aspirin made int he U.S. since 1992) and concern for U.S. made meds should be of great concern. Think about China getting pissed and shutting off med production to the U.S.
- If things were made in the U.S. those ships off L.A. wouldn't be there.
- Of interest, when it is said there are 13,00 containers on a ship it doesn't mean there are that many. International rules as such that containers are measured as 20' units, not 40'.
Given the price of gas in CA, I ordered a new '22 Escape Hybrid for my wife. Two weeks later I had a VIN and production date the week of 15 November. For planning, called my dealer to find the typical delay between build and delivery. He said "Stand by. Ford typically moves dates back." Following day received an email indicating production moved to the week of 22 November (job #1 was 2 Nov). I'm not optimistic but makes me wonder how Ford and other mfgrs are allocating their chips between those vehicles sitting on lots and new builds. Selling those '20 and '21s that have sitting will be a HUGE tax write off for the mfgrs. My dealer is huge and he tells me he is only getting 10% of vehicles he normally gets.
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