Dorman transmission pan

[Frenchy]

Your mis-reading/mis-understanding the $$$$.
Aluminum pan from PPE runs around $300 or so depending on which you get.
The Mishimoto Pan runs around $260 or so depending on where you get it.
Dorman pan runs around $75 or so.
Dorman pan--$75 plus Fitzstick--$159.......total for both is less than the Mishimoto pan by itself, much less than the PPE pan by itself.

But the true advantage of the PPE and Mishimoto Pans are the added cooling fins. I know the transmission on mt Ranger got plenty hot a few times while OffRoad and the added cooling fins would have helped drastically by keeping the transmission cool during the high load.

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[Grumpaw]

Got it thanks...

Any pan you get with a drain plug is worth it as it will eliminate any mess if you do your own trans fluid/filter maintaince. I, and some others, regularly tow heavy trailers/campers, and in my case, I plan on fluid/filter changes every 25,000 miles or so. The PPE and Mishimoto Deep Pans also add around 2 xtra quarts of fluid, which for heavy towing is an added plus.
Mike's "Fitzstick" makes it very easy to keep check on the fluid, and also adds the ability to fill from the top of the engine compartment.
To me, that makes both a very worthwhile investment.

 

[The Last Ranger]

The Dorman also comes with a filter and gasket, but I prefer aluminum, but for the budget consious guys this is an option , price on amazon $72.72 right now

 

[RedlandRanger]

But the true advantage of the PPE and Mishimoto Pans are the added cooling fins. I know the transmission on mt Ranger got plenty hot a few times while OffRoad and the added cooling fins would have helped drastically by keeping the transmission cool during the high load.

What is "plenty hot"? I ask because I've had a hard time getting the trans up to the temp the manual says is required to check the fluid. The only way I was able to do it was to lock out all the gears, run it at like 4 grand RPM for a while - then the trans got into the correct temp zone. Seems like it does a pretty good job of temperature control.

 

[Frenchy]

What is "plenty hot"? I ask because I've had a hard time getting the trans up to the temp the manual says is required to check the fluid. The only way I was able to do it was to lock out all the gears, run it at like 4 grand RPM for a while - then the trans got into the correct temp zone. Seems like it does a pretty good job of temperature control.

Just regular driving here in Colorado I usually saw around 200°F. OffRoad I have seen it hover around 220-230° and have gotten it to 250° twice. If I had the pan I'm sure the transmission would not have gotten to 250° at all(or at least not as easily). Normal temps while OffRoad would probably be closer to 200° as well

 

[Big Blue]

The Dorman also comes with a filter and gasket, but I prefer aluminum, but for the budget consious guys this is an option , price on amazon $72.72 right now

For that price it is the pan only.

 

[RedlandRanger]

Just regular driving here in Colorado I usually saw around 200°F. OffRoad I have seen it hover around 220-230° and have gotten it to 250° twice. If I had the pan I'm sure the transmission would not have gotten to 250° at all(or at least not as easily). Normal temps while OffRoad would probably be closer to 200° as well

That's crazy! I got mine up to a little over 200, but as soon as I stopped winding the piss out of it, it came back down very quickly. It runs under 200, usually under 190 and it takes quite a while to get there. Around town trips it will barely get to 180.

 

[Grumpaw]

What is "plenty hot"? I ask because I've had a hard time getting the trans up to the temp the manual says is required to check the fluid. The only way I was able to do it was to lock out all the gears, run it at like 4 grand RPM for a while - then the trans got into the correct temp zone. Seems like it does a pretty good job of temperature control.

I have noticed my temps take awhile to get up to the 190ish area, especially during the colder days. I've been paying attention the last few days, while the outside temps hovered around 40-50 degrees.
Example, yesterday did around 60 miles via interstate and secondary roads, 45 up to 70 mph....fluid temps never got over 180 degrees.
Obviously when outside temps go to summer it will heat up much faster, but all in all the cooling set up on the Ranger seems to be pretty good.
My trans temps have "kissed" 220 a few times while towing out 7000 lb camper, running up mountains and grades, but once crested, temps come down quickly.

 

[Frenchy]

That's crazy! I got mine up to a little over 200, but as soon as I stopped winding the piss out of it, it came back down very quickly. It runs under 200, usually under 190 and it takes quite a while to get there. Around town trips it will barely get to 180.

I can't speak for the terrain in Oregon, but I know that these temps were in the Colorado Rockies. During the first year of owning it I was living at 10,000 ft, work was at 9,000 FT and I had to cross 11,000 ft to get to and from. To say the least it got worked pretty well. The first time I got it hot at 250° was with 32 inch tires climbing a steep loose rocky grade in low range. It was Definitely something else

 

[RedlandRanger]

I can't speak for the terrain in Oregon, but I know that these temps were in the Colorado Rockies. During the first year of owning it I was living at 10,000 ft, work was at 9,000 FT and I had to cross 11,000 ft to get to and from. To say the least it got worked pretty well. The first time I got it hot at 250° was with 32 inch tires climbing a steep loose rocky grade in low range. It was Definitely something else

I regularly get to 4-5000', but not much higher usually. I'm guessing mine got a bit hotter a few times - I've been in some pretty deep snow and worked it pretty hard but I didn't have the monitor at that point so I don't know how hot it did get. But given what I have seen, it does seem to cool pretty well in most circumstances.

 

[Blue Streak]

Just regular driving here in Colorado I usually saw around 200°F. OffRoad I have seen it hover around 220-230° and have gotten it to 250° twice. If I had the pan I'm sure the transmission would not have gotten to 250° at all(or at least not as easily). Normal temps while OffRoad would probably be closer to 200° as well

So if it was to keep it at around 200 under heavy use would it let it never reach operating temp under normal conditions. ?

 

[Frenchy]

So if it was to keep it at around 200 under heavy use would it let it never reach operating temp under normal conditions. ?

Not necessarily, remember that the Factory Cooler is really just a Warmer for the transmission. Yes it has coolant running through it, but it has a valve that is controlled by the PCM stopping coolant flow. That in turn will control the general temp of the transmission if too hot or too cold. Depending on what the parameters are set by Ford will determine hot it will work and therefore should not be too cold just by adding the finned pan

 

[Grumpaw]

With my Scan Gauge 3 I have observed that the coolant temps will go up very quickly to operating temps....outside temps have no real bearing on time/distance. Usually within around 10 minutes or so the coolant will hit 190 or so.
Trans fluid takes much longer, but when the operating temps hit the normal range, both coolant and trans fluid temps will be within 5-10 degrees of each other, and normal solo driving will be around 190-200 degrees....maybe a bit warmer on hot days.
When towing under load, like a grade/hill, the trans fluid temps will climb faster than the coolant, but once the crest has been reached the trans fluid will quickly drop back to the 190-195ish range.
Granted, this is with highway driving, and you who do alot of off-roading at low speed/high torque will probably notice higher temps...
I would definitely recommend some type of monitor to keep track of temps.

 

[Racket]

To think there could be someone who bought a B&M transmission dipstick for $$$ and then cheaped out on a Dorman plastic fantastic for $ as an 'upgrade.'

For $100 more (not including additional ULV) they could have gone Fitzstick+PPE/Mishimoto.

 

[RAYJAY]

To think there could be someone who bought a B&M transmission dipstick for $$$ and then cheaped out on a Dorman plastic fantastic for $ as an 'upgrade.'

For $100 more (not including additional ULV) they could have gone Fitzstick+PPE/Mishimoto.

where are you getting the ppe pan so cheap ? the ppe is 312.00 dorman is $ 52.79... fitz stick is 200 with shipping ..... either 512.00 or 252.79 little more than $100 ..

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