Best 20 minute upgrade? Sumo Springs

[Frenchy]

This is a great example as to why I do not recommend leveling kits at all. The leveling kit created a problem and you spent more money on fixing said problem.

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[MIBuckeye]

This is a great example as to why I do not recommend leveling kits at all. The leveling kit created a problem and you spent more money on fixing said problem.

Also a great example....of an opinion without an audience.

 

[Frenchy]

Also a great example....of an opinion without an audience.

You mean fact? The pictures you provided proved the reason for not going with a leveling kit....

 

[quangdog]

You mean fact? The pictures you provided proved the reason for not going with a leveling kit....

Leveling kit? What are you even talking about here? These springs are not a leveling kit at all... they allow for a much nicer ride when towing a heavier load with this truck.

Any modification to this truck of course has the possibility of going sideways and creating a problem. This is a risk I understand and accept. If you are not comfortable with the possibility that something may go wrong, then of course don't ever make any changes to your truck at all... and make sure you shell out for that extended warranty. Or, better yet... don't drive it. Them roads are full of risks...

 

[Frenchy]

Leveling kit? What are you even talking about here? These springs are not a leveling kit at all... they allow for a much nicer ride when towing a heavier load with this truck.

Any modification to this truck of course has the possibility of going sideways and creating a problem. This is a risk I understand and accept. If you are not comfortable with the possibility that something may go wrong, then of course don't ever make any changes to your truck at all... and make sure you shell out for that extended warranty. Or, better yet... don't drive it. Them roads are full of risks...

In the first post the OP stated how he installed a leveling kin on his truck(spacer kit at that). After that he was having problems with the rear squat and other driver flashing him. After that he spent more money on the sumo springs to "fix"(more like bandaid) the problem. Make sense?

 

[MIBuckeye]

In the first post the OP stated how he installed a leveling kin on his truck(spacer kit at that). After that he was having problems with the rear squat and other driver flashing him. After that he spent more money on the sumo springs to "fix"(more like bandaid) the problem. Make sense?

Oh man.....the OP (me) had his headlights level after the leveling kit....it was the squat the was being corrected...not the level. Squat was there before too. The initial deflection of the springs is due to the progressive nature of the springs where the initial deflection takes less to compress. The sumo springs provide a progressive compression too. They simply add to the initial required compression. Hope that helps ya understand Frenchy! And btw, they solved the "problem" of not having to have the headlights out of wack for either towing/not towing. Not what you would do? OK. So what?

 

[OFC Ranger]

So can someone in basic terms break down why someone would get sumo springs vs leaf springs?

I am reaching a critical weight threshold with my rig and am needing to do an upgrade in near future. Top of the list right now is the autospring leaf helper.

 

[Grumpaw]

So can someone in basic terms break down why someone would get sumo springs vs leaf springs?

I am reaching a critical weight threshold with my rig and am needing to do an upgrade in near future. Top of the list right now is the autospring leaf helper.

Jack, Sumo's aren't "springs" but replacement for the stock bump stops. OE bump stops are basically hollow rubber sleeves with that plastic type ring. Theres no "progression" per say...when your springs bottom out against them, it's basically a "jarring" severe hit.
The Sumps are made of a material that is made to compress...the more pressure the more it supports the pressure placed on it, but without any "bottoming out" that you get with the OE bump stops.
Check out your truck to see how much room is between the OE bump stop and the spring perch.....if very little room that means that any additional load, or bumps in the road are causing your OE bump stops to bottom out.
With the Sumo's, even if the spring perch is resting on the Sumo's, it's not a problem as they will progressively compress.
Think of the oe stops as plain foam rubber, and than compare that to memory foam.
I know your carrying a fairly heavy load, and you still might want to look at springs, but the Sumo's will also help.

 

[OFC Ranger]

Yea... avert your eyes...

 

[drvred]

When heating the bolt, are you heating the head?
Or trying to get the torch into the frame, to heat the loctite?

 

[quangdog]

When heating the bolt, are you heating the head?
Or trying to get the torch into the frame, to heat the loctite?

When I did it, I just heated the head for about 3-5 minutes. The heat conducted well up the shaft of the bolt, into the frame rail, and melted the loctite. I would not try to aim flame into the frame to try to hit the exposed shaft of the bolt. The head is enough.

Even after heating, go slowly and be careful: Break it free, then tighten it again. Loosen a little more, then tighten again. Loosen a little farther, then tighten ... gradually the loctite will ease up entirely and the bolt will start to spin freely.

Good luck!

 

[Racket]

For reasons I haven't had a chance to install mine, and left the box under a carport at one of our properties. Three months later I'm back and noticed the sides oriented to the sun has turned black. In a panic I messaged/emailed Adam asking if this would affect the integrity of the Sumos and he said no. He pointed out a lot of things can cause them to discolor, but I think I'd like them black all over.

 

[Dr. Zaius]

Huge shout out to @adamweisner at SuperSprings. I decided to pull the trigger on a set of these SumoSprings for an upcoming road trip to haul a project car several hundred miles with my son, and Adam absolutely went above and beyond in helping me make sure I'd have the springs in time for our trip. Fantastic customer service, and I can't wait for them to arrive so I can get them thrown onto the truck before we pull out of town.

I'll come back with an update on how they affect ride quality with a loaded trailer after our trip this weekend.

Did you make your trip?

If so, how did the Sumo springs hold up?

 

[Grumpaw]

I'll jump in and tell you they are worth every penny. We're on the road now heading up to Mackinaw and towing our 7000 lb trailer/700 lb tongue weight.
When we're hooked up the spring perch is actually contacting the Sumo's and when drivin there is no jarring when we hit a bump/road transfer/ bridge crack, ect.
The stock bump stop is hollow and compresses violently, but the Sumo's cushion the ride compressing as needed.
100% sold on them.

 

[BigRedDog]

I'll jump in and tell you they are worth every penny. We're on the road now heading up to Mackinaw and towing our 7000 lb trailer/700 lb tongue weight.
When we're hooked up the spring perch is actually contacting the Sumo's and when drivin there is no jarring when we hit a bump/road transfer/ bridge crack, ect.
The stock bump stop is hollow and compresses violently, but the Sumo's cushion the ride compressing as needed.
100% sold on them.

Apologies if you've mentioned it before, but do you have the blue or the black sumo springs? I ask because I have a similar weight TT (6,000lb loaded, approximately 700lb hitch weight) and am trying to determine if it's necessary to go with the black sumo springs over the blue.

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