Cut my third leg off today

[got3fords]

There was a case just recently here in Charlottesville. Charges were pending against a woman who killed a pedestrian, even though that person was allegedly (I hate that word) attacking the woman. They used the data in the car's computer to prove all her moves were defensive and charges were dropped. The attacker died when she collided with another vehicle with the attacker holding on to the car.

Sponsored

 

[Sojourner]

There was a parallel discussion on the Bronco6g forum the other day.

As with this thread, the other seems to be missing the real issue. I appreciate @seasprite bringing up this issue and find some of the critiques/comments also worthwhile.

Yes, I get it; we are being tracked by everything and everywhere so the critics are correct that Seasprite's efforts are - in the end - futile.

The real issue for me is how did we get to the point - not just that the government allowed it - where everyone (both the thieves (companies) and the marks (us)) are okay with it?

I'm old enough to remember that previously the correct response to the questions "where were you?" and "what were you doing?" was "none of your effing business." Now we get "why are you so reluctant to answer the questions?" and people just accept that it's okay for them to make what is essentially an accusation of illegality/impropriety.

We NEED to figure out a real life legal/peaceful version of "V for Vendetta" b/c this intrusion into our lives ain't gonna get better. Government ain't on our side, Big Tech certainly isn't. Sadly, most of the people sitting next to you or driving next to you aren't, as well. B/c most people would rather live in The Matrix than not.

Good on ya, Seasprite for trying. Glad I'm not alone regardless of how futile it might be to try.

 

[Buckbull]

I'm just disappointed this wasn't a lorena bobbitt inspired thread.

 

[Sojourner]

I'm just glad it wasn't!

 

[Jason B]

There was a parallel discussion on the Bronco6g forum the other day.

As with this thread, the other seems to be missing the real issue. I appreciate @seasprite bringing up this issue and find some of the critiques/comments also worthwhile.

Yes, I get it; we are being tracked by everything and everywhere so the critics are correct that Seasprite's efforts are - in the end - futile.

The real issue for me is how did we get to the point - not just that the government allowed it - where everyone (both the thieves (companies) and the marks (us)) are okay with it?

I'm old enough to remember that previously the correct response to the questions "where were you?" and "what were you doing?" was "none of your effing business." Now we get "why are you so reluctant to answer the questions?" and people just accept that it's okay for them to make what is essentially an accusation of illegality/impropriety.

We NEED to figure out a real life legal/peaceful version of "V for Vendetta" b/c this intrusion into our lives ain't gonna get better. Government ain't on our side, Big Tech certainly isn't. Sadly, most of the people sitting next to you or driving next to you aren't, as well. B/c most people would rather live in The Matrix than not.

Good on ya, Seasprite for trying. Glad I'm not alone regardless of how futile it might be to try.

Personally, I feel the conveniences that come with the app outweigh the downsides.
I like the ability to remote start, schedule starts, locate truck with a horn blow in a full lot, check fuel, and lock/unlock remotely. I even liked the fact that one morning when getting ready for work, I had a notification on my phone that I had one low pressure tire, long before I was ready to leave.
That's how we get to where we are. We give up a little privacy for conveniences.

 

[Kemo Sabe]

On fuse #9
I finally decided to get big brother out of my truck today and took the power from the telematics module.
Just curious how many here have done this?

Glad it works for you, WHATEVER THE HECK THAT IS!!?

 

[Msfitoy]

And since all the other autos around you will try to snitch you out if your speeding, maybe it is time for a cell phone j@mmer that blocks all signals say in a 100' radius. Owning a cell phone jammer is not illegal, but operating one is. I have no idea how you block their cameras from taking your picture, but I am sure that people smarter than me will find a creative way to defeat the tech with other tech. Consider the following history:

Cops use radar to catch speeders

People purchase radar detectors,

Cops purchase radar detector detectors

People purchase illegal radar detector detectors & jammers

Cops outlaw jammers and radar detectors (In Va) and catch you with their radar detector detectors that are illegal for you to own.

and around and around we go chasing technology

I have friends who routinely drive in Va, and have had police stop them searching their car for the detectors, and never find them. I have had other friends who had them and the cops instructed them to place them on the ground in front of the tires and then have them pull forward, destroying them. Va LEO can't confiscate your detector unless it is used as evidence, and then must be returned.

Is putting away my detector while driving through VA legal?

 

[TJC]

It must be inaccessible, as in the trunk to be legal. Locked glove box is no good.

 

[shovelhd]

It must be inaccessible, as in the trunk to be legal. Locked glove box is no good.

True. I got a huge ticket for that. It was the first thing the trooper did, open the glovebox.

 

[seasprite]

It has the ability to collect far more then that! It tracks your every move, and it is possible (it has the hardware already installed) to eavesdrop on any conversation in the truck. In short, whatever you can do with your smart phone the truck can do... without your knowledge.

If you signed up for FordPass you gave consent.

I do not trust any corporation to not use the technology, even if they tell me it is turned off. I want a physical ON / OFF switch on the offending hardware. That is the only way to insure that Ford (or any other supplier) will not be tempted to turn it on.

If they can, they will.

You can never turn off your smartphone, but you can pull the plug on your truck telematics system.

I like technology, but I want to control the tech, not have it control and snitch on me. It is not about doing anything wrong, it is about an expectation of privacy - to be left alone to live without 24/7 monitoring.

I know they collect a lot more, just what I could think off the top of my head. I also believe our cell phones are the most compromised device we own.

There was a parallel discussion on the Bronco6g forum the other day.

As with this thread, the other seems to be missing the real issue. I appreciate @seasprite bringing up this issue and find some of the critiques/comments also worthwhile.

Yes, I get it; we are being tracked by everything and everywhere so the critics are correct that Seasprite's efforts are - in the end - futile.

The real issue for me is how did we get to the point - not just that the government allowed it - where everyone (both the thieves (companies) and the marks (us)) are okay with it?

I'm old enough to remember that previously the correct response to the questions "where were you?" and "what were you doing?" was "none of your effing business." Now we get "why are you so reluctant to answer the questions?" and people just accept that it's okay for them to make what is essentially an accusation of illegality/impropriety.

We NEED to figure out a real life legal/peaceful version of "V for Vendetta" b/c this intrusion into our lives ain't gonna get better. Government ain't on our side, Big Tech certainly isn't. Sadly, most of the people sitting next to you or driving next to you aren't, as well. B/c most people would rather live in The Matrix than not.

Good on ya, Seasprite for trying. Glad I'm not alone regardless of how futile it might be to try.

I don't think its futile. If I leave my phone at home now I can have confidence that the recording of my life has been greatly reduced. I don't think we can totally eliminate it now days. Been seeing little black solar powered license plate readers popping up around here.

Personally, I feel the conveniences that come with the app outweigh the downsides.
I like the ability to remote start, schedule starts, locate truck with a horn blow in a full lot, check fuel, and lock/unlock remotely. I even liked the fact that one morning when getting ready for work, I had a notification on my phone that I had one low pressure tire, long before I was ready to leave.
That's how we get to where we are. We give up a little privacy for conveniences.

Is it still convenient when insurance goes up $200.00- $400.00 a year.

https://www.foxbusiness.com/technol...g-driver-sharing-data-car-insurance-companies

 

[DukeCanBuildit]

Ah, there’s nuthin’ like a spirited conversation to get the moderators’ antennae pinging like mad every time they see a new post. ? ?

 

[MountainGoat]

True. I got a huge ticket for that. It was the first thing the trooper did, open the glovebox.

He just reached in and opened it?? WTF

 

[shovelhd]

He had me exit the car first and stand behind it.

 

[NotBudule2]

Ah, there’s nuthin’ like a spirited conversation to get the moderators’ antennae pinging like mad every time they see a new post. ? ?

 

[seasprite]

Ah, there’s nuthin’ like a spirited conversation to get the moderators’ antennae pinging like mad every time they see a new post. ? ?

We're having a friendly discussion on a discussion board?

Sponsored