Disable fake engine noise

[dtech]

Hi. So can someone please explain the fake engine noise to me? Perhaps I don't notice it or perhaps I just don't have that in my 2020? I don't think I hear anything through my speakers. I do notice a slight sound when accelerating, which I assumed was the turbo.

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[Nick Barber]

Hello everyone. I have been following this post for a bit and decided to sign up today so i could chime in with some info. I have a 2019 ranger stx that I just recently had a sub and amp installed in. The fake engine noise is absolutely there. I thought i had heard it before the sub was installed but it was very subtle and never really paid much attention to it. Now that the sub is installed you can hear it clear as day because it gets played through the sub. I don't think this is restricted to the sync vs sync 3 or trim levels. My truck has the standard sync system in it. Now that the sub is installed I am desperately looking for a way to disable the sound because it is so overly exaggerated on the much large speaker. I will see if i can get a video of it tomorrow to show you guys.

I'd have to agree with this has an owner with a b&o sound system it's definitely noticeable when you put your foot down in my opinion. When my wife first heard it she was looking around because she thought she had heard a motorcycle ride right up beside us.

 

[TechnicallyReal]

I have a Hyundai Sante Fe 2.0T and the primary sound I am waiting to hear is when the engine throws a rod as hundreds of thousands have done. Driven 4 cylinder turbos since 1986 and completely agree that the Ranger sound is not natural for a 4 cylinder. But I kind of like it.

Before the Sorento I had a 2013 Santa Fe Sport Limited, and before that I had a 2011 KIA Optima. I'm a big fan of Korean vehicles (at least the ones made in the last 10-15 years).

All 3 of those (Optima, Santa Fe, and Sorento) have the same Theta II engine, although my Optima didn't have a turbo, and the Santa Fe Sport had a bigger turbo than the Sorento (resulting in 264hp and 269lbs torque). Neat thing about the Sorento's smaller turbo is that it spins up at a lower RPM giving you its power more quickly. The TFL guys on Youtube did a little drag race between the 2.0T Santa Fe Sport with and the 2.0T Sorento, and the Sorento won despite being longer and heavier. In my experience, though, the SFS definitely has more power on the highway.

ANYWAY what I actually wanted to say is not to worry so much about your engine. Hyundai has a recall program now where they can inspect it and tell if your specific block is one of the ones not cleaned properly at the factory, and they have an update to help mitigate the issue somehow (or at least to flash the engine light before you throw a rod). From what I know owning 3 vehicles with affected engines, is that it's mostly the early built ones (2011-2012) and only the ones built in Georgia. Here in Canada many of those engines actually came from Korea, as was the case with my Optima. Either way they are extending the small block warranty to 200,000km and 10 years or something iirc. I haven't thought about that issue in a long time and know nobody who has run into it.

 

[dtech]

actually in the USA Hyundai has agreed to a class action settlement where owners who get the SW flash which puts the engine in limp mode prior to blowing up or seizing are entitled to a unlimited mileage lifetime warranty, at least 250k of these engines have failed and they will continue to do so, this applies to Theta II engines from 2011 to 2020. It's a poorly designed engine, with multiple issues including cylinder head deformation, oil pump failure and crank bearing seizures likely due to block weakness. hyundai has spent well over $ billion on replacing the failed engines, it's probably over 10% which have or will fail . I have way more confidence in the Ford 2.3T than the Hyundai mill. I also get an annual mileage based fuel compensation as Hyundai lied about the mpgs in 2013 for numerous models and was forced to compensate owners. Not a company I care to do business with again.

 

[dtech]

and the cleaning process story was a lie as well, Hyundai originally said only some engines from 2011 to 2013 were impacted, then 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 began to have failures. I know these are popular cars in Canada though.

 

[TechnicallyReal]

this applies to Theta II engines from 2011 to 2020. It's a poorly designed engine, with multiple issues including cylinder head deformation, oil pump failure and crank bearing seizures likely due to block weakness.

Heh come to think o fit, before my Optima I had a 2009 Hyundai Sonata which also had the Theta II engine, but before they had direct injection or turbos. Funny that I've had the same damn engine in my past FOUR vehicles. But these issues only seemed to really take off after 2011 from what I recall which is odd to me since it's older than that. I also seem to recall the engine being a joint design between them, Chrysler, and another company. The term "global engine" comes to mind, but I don't care enough to look it up. Knowing that, I don't really hold it those issues entirely against them (obviously, as I kept buying their products). Perhaps if I had run into those issues myself or knew anyone who did then I would have a different attitude about things. If what you're saying is true about the engines still having issues in 2014-present, then that just sucks, and they should have gone back to the drawing board.

and the cleaning process story was a lie as well, Hyundai originally said only some engines from 2011 to 2013 were impacted, then 2014, 2015, 2016, 2017 began to have failures. I know these are popular cars in Canada though.

Another thing that I seem to recall is that they were only finding that engines from the Georgia plant were susceptible to the bearing issues. Those from Korea were still being offered extended warranty etc, but didn't seem to be failing. Kinda lent credence to the cleaning excuse.

Anyway sorry for derailing the thread. I'm hoping to be the new owner of a Ranger Lariat very soon.

 

[dtech]

yeah it's off topic but the global engine design was a joint venture with Mitsu , Chrysler and Hyundai dating back to the late 90s, Hyundai eventually bought the rights, and it does seem once gdi was added the woes began. hyundai made moves to mitigate the issues - stronger rods, some attempts to strengthen the block but none solved the problems completely, Hyundai did a CPU SW patch which uses the knock sensor to detect impending crank bearing failure and put the engine into limp mode, this is still being installed on 2020 models with Theta, Hyundai has introduced a newer 2.5 engine which is stronger with improved cooling and so on.
The Ranger despite being heavier than my Sante Fe gives better fuel efficiency, faster acceleration, quieter cabin, and much better off road capabilities and towing. The Hyundai has actually been mostly my wife's car and she has been happy with it.
I do realize in Canada Hyundai is a big seller and prices more aggressively than competitors, hope you can find a good deal on a Ranger.

 

[geophb]

For all the nonbelievers out there. ?
Made two sound clips. Taped microphone to driver door speaker and did a WOT pull from a stop.
One is from factory, one is with fuse pulled (which disables all audio).
You make the call.

Edit: Just want to add, I did not do any funny business with the audio. This was purely for science.
Edit 2: I might make a couple more where I disable the factory digital sound processer and/or convert radio to variable lineouts. As others have said they don't hear the fake noise when they do that.
Edit 3: I just noticed today that I actually left the ANC disabled (changed A to 8) as mentioned in first post. I thought I changed back to stock, but I guess not. So anyway, this is with ANC disabled.

 

[RedlandRanger]

Very interesting - it does sound "enhanced". I read a story a while back saying this was the automotive industries "dirty little secret" and it is in more vehicles than most people know. It isn't talked about much, but is very prevalent in cars sold in the US. It isn't just Ford that is doing it.

 

[P. A. Schilke]

Hi Folks,

I do not know if you are aware, but the Ranger has active Noise Cancellation as did my MKX and does my current Nautilus. Wonder how many NVH complaints are due to Forscan mods.... Maybe only Lariat?

Best,
Phil Schilke
Ranger Vehicle Engineering
Ford Motor Co.

 

[IdahoRanger]

It's obvious the second clip was after installation of the tailgate damper...DUH

 

[Rp930]

Mine must not be working. My truck sounds like the second clip. it has never sounded like the first clip. Maybe Lariats don’t have it.

But I do have a tailgate dampener.

 

[geophb]

Mine must not be working. My truck sounds like the second clip. it has never sounded like the first clip. Maybe Lariats don’t have it.

You have B&O system? Another member with b&o system says noise is not there.

 

[DJRPM4131]

Mine must not be working. My truck sounds like the second clip. it has never sounded like the first clip. Maybe Lariats don’t have it.

But I do have a tailgate dampener.

My 2019 Ranger XLT Sport Package definitely sounds like the First clip when I mash the Throttle.
I kinda like the sound but, I'd like it better if it was real.
And, I have the Tailgate Dampener.? I do Have the B&O sound

 

[geophb]

My 2019 Ranger XLT Sport Package definitely sounds like the First clip when I mash the Throttle.
I kinda like the sound but, I'd like it better if it was real.
And, I have the Tailgate Dampener.? I do Have the B&O sound

You have an XLT with the B&O sound system????

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