Fuel in oil

[rmr76]

Did you see my oil analysis results? Changing the oil from a 5w30 to a 0w30 in just 1800 miles of driving, while adding 1.5 quarts of gas to the crankcase, is completely unacceptable no matter what the cause. The Focus RS and the Mustang do not have this issue, which leads me to doubt it is excessive blowby. It is almost certainly leaking through the hpfp.

Could be. I frequented F150 forums when I had my 2014 F150 Tremor before getting my Ranger. Some of the earlier build (2011-2012) F150s with the 3.5 EcoBoost had this exact problem - a leaking HPFP dumping fuel into the oil. I never had that issue in mine fortunately. When I changed the oil on my Ranger the first time at about 2000 miles, I didn't notice a particularly strong fuel smell. I should check the level now and see where it's at now that I'm at almost 2000 miles on this oil (Pennzoil Ultra Platinum 5w30).

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[hawk43]

Did you see my oil analysis results? Changing the oil from a 5w30 to a 0w30 in just 1800 miles of driving, while adding 1.5 quarts of gas to the crankcase, is completely unacceptable no matter what the cause. The Focus RS and the Mustang do not have this issue, which leads me to doubt it is excessive blowby. It is almost certainly leaking through the hpfp.

Yes I saw it and no offense but I was hoping your condition is max bad...if that makes sense..worse case scenario..I mean based on the oil life monitor readings I see so far this thing will expect 10k oil changes lol...

 

[Wade]

Yes I saw it and no offense but I was hoping your condition is max bad...if that makes sense..worse case scenario..I mean based on the oil life monitor readings I see so far this thing will expect 10k oil changes lol...

Yeah when I change my oil the oil life monitor is always 80% or higher, pretty laughable when you look at the oil analysis results... Lol

 

[Doc]

Mine has a slight gas smell, I ordered the Blackstone kit.
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[Da Ranger]

I mailed my test kit back yesterday and my case is still open with Ford Customer Care so I can send them the results.

 

[Da Ranger]

Let me know where you forwarded your sample results, will forward mine also.
Mine as well keep them going to the same department?
Pete

I am actually sending them to the case worker assigned to my case. I posted the phone number in an earlier post. This way you will have an open case that they will work to get problems resolved.

My service bill even shows I was over 1/2 quart when I took it in.

 

[quirkybar8]

Just procedure--All the years I worked for Ford-# 1 item we had to do, is to VERIFY, the complaint.. It's why I am testing/monitoring my own truck, before I talk to Ford. Currently, I think mine is, OK

Wish I could say the same, but at 1,900 miles the oil level in my truck is almost halfway between the max hole and the twist. OTOH it doesn't smell like raw fuel, and it was at least at the max mark at around 800 miles. I didn't wait the full 15 minutes or check it cold back then like I am now.

After talking to a service adviser at the dealership, I may take your approach for now. He told me to bring it in one day next week so they can mark the stick and check it again in 500 miles. I'd rather not find out the hard way that it's getting worse. My other thought is to go buy a vacuum pump so that they can see the current level, then if they aren't planning to draw it back down to normal, I will prior to their marking.

This does lead me to wonder what kind of headroom is built into the dipstick. I can't imagine that the max point is really that, but since there's no official information, one can only speculate. Like maybe that's why the twist is where it is.

 

[paquete305]

I'm at ~7,000 miles and just noticed a strong fuel smell on the outside of my vehicle after a cold start.

I'm posting here because I checked my dipstick, and unfortunately it smells like there is fuel in my oil and it is slightly over the fill line indicator. Also, I've never had a dipstick drip oil like it was water when pulling it out.

The factory fill was changed at ~4600 miles with Motorcraft full synthetic oil by the dealer. I do not remember smelling fuel outside of my vehicle before, but it could be because I was rarely using remote start.

Also, I am bone stock with no catch can or other modifications.

I'll report back once I visit the dealer on Monday. I'm hoping this is nothing.

Update on my original post. The dealer said that they didn't see anything abnormal and I had them change my oil while I was in for the tail light recall. They did note my concern in their "system" and said that if enough others report the same fuel in oil situation that Ford corporate may get involved.

After my oil was changed, I smelled it and it does not wreak of fuel anymore and is at the correct level. I've ordered a kit from Blackstone and I'll be changing my oil myself at about 2k miles from now to get some actual readings that are not coming from my nose .

 

[acsnowrider]

Wish I could say the same, but at 1,900 miles the oil level in my truck is almost halfway between the max hole and the twist. OTOH it doesn't smell like raw fuel, and it was at least at the max mark at around 800 miles. I didn't wait the full 15 minutes or check it cold back then like I am now.

After talking to a service adviser at the dealership, I may take your approach for now. He told me to bring it in one day next week so they can mark the stick and check it again in 500 miles. I'd rather not find out the hard way that it's getting worse. My other thought is to go buy a vacuum pump so that they can see the current level, then if they aren't planning to draw it back down to normal, I will prior to their marking.

This does lead me to wonder what kind of headroom is built into the dipstick. I can't imagine that the max point is really that, but since there's no official information, one can only speculate. Like maybe that's why the twist is where it is.

Don't take any chances!--follow up, have Ford change the oil early (first change is important!) set the levels/seal up what they need to be comfortable that the test is accurate, and you'll have your answer-well worth the cost of one oil change--If the level goes up, they will do something/get you a fix

 

[2ford]

Wish I could say the same, but at 1,900 miles the oil level in my truck is almost halfway between the max hole and the twist. OTOH it doesn't smell like raw fuel, and it was at least at the max mark at around 800 miles. I didn't wait the full 15 minutes or check it cold back then like I am now.

After talking to a service adviser at the dealership, I may take your approach for now. He told me to bring it in one day next week so they can mark the stick and check it again in 500 miles. I'd rather not find out the hard way that it's getting worse. My other thought is to go buy a vacuum pump so that they can see the current level, then if they aren't planning to draw it back down to normal, I will prior to their marking.

This does lead me to wonder what kind of headroom is built into the dipstick. I can't imagine that the max point is really that, but since there's no official information, one can only speculate. Like maybe that's why the twist is where it is.

According to the owners manual max oil level is the hole above the cross hatch. What concerns me as much as having gas in the crankcase is the reaction from the dealerships and techs. You should point out what the owners manual says about an overfilled crankcase.

 

[jsphlynch]

I'm still under 700 miles on mine (Sept build), but after following this thread for a while I figured I should check mine. Oil level was ever-so-slightly above the top hole, although accuracy is a bit suspect since it was only ~30 min after driving and it was in my driveway, which is a bit sloped. I could convince myself I smelled a bit of fuel, but definitely not reeking of it like others have experienced.

I figure I've now got a good baseline to compare it to in the future. I was planning on doing the first oil change early anyway, so I'll probably do that around 2000 miles and send it off for analysis just in case. I can be pretty cheap, but $28 is a small price to pay for either (depending on the results) (1) an early warning of a problem or (2) peace of mind.

 

[AtillaTheHung]

My oil level is fine, but the oil does smell a bit like 2 stroke oil. Consistency is good. I am at 404 miles. Engine was built in October. Runs like a top, but am concerned about the fuel smell in the oil. I smelled my 2010 4.0 Ranger oil and it smells like... well... oil. I have let my truck idle a few times since I don't drive it much. I drove it to work today and she runs beautifully. She's only ran 93 since I have owned her. No spirited driving except for one mess up with the sport mode, and a few pulls through the tunnel with my exhaust.

 

[Stangman570]

My oil level is fine, but the oil does smell a bit like 2 stroke oil. Consistency is good. I am at 404 miles. Engine was built in October. Runs like a top, but am concerned about the fuel smell in the oil. I smelled my 2010 4.0 Ranger oil and it smells like... well... oil. I have let my truck idle a few times since I don't drive it much. I drove it to work today and she runs beautifully. She's only ran 93 since I have owned her. No spirited driving except for one mess up with the sport mode, and a few pulls through the tunnel with my exhaust.

Wouldn't get caught up with the smell of the oil. You just stated the point between the years of your rangers and the smell of the oil. People are just losing their marbles of the fuel smell. Boosted vs non boosted. Most importantly becomes the overall level of the oil. If it increases, then for sure there is a problem. Increase in oil level will only come from a few places. Leaky injector/injectors or from bad seal on the high pressure fuel pump. Just watching this thread I'm going to invest in the oil sample companies. They are making a killing from guys sniffing the oil and immediately sending in samples. Heck I'm behind the curve and need to invest ASAP. I'll make tons of money over the next few months. No offense Attilla, just making a point to everyone FREAKING OUT. High oil level that keeps increasing. Take it to the dealer ASAP. OMG bunch of dudes walking around with oil on the upper lip, bawaaa

 

[AtillaTheHung]

Wouldn't get caught up with the smell of the oil. You just stated the point between the years of your rangers and the smell of the oil. People are just losing their marbles of the fuel smell. Boosted vs non boosted. Most importantly becomes the overall level of the oil. If it increases, then for sure there is a problem. Increase in oil level will only come from a few places. Leaky injector/injectors or from bad seal on the high pressure fuel pump. Just watching this thread I'm going to invest in the oil sample companies. They are making a killing from guys sniffing the oil and immediately sending in samples. Heck I'm behind the curve and need to invest ASAP. I'll make tons of money over the next few months. No offense Attilla, just making a point to everyone FREAKING OUT. High oil level that keeps increasing. Take it to the dealer ASAP. OMG bunch of dudes walking around with oil on the upper lip, bawaaa

So are you implying that boosted vehicles will have a ‘fuel’ smell in the oil? Lol.

But I will say the level has stayed the same. I drove the heck out of her over the weekend.

 

[quirkybar8]

Don't take any chances!--follow up, have Ford change the oil early (first change is important!) set the levels/seal up what they need to be comfortable that the test is accurate, and you'll have your answer-well worth the cost of one oil change--If the level goes up, they will do something/get you a fix

At 1,900 miles and with a nice amber hue I preferred waiting for the first change, but that's not how it went yesterday. I now have a fresh fill with 5w20, if I'm to believe the invoice. They comped it, but somehow I don't feel any better. I've gone from a bit of concern but a willingness to watch to obsessing over the wrong oil. I should have pushed for us to first check the oil in their 3 lane prep area before it getting taken back to the tech. I have no idea if that person actually looked at it first, or if they just thought they were appeasing me.

According to the owners manual max oil level is the hole above the cross hatch. What concerns me as much as having gas in the crankcase is the reaction from the dealerships and techs. You should point out what the owners manual says about an overfilled crankcase.

Agreed on both points and I'm pretty sure I did explain clearly what I was experiencing and how I understand things. I'm certain I made a comment about it probably still being a bad thing to have an overfilled sump, to which that service adviser agreed.

My oil level is fine

I'm curious, was it in the hash marks or at the max fill hole? Did you wait at least 15 minutes before checking?

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